[sage-devel] Re: Error installing visualization software on OS X

2012-03-10 Thread Dima Pasechnik
On Sunday, 11 March 2012 13:21:33 UTC+8, Dima Pasechnik wrote: > > In gmane.comp.mathematics.sage.support, you wrote: > > --Apple-Mail-6-908507845 > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > > > I want to install the visualization toolkit vtk into my sage on OS X > 10.6.8. I am running

[sage-devel] Re: Error installing visualization software on OS X

2012-03-10 Thread Dima Pasechnik
In gmane.comp.mathematics.sage.support, you wrote: > --Apple-Mail-6-908507845 > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > I want to install the visualization toolkit vtk into my sage on OS X 10.6.8. > I am running sage 4.8. > > Attempting to follow the instructions on > http://www.sagemath

Re: [sage-devel] python3

2012-03-10 Thread Fernando Perez
On Sat, Mar 10, 2012 at 7:56 AM, William Stein wrote: > > Interesting examples: > >    * Matplotlib doesn't support Python 3.x at all yet. The released version of mpl doesn't, but all the py3 branch has already been merged into git master. I haven't used it extensively, but in light testing with

Re: [sage-devel] Wolfram on Reddit

2012-03-10 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
On 03/10/12 06:27 PM, William Stein wrote: On Saturday, March 10, 2012, David Kirkby wrote: On 10 March 2012 13:53, rjf wrote: If you want a free open-source implementation of the language (without most of the mathematical commands) you can use the one I wrote in Lisp. Mock MMA.. It is n

Re: [sage-devel] Re: python3

2012-03-10 Thread Francois Bissey
On Sat, 10 Mar 2012 08:23:58 William Stein wrote: > On Sat, Mar 10, 2012 at 8:16 AM, Keshav Kini wrote: > > William Stein writes: > >> Hi, > >> > >> Have you ever wondered how difficult it might be to switch Sage from > >> Python 2.7 to Python 3.x? Some students in my course made a webpage > >>

Re: [sage-devel] Wolfram on Reddit

2012-03-10 Thread William Stein
On Saturday, March 10, 2012, David Kirkby wrote: > On 10 March 2012 13:53, rjf wrote: >> >> If you want a free open-source implementation of the language (without most >> of the mathematical commands) >> you can use the one I wrote in Lisp. Mock MMA.. >> >> It is not a simple language. One does

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Wolfram on Reddit

2012-03-10 Thread David Kirkby
On 10 March 2012 13:53, rjf wrote: > > If you want a free open-source implementation of the language (without most > of the mathematical commands) > you can use the one I wrote in Lisp.  Mock MMA.. > > It is not a simple language.  One does not often start with a complicated > language and add to

Re: [sage-devel] Making simplification safe

2012-03-10 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On 03/04/2012 07:12 PM, Michael Orlitzky wrote: simplify ... 2. We can replace the existing simplify with, simplify_factorial -> simplify_trig -> simplify_rational -> simplify_log which seem to be safe in practice. I like this, because it does actually try to simplif

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Sphinx extlinks

2012-03-10 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On 03/10/2012 11:01 AM, Keshav Kini wrote: Michael Orlitzky writes: Did we ever get :trac:, :ticket:, or something similar? Yup - http://trac.sagemath.org/sage_trac/ticket/12490 was merged in 5.0.beta4. Sweet, I tried it before asking but forgot the backticks. Looks good. -- To post to thi

Re: [sage-devel] Re: python3

2012-03-10 Thread William Stein
On Sat, Mar 10, 2012 at 8:16 AM, Keshav Kini wrote: > William Stein writes: >> Hi, >> >> Have you ever wondered how difficult it might be to switch Sage from >> Python 2.7 to Python 3.x?  Some students in my course made a webpage >> that summarizes the Python 3 support status of the Python packag

[sage-devel] Re: python3

2012-03-10 Thread Keshav Kini
William Stein writes: > Hi, > > Have you ever wondered how difficult it might be to switch Sage from > Python 2.7 to Python 3.x? Some students in my course made a webpage > that summarizes the Python 3 support status of the Python packages > that Sage depends on: > > http://wstein.org/edu/2

Re: [sage-devel] Re: python3

2012-03-10 Thread William Stein
On Sat, Mar 10, 2012 at 8:09 AM, Jason Grout wrote: > On 3/10/12 9:56 AM, William Stein wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> Have you ever wondered how difficult it might be to switch Sage from >> Python 2.7 to Python 3.x?  Some students in my course made a webpage >> that summarizes the Python 3 support status

[sage-devel] Re: python3

2012-03-10 Thread Jason Grout
On 3/10/12 9:56 AM, William Stein wrote: Hi, Have you ever wondered how difficult it might be to switch Sage from Python 2.7 to Python 3.x? Some students in my course made a webpage that summarizes the Python 3 support status of the Python packages that Sage depends on: http://wstein.or

[sage-devel] Re: Sphinx extlinks

2012-03-10 Thread Keshav Kini
Michael Orlitzky writes: > Did we ever get :trac:, :ticket:, or something similar? Yup - http://trac.sagemath.org/sage_trac/ticket/12490 was merged in 5.0.beta4. -Keshav Join us in #sagemath on irc.freenode.net ! -- To post to this group, send an email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To u

[sage-devel] Re: distutils versus setuptools for the Sage library

2012-03-10 Thread Keshav Kini
William Stein writes: > On Fri, Mar 9, 2012 at 11:17 PM, Keshav Kini wrote: >> Jeroen Demeyer writes: >>> On 2012-03-09 15:48, Keshav Kini wrote: I'm probably missing something obvious, but why do you need a repository in order to apply a patch to files? Doesn't `patch` work fine? >>>

[sage-devel] python3

2012-03-10 Thread William Stein
Hi, Have you ever wondered how difficult it might be to switch Sage from Python 2.7 to Python 3.x? Some students in my course made a webpage that summarizes the Python 3 support status of the Python packages that Sage depends on: http://wstein.org/edu/2012/1062/projects/final/miloshevich-n

[sage-devel] Sphinx extlinks

2012-03-10 Thread Michael Orlitzky
Did we ever get :trac:, :ticket:, or something similar? -- To post to this group, send an email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to sage-devel+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Making simplification safe

2012-03-10 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On 03/10/2012 08:32 AM, rjf wrote: You pretty much are missing the boat on what to do here. You seem to think you are constrained to return something that Maxima returns, and simultaneously think that you are building some kind of new mathematical "correct" system. There are two branches to the

Re: [sage-devel] distutils versus setuptools for the Sage library (was Re: Segregating development from production)

2012-03-10 Thread Julien Puydt
Le samedi 10 mars, William Stein a écrit: > I would like to make this change sometime in the next few months. If > anybody has any thoughts, feel free to share. You already had my mind with your explanations, but the "reduce the use of disk space by several hundred megabytes" totally stole my hea

[sage-devel] distutils versus setuptools for the Sage library (was Re: Segregating development from production)

2012-03-10 Thread William Stein
On Fri, Mar 9, 2012 at 11:17 PM, Keshav Kini wrote: > Jeroen Demeyer writes: >> On 2012-03-09 15:48, Keshav Kini wrote: >>> I'm probably missing something obvious, but why do you need a repository >>> in order to apply a patch to files? Doesn't `patch` work fine? >> >> We need the repository for

[sage-devel] Re: Wolfram on Reddit

2012-03-10 Thread rjf
If you want a free open-source implementation of the language (without most of the mathematical commands) you can use the one I wrote in Lisp. Mock MMA.. It is not a simple language. One does not often start with a complicated language and add to it and make it simpler. RJF On Monday, March

[sage-devel] Re: Making simplification safe

2012-03-10 Thread rjf
You pretty much are missing the boat on what to do here. You seem to think you are constrained to return something that Maxima returns, and simultaneously think that you are building some kind of new mathematical "correct" system. There are two branches to the square root. If you want to repres