Re: [sage-devel] Re: SAGE installation problem

2011-08-20 Thread Jan Groenewald
Hi Evans On 21 August 2011 05:11, leif wrote: > Looks like you have CPU throttling (a.k.a. power-save mode) enabled. > http://askubuntu.com/questions/30334/list-of-application-indicators/37997#37997 sudo apt-add-repository ppa:artfwo/ppa sudo aptitude update sudo aptitude -y install indicator

Re: [sage-devel] SAGE installation problem

2011-08-20 Thread Jan Groenewald
Hi On 21 August 2011 00:56, Andrew Fleckenstein wrote: > On Sat, 2011-08-20 at 22:41 +, Evans Doe Ocansey wrote: > > Dear all, > > I was installing SAGE on an acer laptop on ubuntu 11.04 platform and > > got the this error after the installation. To see the error, I click > > on the link to d

[sage-devel] Re: Another segfault with ATLAS and large matrices

2011-08-20 Thread leif
On 12 Aug., 02:48, leif wrote: > On 12 Aug., 02:15, leif wrote: > > > On 11 Aug., 23:21, Volker Braun wrote: > > > > I built a Sage binary distribution on redhawk with atlas-3.8.4.spkg and > > > SAGE_FAT_BINARY=yes. It is at: > > > >http://boxen.math.washington.edu/home/vbraun/Sage/sage-4.7.1.rc

[sage-devel] Re: How to trace what happens in imports in a pyx file

2011-08-20 Thread kcrisman
> > Is this the thread? > > >http://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel/browse_thread/thread/70eb8b... > > Much > older:http://trac.sagemath.org/sage_trac/attachment/ticket/4986/import-audi... I never saw this reply until Leif resurrected this thread. Is that patch still workable? That is, sho

[sage-devel] Re: SAGE installation problem

2011-08-20 Thread leif
On 21 Aug., 00:41, Evans Doe Ocansey wrote: > Dear all, > I was installing SAGE on an acer laptop on ubuntu 11.04 platform and > got the this error after the installation. To see the error, I click > on the link to download the install.log file. > > http://users.aims.ac.za/~evans/sage-bugs/install

[sage-devel] Re: How to trace what happens in imports in a pyx file

2011-08-20 Thread Volker Braun
No, I haven't. And I'm off to sleep now since I have to catch an early flight tomorrow ;-) -- To post to this group, send an email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to sage-devel+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http:

[sage-devel] Re: wiki.sagemath.org

2011-08-20 Thread leif
On 19 Aug., 23:18, Ivo Hedtke wrote: > Hi, > > I have problems with it. > > I click on "Login" and use my username and password from trac. That works. > > But if I click on a link, say "Settings", I am not logged in anymore: "You > must login to use this action: userprefs." Now works for me (lo

[sage-devel] Re: How to trace what happens in imports in a pyx file

2011-08-20 Thread leif
On 6 Aug., 18:32, William Stein wrote: > On Sat, Aug 6, 2011 at 2:21 AM, Volker Braun wrote: > > When I tried to remove the --disable-function-redefinition, I got lots of > > failures from the Sage library. This is not unexpected, as the release notes > > state. I tried to clean up some of the ci

Re: [sage-devel] SAGE installation problem

2011-08-20 Thread Andrew Fleckenstein
On Sat, 2011-08-20 at 22:41 +, Evans Doe Ocansey wrote: > Dear all, > I was installing SAGE on an acer laptop on ubuntu 11.04 platform and > got the this error after the installation. To see the error, I click > on the link to download the install.log file. > > http://users.aims.ac.za/~evans/s

[sage-devel] SAGE installation problem

2011-08-20 Thread Evans Doe Ocansey
Dear all, I was installing SAGE on an acer laptop on ubuntu 11.04 platform and got the this error after the installation. To see the error, I click on the link to download the install.log file. http://users.aims.ac.za/~evans/sage-bugs/install.log.tar.gz The following links gives some information

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Number fields without generators

2011-08-20 Thread John Cremona
Also Rob, the real name for the field is M._NumberField_relative__gens (or similar). John On Sat, Aug 20, 2011 at 8:32 PM, William Stein wrote: > On Sat, Aug 20, 2011 at 10:58 AM, Rob Beezer wrote: >> Thanks for the sleuthing and ideas, John.  Yes, I should have used a >> monic polynomial in my

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Vote for adding M4RIE as a new standard package

2011-08-20 Thread Alex Ghitza
> [X] yes include it as standard > [] yes but have it as optional SPKG first > [] I don't care > [] no don't include Best, Alex -- Alex Ghitza -- Lecturer in Mathematics -- The University of Melbourne -- http://aghitza.org -- To post to this group, send an email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com T

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Vote for adding M4RIE as a new standard package

2011-08-20 Thread David Joyner
On Sat, Aug 20, 2011 at 5:48 PM, Rob Beezer wrote: > >> So: >> [X] yes include it as standard agreed, +1 >> [] yes but have it as optional SPKG first >> [] I don't care >> [] no don't include > > -- > To post to this group, send an email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com > To unsubscribe from this

[sage-devel] Re: Vote for adding M4RIE as a new standard package

2011-08-20 Thread Rob Beezer
> So: > [X] yes include it as standard > [] yes but have it as optional SPKG first > [] I don't care > [] no don't include -- To post to this group, send an email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to sage-devel+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more opt

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Vote for adding M4RIE as a new standard package

2011-08-20 Thread Harald Schilly
+1 from me for standard package. H -- To post to this group, send an email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to sage-devel+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel URL: http://www.sage

[sage-devel] Re: Vote for adding M4RIE as a new standard package

2011-08-20 Thread Jason Grout
[X] yes include it as standard [ ] yes but have it as optional SPKG first [ ] I don't care [ ] no don't include I agree in principle, though I haven't reviewed any of the spkg. Jason -- To post to this group, send an email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Vote for adding M4RIE as a new standard package

2011-08-20 Thread Martin Albrecht
One more thing: let's just have a formal vote now and not bent the rules. If there's sufficient interest in this then it will survive an additional vote. Here's the description again: M4RIE is a library for dense linear algebra over GF(2^e). It is heavily based on M4RI and is written by me. It

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Vote for adding M4RIE as a new standard package

2011-08-20 Thread Martin Albrecht
On Saturday 20 August 2011, Simon King wrote: > Hi William, hi Martin, > > On 20 Aug., 21:56, William Stein wrote: > > My impression is that this is *not* a totally new spkg, but simply > > some additional code of a similar nature being included in an existing > > spkg.If so, no formal vote i

[sage-devel] Re: Vote for adding M4RIE as a new standard package

2011-08-20 Thread Simon King
Hi William, hi Martin, On 20 Aug., 21:56, William Stein wrote: > My impression is that this is *not* a totally new spkg, but simply > some additional code of a similar nature being included in an existing > spkg.    If so, no formal vote is required for this, just positive > review of the ticket

Re: [sage-devel] twisted.web2 is gone from twisted 11.0? can we still upgrade

2011-08-20 Thread William Stein
Hi, In case there is confusion, my understanding is that the *flask* version of the notebook doesn't use twisted web 2 at all. The whole point of the flask rewrite was to get rid of the dependence on twisted. However, so that we could run the flask notebook without having to setup Apache as dep

Re: [sage-devel] twisted.web2 is gone from twisted 11.0? can we still upgrade

2011-08-20 Thread Francois Bissey
On Sat, 20 Aug 2011 06:48:02 Dima Pasechnik wrote: > A couple of days ago we had a hard to explain crash of sagenb (flask) > webapp when it was hammered by 70 undergrads simultaneously during our lab. > We don't rule out that it could be a twisted bug. Twisted has meanwhile > advanced to version 1

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Vote for adding M4RIE as a new standard package

2011-08-20 Thread William Stein
On Sat, Aug 20, 2011 at 10:55 AM, Martin Albrecht wrote: >> And I hope you don't mind that I asked here: I thought that the wish >> to add it as a standard package was implicit in your opening the >> ticket. > > I don't understand the question. Yep, I wanted it to become standard when I > opened i

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Number fields without generators

2011-08-20 Thread William Stein
On Sat, Aug 20, 2011 at 10:58 AM, Rob Beezer wrote: > Thanks for the sleuthing and ideas, John.  Yes, I should have used a > monic polynomial in my example since the original problem I have is > with factors of a characteristic polynomial (and get similar > behavior). > > I also get > > sage: M._g

Re: [sage-devel] Re: MATLAB: viable alternative...?

2011-08-20 Thread William Stein
On Sat, Aug 20, 2011 at 11:31 AM, Rob Beezer wrote: > I find the preparser perilous.  It does some great things, such as the > "F. =" syntax.  But every addition seems to come with a high cost. > The *.sage/*.py dichotomy is confusing for new folks who want to write > scripts immediately.  And the

[sage-devel] Re: MATLAB: viable alternative...?

2011-08-20 Thread Rob Beezer
I find the preparser perilous. It does some great things, such as the "F. =" syntax. But every addition seems to come with a high cost. The *.sage/*.py dichotomy is confusing for new folks who want to write scripts immediately. And then there is the whole Integer() quagmire. On the flip side, I

[sage-devel] Re: MATLAB: viable alternative...?

2011-08-20 Thread Rob Beezer
On Aug 20, 7:11 am, Chris Godsil wrote: > And if P is a graph then P.am().charpoly() > works but P.charpoly() does not > (but both A.characteristic_polynomial() and > P.characteristic_polynomial() do). Patch to enable P.charpoly() ready for review at: http://trac.sagemath.org/sage_trac/ticket/1

[sage-devel] Re: Number fields without generators

2011-08-20 Thread Rob Beezer
Thanks for the sleuthing and ideas, John. Yes, I should have used a monic polynomial in my example since the original problem I have is with factors of a characteristic polynomial (and get similar behavior). I also get sage: M._gens is None True The eigenspace code (and probably eigenvalues, to

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Vote for adding M4RIE as a new standard package

2011-08-20 Thread Martin Albrecht
> And I hope you don't mind that I asked here: I thought that the wish > to add it as a standard package was implicit in your opening the > ticket. I don't understand the question. Yep, I wanted it to become standard when I opened it and I still would like that to happen. Cheers, Martin -- nam

[sage-devel] Re: Vote for adding M4RIE as a new standard package

2011-08-20 Thread Simon King
Hi Martin, On 20 Aug., 19:36, Martin Albrecht wrote: > we did have some sort of vote before > > http://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel/browse_thread/thread/1794b8985d788004/ > > which left me with the impression that it was accepted. I was not aware of that thread (I think you didn't mention

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Vote for adding M4RIE as a new standard package

2011-08-20 Thread Martin Albrecht
> IIRC, adding a standard spkg also requires someone in charge of its > maintenance for at least two years; maybe ask Martin...? ;-) This is new to me but it makes sense. Of course, I will look after maintaining this library's SPKG. Cheers, Martin -- name: Martin Albrecht _pgp: http://pgp.mit.e

Re: [sage-devel] Vote for adding M4RIE as a new standard package

2011-08-20 Thread Martin Albrecht
On Saturday 20 August 2011, Simon King wrote: > Hi! > > Martin Albrecht had opened #9562 and proposed to use M4RIE as default > for matrices over GF(2^e). If I understand correctly, the package > builds fine on all supported platforms (including Cygwin). > > The ticket is almost getting a positiv

Re: [sage-devel] Number fields without generators

2011-08-20 Thread John Cremona
On Sat, Aug 20, 2011 at 5:36 AM, Rob Beezer wrote: > I'm trying to compute some eigenspaces for matrices over number > fields, mostly because I can, in order to build some doctests. > Eigenspace routine uses the root_field() method on an irreducible > factor of a characteristic polynomial to creat

[sage-devel] Re: Vote for adding M4RIE as a new standard package

2011-08-20 Thread leif
On 20 Aug., 16:34, Simon King wrote: > Martin Albrecht had opened #9562 and proposed to use M4RIE as default > for matrices over GF(2^e). If I understand correctly, the package > builds fine on all supported platforms (including Cygwin). > > The ticket is almost getting a positive review from me,

[sage-devel] Re: Vote for adding M4RIE as a new standard package

2011-08-20 Thread Dima Pasechnik
I am all for it, but shouldn't it become an optional package first? Dima -- To post to this group, send an email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to sage-devel+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.c

[sage-devel] Re: Vote for adding M4RIE as a new standard package

2011-08-20 Thread Simon King
PS: I forgot to ask another question. Provided that we decide to make it a standard package: Should the new module for matrices over GF(2^e) be included in the reference manual? Without any exception, all methods are either cdef resp. underscore (hence, will not be in the reference manual anywa

[sage-devel] Re: MATLAB: viable alternative...?

2011-08-20 Thread Jason Grout
On 8/20/11 10:07 AM, Harald Schilly wrote: I completely agree with you! Also, just adding this parsing of matrix-strings doesn't change anything in terms of adoption-friendliness. It might be nice for playing around or solving some educational examples, but it's irrelevant for the average matlab

Re: [sage-devel] Re: MATLAB: viable alternative...?

2011-08-20 Thread Harald Schilly
On Sat, Aug 20, 2011 at 16:11, Chris Godsil wrote: > The point being that consistency is more important than the details of > syntax, > in part because it makes the syntax easier to learn and to remember. I completely agree with you! Also, just adding this parsing of matrix-strings doesn't change

[sage-devel] Vote for adding M4RIE as a new standard package

2011-08-20 Thread Simon King
Hi! Martin Albrecht had opened #9562 and proposed to use M4RIE as default for matrices over GF(2^e). If I understand correctly, the package builds fine on all supported platforms (including Cygwin). The ticket is almost getting a positive review from me, modulo some minor issues with documentatio

[sage-devel] Re: MATLAB: viable alternative...?

2011-08-20 Thread Chris Godsil
Simon You raise a number of very good points. In my case, my matrices are produced by some other routine or will be read in from a file. When I do type in small matrices, I've never found the syntax to be a problem. The sort of thing that has annoyed me is that matrix() and Matrix() both work, but

[sage-devel] twisted.web2 is gone from twisted 11.0? can we still upgrade

2011-08-20 Thread Dima Pasechnik
A couple of days ago we had a hard to explain crash of sagenb (flask) webapp when it was hammered by 70 undergrads simultaneously during our lab. We don't rule out that it could be a twisted bug. Twisted has meanwhile advanced to version 11.0.0, and no longer includes twisted.web2. The latter w