[sage-devel] Re: Qimporting a new patch version via trac does not work - why?

2011-08-16 Thread Simon King
Hi Leif, On 17 Aug., 02:14, leif wrote: > Well, you'd see that message if you were using some HTTP proxy as > well. > > So looks like Mercurial is caching it. Perhaps also try the '-f' > option, Thank you, I didn't know about a -f option. However, since wget isn't getting it either, I think it

[sage-devel] Re: MATLAB: viable alternative...?

2011-08-16 Thread Chris Godsil
I have not used matlab a lot, and not for some time, but I have colleagues in numerical optimization who use it heavily. I think there is essentially no chance that such people would move from matlab to sage. The only complaints I have heard are occasional mutterings about licensing. Matlab has ver

[sage-devel] Re: Qimporting a new patch version via trac does not work - why?

2011-08-16 Thread leif
On 16 Aug., 22:41, Simon King wrote: > Hi Volker, > > On 16 Aug., 22:22, Volker Braun wrote: > > > But really it sounds like you are behind a transparent > > http cache thats broken. You might want to ask your system admin... > > I just remember another detail that supports your conjecture: Usual

Re: [sage-devel] MATLAB: viable alternative...?

2011-08-16 Thread Jordi Gutiérrez Hermoso
I'm cross-posting this to the Octave maintainers' mailing list in case other maintainers also want to comment on it or correct anything I say here. On 15 August 2011 14:58, William Stein wrote: > If somebody walked up to *you* and asked: "Is Sage now a viable > alternative to MATLAB?" what would

[sage-devel] Re: Patch uploaded what's next?

2011-08-16 Thread kcrisman
> > If the owner forgot about the ticket (holidays and stuff), I think it > > is perfectly fine if the author him- or herself asks on one of the > > sage lists (probably sage-devel is a good choice, or a specialised > > list if that exists for the given topic). I think that "owner" is little more

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Qimporting a new patch version via trac does not work - why?

2011-08-16 Thread William Stein
On Tue, Aug 16, 2011 at 1:38 PM, Simon King wrote: > Hi Volker, > > On 16 Aug., 22:22, Volker Braun wrote: >> wget will by default not clobber the file with a newer version, and instead >> save it as m4rie_for_sage.patch.1 > > OK, but it was on a different directory, thus, no clobbering > intende

[sage-devel] Re: Qimporting a new patch version via trac does not work - why?

2011-08-16 Thread Simon King
Hi Volker, On 16 Aug., 22:22, Volker Braun wrote: > But really it sounds like you are behind a transparent > http cache thats broken. You might want to ask your system admin... I just remember another detail that supports your conjecture: Usually, when I import a patch from trac then a message s

[sage-devel] Re: Qimporting a new patch version via trac does not work - why?

2011-08-16 Thread Simon King
Hi Volker, On 16 Aug., 22:22, Volker Braun wrote: > wget will by default not clobber the file with a newer version, and instead > save it as m4rie_for_sage.patch.1   OK, but it was on a different directory, thus, no clobbering intended... > Which mercurial version are you using? The example ab

[sage-devel] Re: MATLAB: viable alternative...?

2011-08-16 Thread Simon King
Hi Kresimir, hi all, On 16 Aug., 21:49, Kresimir Kumericki wrote: > ... I use sage for fast prototyping of a new project, but > when stuff gets serious I export everything to python-numpy-vim because > jumping around huge worksheet is just too awkward and slows me down. My impression of the sage

[sage-devel] Re: Qimporting a new patch version via trac does not work - why?

2011-08-16 Thread Volker Braun
wget will by default not clobber the file with a newer version, and instead save it as m4rie_for_sage.patch.1 Things work for me: [vbraun@volker-laptop-two ~]$ cd /tmp [vbraun@volker-laptop-two tmp]$ mkdir test [vbraun@volker-laptop-two tmp]$ cd test [vbraun@volker-laptop-two test]$ hg init [

Re: [sage-devel] Qimporting a new patch version via trac does not work - why?

2011-08-16 Thread Ivo Hedtke
Hi Simon, Am 16.08.2011 um 22:01 schrieb Simon King: > Hence, the patch that got downloaded does not contain the string > "lmul". The same happens if you download it using wget. > > Now, visit > http://trac.sagemath.org/sage_trac/attachment/ticket/9562/m4rie_for_sage.patch > and you will find t

[sage-devel] Re: Qimporting a new patch version via trac does not work - why?

2011-08-16 Thread Simon King
Hi! Here is a concrete example, that should suffice to demonstrate that I did not mess up my own patch queue, and that it is really a problem of trac (or of wget): king@mpc622:~$ mkdir test king@mpc622:~$ cd test king@mpc622:~/test$ hg init king@mpc622:~/test$ hg qinit king@mpc622:~/test$ hg qimp

[sage-devel] Re: MATLAB: viable alternative...?

2011-08-16 Thread Kresimir Kumericki
On Tuesday, August 16, 2011 12:41:36 PM UTC+2, Pedro Cruz wrote: > Sagenotebook has the advantage of shareable over the net worksheets but > the editing 83 functions on it became hardwork because of those jumps on > screen > > This is exactly my feeling. In my case (I do both symbolical and num

[sage-devel] Re: MATLAB: viable alternative...?

2011-08-16 Thread Dima Pasechnik
Yes and no. I know a largish community, people working on interior point methods for nonlinear optimization, where it is rather hard to get around without Matlab. Partly this is due to relative easiness of creating Matlab interfaces to C and Fortran code, which makes experimenting easier Ma

[sage-devel] Re: downtime

2011-08-16 Thread Jason Grout
On 8/16/11 1:28 PM, William Stein wrote: Hi Sage Users, The entire sagemath cluster will be off from 4am until 10am PST on September 9, because the server room in the Univ of Washington mathematics department is having major electrical repair work done, and will have no power. This means of cou

[sage-devel] downtime

2011-08-16 Thread William Stein
Hi Sage Users, The entire sagemath cluster will be off from 4am until 10am PST on September 9, because the server room in the Univ of Washington mathematics department is having major electrical repair work done, and will have no power. This means of course that you can't just ssh to sage.math.wa

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Patch uploaded what's next?

2011-08-16 Thread William Stein
On Tue, Aug 16, 2011 at 9:31 AM, Simon King wrote: > Hi Rolf, > > first of all, I am sorry that I can not review it, myself, since > probability distributions are very far from my own field. > > More experienced developers may correct me, but I thought that one of > the responsibilities of the own

Re: [sage-devel] Re: R users conference

2011-08-16 Thread John Cremona
Thanks for the useful comments. I'll try to make it to the interfaces session tomorrow. John On Tue, Aug 16, 2011 at 1:16 PM, kcrisman wrote: > > > On Aug 16, 7:39 am, John Cremona wrote: >> I have just noticed that there's an international R users conference, >> with over 400 participants,  t

[sage-devel] Re: Patch uploaded what's next?

2011-08-16 Thread Simon King
Hi Rolf, first of all, I am sorry that I can not review it, myself, since probability distributions are very far from my own field. More experienced developers may correct me, but I thought that one of the responsibilities of the owner of a ticket is to approach potential reviewers, if it is appa

[sage-devel] Qimporting a new patch version via trac does not work - why?

2011-08-16 Thread Simon King
Hi! Today, I observed a problem that has never occurred to me before. I am currently working on reviewing #9562 and #11685. In both cases, the author replaced a patch with an updated version. What I did next was hg qpop hg qdelete `name of the patch` hg qimport http://trac.sagemath.org/sage_tr

[sage-devel] Re: Patch uploaded what's next?

2011-08-16 Thread Rolf
Sorry, my mistake. It's here http://trac.sagemath.org/sage_trac/ticket/11572 I even added some notebooks to test the new capabilities. http://www.sagenb.org/home/pub/2887 http://www.sagenb.org/home/pub/2886 Waiting for further suggestions. Best On 16 Aug., 16:37, Simon King wrote: > Hi Rolf, >

[sage-devel] Re: Patch uploaded what's next?

2011-08-16 Thread Simon King
Hi Rolf, On 16 Aug., 13:56, Rolf wrote: > Hello, > some weeks ago I uploaded a patch adding new probability > distributions. I even made the recommended changes immediatly. Nothing > happend ever since. Did I miss something? Where did you upload it? I.e., what trac ticket is it? Best regards, S

[sage-devel] Re: MATLAB: viable alternative...?

2011-08-16 Thread Jason Grout
On 8/16/11 2:44 AM, Rob Beezer wrote: I have to be careful, because I would not claim to be a numerical linear algebraist, so I am willing to be corrected - but I think an LU decomposition would be the first choice for an alternative to rref. It is basically what we used to call Gaussian elimina

[sage-devel] Re: MATLAB: viable alternative...?

2011-08-16 Thread Jason Grout
On 8/16/11 1:38 AM, William Stein wrote: On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 3:30 PM, Rob Beezer wrote: On Aug 15, 12:58 pm, William Stein wrote: If somebody walked up to *you* and asked: "Is Sage now a viable alternative to MATLAB?" what would you say? Good question. If you consider "matrix algebra"

[sage-devel] Re: R users conference

2011-08-16 Thread kcrisman
On Aug 16, 7:39 am, John Cremona wrote: > I have just noticed that there's an international R users conference, > with over 400 participants,  taking place right now in my building > (which houses both Mathematics and Statistics departments).   > Seehttp://www.warwick.ac.uk/statsdept/useR-2011/

[sage-devel] Patch uploaded what's next?

2011-08-16 Thread Rolf
Hello, some weeks ago I uploaded a patch adding new probability distributions. I even made the recommended changes immediatly. Nothing happend ever since. Did I miss something? -- To post to this group, send an email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to

[sage-devel] R users conference

2011-08-16 Thread John Cremona
I have just noticed that there's an international R users conference, with over 400 participants, taking place right now in my building (which houses both Mathematics and Statistics departments). See http://www.warwick.ac.uk/statsdept/useR-2011/ Any suggestions? Any readers of this list at the

[sage-devel] Re: MATLAB: viable alternative...?

2011-08-16 Thread Pedro Cruz
Dear Sage project leader, My experience is about Sage 4.6.2: For numerical computations I have quieted of Sage/Sagenotebook and use only scipy/numpy directly using vim and shell. Sagenotebook has the advantage of shareable over the net worksheets but the editing 83 functions on it became har

Re: [sage-devel] Trac milestone bumping

2011-08-16 Thread Minh Nguyen
Hi Jeroen, On Tue, Aug 16, 2011 at 7:41 PM, Jeroen Demeyer wrote: > I have "completed" milestone sage-4.7.1 on Trac but now all existing > tickets still refer to sage-4.7.1, this should be changed to sage-4.7.2. I just bumped all (or at least I think I have done so) tickets to milestone 4.7.2. P

[sage-devel] Trac milestone bumping

2011-08-16 Thread Jeroen Demeyer
I have "completed" milestone sage-4.7.1 on Trac but now all existing tickets still refer to sage-4.7.1, this should be changed to sage-4.7.2. -- To post to this group, send an email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to sage-devel+unsubscr...@googlegroup

Re: [sage-devel] Re: MATLAB: viable alternative...?

2011-08-16 Thread daly
MIT's online linear algebra course with Gilbert Strang mentions rref as one of the very first functions in Matlab. On Tue, 2011-08-16 at 00:44 -0700, Rob Beezer wrote: > On Aug 15, 11:38 pm, William Stein wrote: > > It sound like it wouldn't be difficult for you to name one single > > Matlab matr

[sage-devel] Re: MATLAB: viable alternative...?

2011-08-16 Thread Rob Beezer
On Aug 15, 11:38 pm, William Stein wrote: > It sound like it wouldn't be difficult for you to name one single > Matlab matrix function that engineers would actually use that > Numpy/Scipy doesn't have? I wonder why it's not in numpy yet. Sorry, I couldn't parse that. Did you mean "would" in