[sage-devel] Re: A bug of ? on commandline

2011-06-15 Thread Keshav Kini
+1 to Simon. I find ipython's behavior more reasonable than the notebook's. -Keshav Join us in #sagemath on irc.freenode.net ! -- To post to this group, send an email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to sage-devel+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Fo

[sage-devel] Re: A bug of ? on commandline

2011-06-15 Thread Simon King
Hi! On 16 Jun., 06:57, Kwankyu Lee wrote: > Hi, > > In Sage Notebook, entering shift-enter after typing > > E=EllipticCurve? > > shows correctly the doc Is that "correctly"? I would either expect to get an error, or alternatively that the doc string is assigned to E. Cheers, Simon -- To post

[sage-devel] Re: A bug of ? on commandline

2011-06-15 Thread Kwankyu Lee
I now see that this is IPython' fault. -- To post to this group, send an email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to sage-devel+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel URL: http://www.

Re: [sage-devel] Is Sage better because of the notebook?

2011-06-15 Thread Dan Drake
On Wed, 15 Jun 2011 at 03:09PM -0600, Ceigh Boone wrote: > Assuming that you always have your browser running, it > is a good idea that your math software runs inside it also, instead of > hogging resources of it own. Is this true for trivial reasons? Do you have > any insights? I would say one tr

[sage-devel] Re: Is Sage better because of the notebook?

2011-06-15 Thread john_perry_usm
Hi On Jun 15, 5:09 pm, Ceigh Boone wrote: > Assuming that you always have your browser running, it > is a good idea that your math software runs inside it also, instead of > hogging resources of it own. Is this true for trivial reasons? Do you have > any insights? (1) It is nice to be able to ta

[sage-devel] A bug of ? on commandline

2011-06-15 Thread Kwankyu Lee
Hi, In Sage Notebook, entering shift-enter after typing E=EllipticCurve? shows correctly the doc, but on commandline, we get sage: E=EllipticCurve? Object `E=EllipticCurve` not found. This different behavior seems a bug. I am using Sage 4.7. -- To post to this group, send an email to sage-d

Re: [sage-devel] Is Sage better because of the notebook?

2011-06-15 Thread v_2e
Hello! On Wed, 15 Jun 2011 15:09:55 -0600 Ceigh Boone wrote: > Hi all, > Just wanted to check some facts. I'm giving a small talk about Sage, > and I'm planning to say (just because it seems to me) that using the > sage notebook is really big advantage compared to other programs that > have h

[sage-devel] Re: sage-make_devel_packages

2011-06-15 Thread Keshav Kini
This is now trac #11492. -Keshav Join us in #sagemath on irc.freenode.net ! -- To post to this group, send an email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to sage-devel+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.g

Re: [sage-devel] Is Sage better because of the notebook?

2011-06-15 Thread Jeroen Demeyer
Also keep in mind that the Sage notebook can be run remotely without any extra effort, I think this is a big advantage. Jeroen. -- To post to this group, send an email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to sage-devel+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For mor

Re: [sage-devel] Is Sage better because of the notebook?

2011-06-15 Thread Mike Hansen
On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 2:09 PM, Ceigh Boone wrote: > Assuming that you always have your browser running, it > is a good idea that your math software runs inside it also, instead of > hogging resources of it own. Is this true for trivial reasons? Do you have > any insights? All of the memory and

[sage-devel] Is Sage better because of the notebook?

2011-06-15 Thread Ceigh Boone
Hi all, Just wanted to check some facts. I'm giving a small talk about Sage, and I'm planning to say (just because it seems to me) that using the sage notebook is really big advantage compared to other programs that have heavier graphical interfaces. Assuming that you always have your browser runn

[sage-devel] Re: A tutorial worksheet on coercion and categories

2011-06-15 Thread Simon King
Hi William, On 15 Jun., 21:24, William Stein wrote: > I have updated sagenb.org to sage-4.7.  I intend to keep sagenb more > up to date these days... > > I may have broken something though, > sincehttp://www.sagenb.org/home/pub/2813is empty. It was I who broke it: I stopped publishing it after

Re: [sage-devel] A tutorial worksheet on coercion and categories

2011-06-15 Thread William Stein
On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 12:19 PM, Simon King wrote: > Hi!, > > At http://www.sagenb.org/home/pub/2813, I have published a worksheet > that aims at explaining how one can implement a new parent and take > advantage of both the category framework and the coercion model > (including construction func

[sage-devel] Re: Index of functions and procedures on the documentation

2011-06-15 Thread Simon King
Hi Marco, On 15 Jun., 17:52, mmarco wrote: > ... > Yes, that was exactly what i had in mind. A list of all the methods > (and also functions), sorted by the name of the method, and links to > the help of the method in question. ... and as Minh pointed out, that is exactly what the existing index

[sage-devel] Re: Index of functions and procedures on the documentation

2011-06-15 Thread mmarco
> The reference manual should have an index. Go to this page [1] and > click on the link "index" in the upper right corner of your web > browser. Apart from that, no other document in the standard > documentation [2] have indices as exhaustive as the reference manual. > If you want index entries f

[sage-devel] Re: Index of functions and procedures on the documentation

2011-06-15 Thread Simon King
Hi Minh, On 15 Jun., 15:37, Minh Nguyen wrote: > The reference manual should have an index. Go to this page [1] and > click on the link "index" in the upper right corner of your web > browser. I have not been aware of it. It is in a format similar to what I have suggested in my previous post. Bu

[sage-devel] Re: Index of functions and procedures on the documentation

2011-06-15 Thread Simon King
Hi Marco, On 15 Jun., 15:05, mmarco wrote: > Talking with some  coleague he told be that he thought that sage > documentation was very bad. The reason he presented was that it was > very difficult to find if some function or procedure was implemented. If I am not mistaken, there are not so many

Re: [sage-devel] Index of functions and procedures on the documentation

2011-06-15 Thread Minh Nguyen
Hi, On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 11:05 PM, mmarco wrote: > Talking with some coleague he told be that he thought that sage > documentation was very bad. The reason he presented was that it was > very difficult to find if some function or procedure was implemented. What about searching the reference

[sage-devel] Re: How to delete files on trac?

2011-06-15 Thread Christian Stump
> I could try to install the SelfDelete plugin but there is a ticket on plugin > trac page that is about adding support for trac 0.11 so there is a high > propability it will not work. (although on the ticket they don't mention what > breaks, or even if something breaks). > > If people think it'

[sage-devel] Index of functions and procedures on the documentation

2011-06-15 Thread mmarco
Talking with some coleague he told be that he thought that sage documentation was very bad. The reason he presented was that it was very difficult to find if some function or procedure was implemented. So i have thought that it might be a good idea to have an index of functions and procedures. Ju

[sage-devel] Re: How to delete files on trac?

2011-06-15 Thread Maarten Derickx
I could try to install the SelfDelete plugin but there is a ticket on plugin trac page that is about adding support for trac 0.11 so there is a high propability it will not work. (although on the ticket they don't mention what breaks, or even if something breaks). If people think it's a good id

[sage-devel] Re: A tutorial worksheet on coercion and categories

2011-06-15 Thread Simon King
Hi! On 13 Jun., 18:40, Simon King wrote: > BTW, since the flask notebook seems more stable than sagenb, I moved > the worksheet (after some slight modifications) > tohttp://flask.sagenb.org/home/pub/82/ Meanwhile I opened trac ticket #11490 about adding thematic tutorials on coercion and catego

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Translation

2011-06-15 Thread Andrey Novoseltsev
> > Yes, I agree that some detailed books on Sage in Russian can > substitute the Russian help. Maybe having some consistent books even > better. In such case, what is the actual situation with the books on > Sage? > > Regards, >Vladimir > I think that there is some nice book on Sage in Frenc

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Translation

2011-06-15 Thread v_2e
Hello! On Tue, 14 Jun 2011 23:49:10 -0700 (PDT) Andrey Novoseltsev wrote: > > Usefulness of this work is somewhat questionable as we will not be > able to maintain these translations and it may lead to discrepancies > between detailed documentation and actual commands. In addition, it > becom

[sage-devel] Re: Translation

2011-06-15 Thread Andrey Novoseltsev
Hi Vladimir! Sorry for not adding your full name, I have filled the ticket with information that I could gather from the comments. On Jun 14, 10:03 am, v...@ukr.net wrote: > On Tue, 14 Jun 2011 07:58:10 -0700 (PDT) > > kcrisman wrote: > > > On Jun 14, 9:14 am, v...@ukr.net wrote: > > > Hello! >