[sage-devel] Re: graphviz / dot2tex support

2010-08-24 Thread Nathann Cohen
+1 to optional ! Nathann On Aug 25, 2:18 am, "Nicolas M. Thiery" wrote: > On Sun, Aug 22, 2010 at 11:57:55AM -0700, Dima Pasechnik wrote: > > > Speaking of which: I never got feedback on my request to put this spkg > > > in optional/experimental: > > > >http://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel/

Re: [sage-devel] Failed to build Atlas in Sage 4.5.2 on Xenon processor.

2010-08-24 Thread William Stein
On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 1:38 PM, William Stein wrote: > On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 8:25 PM, Jonathan Hanke wrote: >> Hi, >> >> I'm trying to build sage 4.5.2 on a Sun Fire X4450 server (Intel Xenon >> processors) running Redhat linux (Enterprise edition), and get an error when >> building Atlas in t

Re: [sage-devel] Should fast test suites be run from spkg-install?

2010-08-24 Thread David Kirkby
On 24 August 2010 23:48, Robert Bradshaw wrote: >> You could make it more complex if you wanted, but then you would need >> to consider exceptions like ATLAS, for the reasons I stated. > > I wasn't proposing a rule, just a rule of thumb. And I did mean OR. If > a package took 5 seconds to build,

Re: [sage-devel] Should fast test suites be run from spkg-install?

2010-08-24 Thread Robert Bradshaw
On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 7:47 AM, David Kirkby wrote: > On 24 August 2010 15:39, David Kirkby wrote: > >> Robert, >> >> Are you suggesting (1) or (2) below? >> >> 1) Run if tests take < 30 seconds AND <25% of the build time. >> >> 2) If tests take <30 seconds OR < 25% of the build time. >> >> I ca

Re: [sage-devel] Python editor

2010-08-24 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
On 08/24/10 11:46 PM, William Stein wrote: On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 3:17 PM, Dr. David Kirkby wrote: On 08/24/10 07:55 PM, William Stein wrote: On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 11:49 AM, Justin C. Walkerwrote: Dave, I'm not a python guru, but I did not have a clue how to use this source code.

Re: [sage-devel] Python editor

2010-08-24 Thread William Stein
On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 3:17 PM, Dr. David Kirkby wrote: > On 08/24/10 07:55 PM, William Stein wrote: >> >> On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 11:49 AM, Justin C. Walker  wrote: >>> >>> Dave, > I'm not a python guru, but I did not have a clue how to use this source code. There's no readme file. No

Re: [sage-devel] Python editor

2010-08-24 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
On 08/24/10 07:55 PM, William Stein wrote: On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 11:49 AM, Justin C. Walker wrote: Dave, I'm not a python guru, but I did not have a clue how to use this source code. There's no readme file. No setup.py. No docs directory. IEP is a binary, not a python script. See the wi

Re: [sage-devel] Failed to build Atlas in Sage 4.5.2 on Xenon processor.

2010-08-24 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
On 08/24/10 09:38 PM, William Stein wrote: On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 8:25 PM, Jonathan Hanke wrote: Hi, I'm trying to build sage 4.5.2 on a Sun Fire X4450 server (Intel Xenon processors) running Redhat linux (Enterprise edition), and get an error when building Atlas in the make script. Any comm

[sage-devel] update on http://ask.sagemath.org

2010-08-24 Thread William Stein
Hi, This is a quick update on the new http://ask.sagemath.org site. 1. There are now 77 registered users. 2. There have been 55 questions asked (with over 90 tags), and all were answered (one is technically unanswered). The top tag categories are "Cython" and "Notebook". 3. The perso

Re: [sage-devel] Failed to build Atlas in Sage 4.5.2 on Xenon processor.

2010-08-24 Thread William Stein
On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 8:25 PM, Jonathan Hanke wrote: > Hi, > > I'm trying to build sage 4.5.2 on a Sun Fire X4450 server (Intel Xenon > processors) running Redhat linux (Enterprise edition), and get an error when > building Atlas in the make script.  Any comments are appreciated.  Thanks, I jus

Re: [sage-devel] Python editor

2010-08-24 Thread Justin C. Walker
On Aug 24, 2010, at 11:55 , William Stein wrote: On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 11:49 AM, Justin C. Walker wrote: Dave, On Aug 24, 2010, at 10:55 , David Kirkby wrote: [snip] I'm not a python guru, but I did not have a clue how to use this source code. There's no readme file. No setup.py. No do

[sage-devel] #9400 needs review (number fields and PARI)

2010-08-24 Thread Jeroen Demeyer
Hello, It looks that #9343 is more or stable now (for a while now, the only issues have to do with porting). I think it's time for somebody to look at #9400. It's a patch written by William with additions by me. It changes quite of bit of NumberField code and also cleans up various functions in

[sage-devel] Re: Python editor

2010-08-24 Thread Rob Beezer
>From IRC earlier today: 05:37] yet another promising python ide: http://code.google.com/p/iep/ [05:37] we should really look into writing tutorials how to set them up for python [05:37] (install into sage environemtn ...) [07:52] schilly: what dependencies does it have? [07:52] schilly: say,

[sage-devel] Re: Python editor

2010-08-24 Thread Jason Grout
On 8/24/10 1:55 PM, William Stein wrote: On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 11:49 AM, Justin C. Walker wrote: Dave, On Aug 24, 2010, at 10:55 , David Kirkby wrote: On 24 August 2010 18:38, Jason Grout wrote: This was posted to the scipy-user list today, and it seems like it would be interesting to t

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Sage as a library

2010-08-24 Thread Burcin Erocal
On Tue, 24 Aug 2010 09:31:35 -0700 Mike Hansen wrote: > On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 9:22 AM, Jason Grout > wrote: > > It's possible to do python stuff from within a C program.  I wonder > > if it would be sufficient to just import Sage within that python > > context. > > Yep. At Sage Days 14, Dan

Re: [sage-devel] Python editor

2010-08-24 Thread William Stein
On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 11:49 AM, Justin C. Walker wrote: > Dave, > > On Aug 24, 2010, at 10:55 , David Kirkby wrote: > >> On 24 August 2010 18:38, Jason Grout wrote: >>> >>> This was posted to the scipy-user list today, and it seems like it would >>> be >>> interesting to the crowd here.  I don'

Re: [sage-devel] Python editor

2010-08-24 Thread Justin C. Walker
Dave, On Aug 24, 2010, at 10:55 , David Kirkby wrote: On 24 August 2010 18:38, Jason Grout wrote: This was posted to the scipy-user list today, and it seems like it would be interesting to the crowd here. I don't know how it compares to Spyder, for example. -Jason I am pleased to

Re: [sage-devel] Re: graphviz / dot2tex support

2010-08-24 Thread Nicolas M. Thiery
On Sun, Aug 22, 2010 at 11:57:55AM -0700, Dima Pasechnik wrote: > > Speaking of which: I never got feedback on my request to put this spkg > > in optional/experimental: > > > > http://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel/browse_thread/thread/ea1dca... > > your wish to have it as standard most probab

Re: [sage-devel] Maxima update

2010-08-24 Thread David Kirkby
On 23 August 2010 12:39, kcrisman wrote: > FYI - relevant to several tickets. > > + > > Please distribute this message as you see fit. > > Announcing Maxima 5.22 If updating, we need to be careful about ECL. I've seen some recent posts on ECL+ Maxima lists about problems between the two. I th

Re: [sage-devel] Python editor

2010-08-24 Thread David Kirkby
On 24 August 2010 18:38, Jason Grout wrote: > This was posted to the scipy-user list today, and it seems like it would be > interesting to the crowd here.  I don't know how it compares to Spyder, for > example. > > -Jason > > > I am pleased to announce IEP, the interactive Editor for Python.

[sage-devel] Python editor

2010-08-24 Thread Jason Grout
This was posted to the scipy-user list today, and it seems like it would be interesting to the crowd here. I don't know how it compares to Spyder, for example. -Jason I am pleased to announce IEP, the interactive Editor for Python. website: http://code.google.com/p/iep/ downloads: http:

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Sage as a library

2010-08-24 Thread Mike Hansen
On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 9:22 AM, Jason Grout wrote: > It's possible to do python stuff from within a C program.  I wonder if it > would be sufficient to just import Sage within that python context. Yep. At Sage Days 14, Dan Grayson did basically this for Macaulay2 so that they could call Sage co

[sage-devel] Re: Sage as a library

2010-08-24 Thread Jason Grout
On 8/24/10 8:23 AM, David Kirkby wrote: One thing I *believe* Sage lacks, compared to Mathematica and MATLAB (I;m not sure about Maple or MAGMA), is the ability to write a C program and make use of Sage, by linking in a librar If I want, I can create a C program, then using the Mathlink protoco

[sage-devel] Re: two polynomial questions

2010-08-24 Thread kcrisman
On Aug 24, 10:51 am, Jason Grout wrote: > On 08/24/2010 09:03 AM, kcrisman wrote: >  > Dear sage-devel, >  > >  > I have two things I just want confirmation of before I file tickets - >  > such as an alternate way/workaround to do these things which I have >  > missed.  Thanks for any replies. >

[sage-devel] Re: two polynomial questions

2010-08-24 Thread Jason Grout
On 08/24/2010 09:03 AM, kcrisman wrote: > Dear sage-devel, > > I have two things I just want confirmation of before I file tickets - > such as an alternate way/workaround to do these things which I have > missed. Thanks for any replies. > > - kcrisman > > 1. There is no way to get a symbolic inte

Re: [sage-devel] Should fast test suites be run from spkg-install?

2010-08-24 Thread David Kirkby
On 24 August 2010 15:39, David Kirkby wrote: > Robert, > > Are you suggesting (1) or (2) below? > > 1) Run if tests take < 30 seconds AND <25% of the build time. > > 2) If tests take <30 seconds OR < 25% of the build time. > > I can see a problem with the latter. I mean I can see a problem with

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Should fast test suites be run from spkg-install?

2010-08-24 Thread David Kirkby
On 24 August 2010 10:02, Simon King wrote: > Hi all! > > On 23 Aug., 18:26, Robert Bradshaw > wrote: >> +1 to running all short test suites on build if they're small enough >> (e.g. less than 30 seconds, or, say, 25% of the build time). That is >> assuming they're expected to pass, unlike some (s

Re: [sage-devel] Should fast test suites be run from spkg-install?

2010-08-24 Thread David Kirkby
On 23 August 2010 17:26, Robert Bradshaw wrote: > +1 to running all short test suites on build if they're small enough > (e.g. less than 30 seconds, or, say, 25% of the build time). That is > assuming they're expected to pass, unlike some (scipy?). > > - Robert Robert, Are you suggesting (1) or

[sage-devel] Re: two polynomial questions

2010-08-24 Thread kcrisman
On Aug 24, 10:03 am, kcrisman wrote: > Dear sage-devel, > > I have two things I just want confirmation of before I file tickets - > such as an alternate way/workaround to do these things which I have > missed.  Thanks for any replies. > > - kcrisman > > 1. There is no way to get a symbolic inter

[sage-devel] two polynomial questions

2010-08-24 Thread kcrisman
Dear sage-devel, I have two things I just want confirmation of before I file tickets - such as an alternate way/workaround to do these things which I have missed. Thanks for any replies. - kcrisman 1. There is no way to get a symbolic interpolated polynomial de novo without going through polyno

[sage-devel] Sage as a library

2010-08-24 Thread David Kirkby
One thing I *believe* Sage lacks, compared to Mathematica and MATLAB (I;m not sure about Maple or MAGMA), is the ability to write a C program and make use of Sage, by linking in a librar If I want, I can create a C program, then using the Mathlink protoco http://www.wolfram.com/solutions/mathlink

[sage-devel] sage-4.5.3.alpha2. All tests pass on OpenSolaris!! A new port soon?

2010-08-24 Thread David Kirkby
For the first time ever, Sage has built and pass all the long doctests on OpenSolaris! sage -t -long devel/sage/sage/coding/decoder.py [53.1 s] sage -t -long devel/sage/sage/schemes/elliptic_curves/ell_rational_field.py [338.4 s] ---

[sage-devel] Re: Sage returns complex solutions to equation with real solutions

2010-08-24 Thread kcrisman
> Maybe an alternative viewpoint  (perhaps taken by Axiom, and maybe > Sage) is > > (a) if you want to use a computer algebra system (especially one > accessed through Sage) effectively  then > (b) you should know something about "modern algebra", at least so as > to be conversant with the notions

[sage-devel] Random banter about Sage standards

2010-08-24 Thread kcrisman
I've put this on sage-devel where it belongs. On Aug 24, 5:14 am, "Dr. David Kirkby" wrote: > On 08/23/10 04:20 PM, kcrisman wrote: > > > Well, in general it seems to me that most Sage bugs come from things/ > > functionality that didn't exist before, and once they exist people > > want to start

Re: [sage-devel] Anyway able to check two lines of inline assembler?

2010-08-24 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
On 08/24/10 12:17 AM, Carl Witty wrote: On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 3:45 PM, Dr. David Kirkby wrote: I've created a patch for sympow, which the release manager has agreed to merge in 4.5.3 - in fact, he has kindly made it a blocker!! He is happy with it, but wants someone able to comment on the c

[sage-devel] Re: Should fast test suites be run from spkg-install?

2010-08-24 Thread Simon King
Hi all! On 23 Aug., 18:26, Robert Bradshaw wrote: > +1 to running all short test suites on build if they're small enough > (e.g. less than 30 seconds, or, say, 25% of the build time). That is > assuming they're expected to pass, unlike some (scipy?). Generally I am in favour of testing. However,

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Sage build and `pwd` craziness

2010-08-24 Thread John Cremona
It seems very fragile to me to reply on a particular syntax in the operating system's way of displaying a symbolic link to find out the name of the current branch. Why not store the branch's name in a file and read that? Then it would not matter whether it was a link or not. John On 23 August 2