[sage-devel] Re: GeoGebra GSoC

2010-04-04 Thread tkosan
Gokhan wrote: > I see many interesting ideas have been mentioned in my absence. > GeoGebra backed up @interact development being one of them. I have > spent some time looking through the source-codes of the Sage-notebook > and GeoGebra project trying to get a basic grip about each project. > Yes,

[sage-devel] Re: If using a computer to do your math homework is like copying

2010-04-04 Thread Harald Schilly
On Apr 4, 10:39 pm, rjf wrote: > tool The article and what you talk about it is too much general. Just look at the history to see what happened when new and better tools are developed. Also, I think it applies to wolfram alpha in the first place, which is not programmable and just a black box tha

[sage-devel] Re: Maxima & ECL 10.4.1

2010-04-04 Thread Robert Dodier
On 4/4/10, Juan Jose Garcia-Ripoll wrote: > ECL will introduce an incompatible change that will break building of > Maxima. Thanks for the patch. I've committed it to the 5.21 release branch. best Robert Dodier -- To post to this group, send an email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubsc

[sage-devel] Re: If using a computer to do your math homework is like copying

2010-04-04 Thread rjf
On Apr 4, 11:17 am, Tom Boothby wrote: > Out of curiosity: why did you post this to sage-devel, and not a Maxima list? > I posted to sage-devel because I thought there was something like sage- edu but wasn't sure of it or if I could post there. As it happens, there is one, and I can't post there

[sage-devel] Re: How to doc-test tab completion, revisited

2010-04-04 Thread Simon King
Dear Gonzalo, On 4 Apr., 21:30, Gonzalo Tornaria wrote: > If you can ssh into your office computer in some way, you should be > able to tunnel connections through it. > For instance, using putty on > windows:http://www.cs.uu.nl/technical/services/ssh/putty/puttyfw.html Thank you for the link! I

[sage-devel] Re: If using a computer to do your math homework is like copying

2010-04-04 Thread rjf
On Apr 4, 12:28 pm, David Joyner wrote: > > > Alec: (but that should be approved by moderators there :) > > David: Sorry, I did not.  I don't see what this has to do with Sage > development or (to mention the goal of the sage-edu list) with the > development of Sage packages useful for teachin

Re: [sage-devel] Re: How to doc-test tab completion, revisited

2010-04-04 Thread Gonzalo Tornaria
On Fri, Apr 2, 2010 at 12:31 PM, Simon King wrote: > Hi John! > > On 2 Apr., 17:10, John Cremona wrote: >> On your local machine running linux (which is the only thing I know >> about) I type >> >> ssh selmer -L 8123:localhost:8000 >> >> and I get the usual prompt on selmer *and* now in my browse

Re: [sage-devel] Re: If using a computer to do your math homework is like copying

2010-04-04 Thread David Joyner
On Sun, Apr 4, 2010 at 1:01 PM, Alec Mihailovs wrote: > On Apr 4, 11:22 am, rjf wrote: > >> (followup could be done at the MIT page, here, or Sage-flame, or is >> there a list for educational applications >> of Sage??) > > I forwarded that to > > http://groups.google.com/group/sage-edu > > (but t

Re: [sage-devel] If using a computer to do your math homework is like copying

2010-04-04 Thread Tom Boothby
Out of curiosity: why did you post this to sage-devel, and not a Maxima list? On Sun, Apr 4, 2010 at 8:22 AM, rjf wrote: > from someone else, then consider this article, which > suggests that students (at MIT, at least) learn significantly > less, in some sense, by copying their homework. > > htt

[sage-devel] Re: If using a computer to do your math homework is like copying

2010-04-04 Thread Alec Mihailovs
On Apr 4, 11:22 am, rjf wrote: > (followup could be done at the MIT page, here, or Sage-flame, or is > there a list for educational applications > of Sage??) I forwarded that to http://groups.google.com/group/sage-edu (but that should be approved by moderators there :) Alec Mihailovs -- To

[sage-devel] Re: If using a computer to do your math homework is like copying

2010-04-04 Thread pallab
Hi I do not know if it is the right place to talk about such issues, however will add my POV. Master a computer software which does algebra for you is an important part of the learning almost any branch of applied science. In near future it would probably be going to be even more useful than the

[sage-devel] If using a computer to do your math homework is like copying

2010-04-04 Thread rjf
from someone else, then consider this article, which suggests that students (at MIT, at least) learn significantly less, in some sense, by copying their homework. http://web.mit.edu/newsoffice/2010/homework-copying-0318.html While the details of the experimental setup may not match using Sage fo

[sage-devel] Maxima & ECL 10.4.1

2010-04-04 Thread Juan Jose Garcia-Ripoll
ECL will introduce an incompatible change that will break building of Maxima. The change is not gratuitous: it basically locks all functions in the core package COMMON-LISP preventing them from being redefined. This is mandated by the ANSI standard and it was just an unfortunate typo that made thi

[sage-devel] Re: Parents without __dict__

2010-04-04 Thread daveloeffler
Looks like boolean polynomial rings are an example -- apologies for spamming the list :-) On Apr 4, 12:01 pm, daveloeffler wrote: > I've just been taking a look at reviewing patch #8332, which is part > of a massive series of patches by David Roe that completely overhauls > finite rings and field

[sage-devel] Parents without __dict__

2010-04-04 Thread daveloeffler
I've just been taking a look at reviewing patch #8332, which is part of a massive series of patches by David Roe that completely overhauls finite rings and fields. It's failing doctests for an entirely silly reason: someone has added a doctest to sage/structure/parent.pyx to check that some helper

Re: [sage-devel] Re: build failure of 4.3.5 on OS X 10.6.3

2010-04-04 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
William Stein wrote: On Sat, Apr 3, 2010 at 12:22 AM, Dima Pasechnik wrote: On Apr 3, 12:31 am, mhampton wrote: I'll try downloading it a second time, although I don't think its corrupted because I copied that tar file to 3 other computers and all their installs went fine. I don't think I'v