[sage-devel] Re: Suggestion for a map showing where Sage is taught.

2009-11-21 Thread Nathann Cohen
+1 !!! On Nov 22, 5:49 am, mhampton wrote: > That would be nice, and interesting.  Soliciting at sage-edu will > surely generate some responses. > > -Marshall > > On Nov 21, 9:28 pm, Jason Grout wrote: > > > Dr. David Kirkby wrote: > > > There's a map here > > > >http://www.sagemath.org/developm

[sage-devel] Sage 4.3.alpha0 released!

2009-11-21 Thread Mike Hansen
Hello all, Sage 4.3.alpha0 is out! Sage 4.3 now contains much of the new categories code from the sage-combinat team! It's been in development for quite awhile, and it's great to finally get it in. There is one known failure in sage/interfaces/maxima.py caused by #7401. This issue will be fix

Re: [sage-devel] Re: How popular is Mathematica compared to Sage? 1.71:1 is one guess.

2009-11-21 Thread William Stein
On Sat, Nov 21, 2009 at 8:42 PM, rjf wrote: > As I've pointed out, > about 75% of them seem to involve Maxima. Not even close. However, probably 75% of the messages that you are able to understand involve Maxima. >  If you add to that the count of messages on > the Maxima mailing list, is Maxim

Re: [sage-devel] Re: How popular is Mathematica compared to Sage? 1.71:1 is one guess.

2009-11-21 Thread Robert Bradshaw
On Nov 21, 2009, at 8:42 PM, rjf wrote: > On Nov 19, 5:27 pm, William Stein wrote: > >> >> I think *everybody* should read that, so people understand precisely >> what sort of ego-maniac self-aggrandizing opponent the Sage project >> is >> up against. > > Mathematica is an opponent of Sage? Hu

[sage-devel] Re: the creeping library collision problem...

2009-11-21 Thread ghtdak
On Nov 21, 7:27 pm, Jason Grout wrote: > Nils Bruin wrote: > > On Nov 21, 4:42 pm, ghtdak wrote: > >> In particular, where I'm getting bitten hard is svn and git.  Neither > >> will run with sage's libgnutls. > > >> I "almost" had it beat by doing everything without the Sage > >> environment wh

[sage-devel] Re: Suggestion for a map showing where Sage is taught.

2009-11-21 Thread mhampton
That would be nice, and interesting. Soliciting at sage-edu will surely generate some responses. -Marshall On Nov 21, 9:28 pm, Jason Grout wrote: > Dr. David Kirkby wrote: > > There's a map here > > >http://www.sagemath.org/development-map.html > > > showing the location of Sage developers. > >

[sage-devel] Re: How popular is Mathematica compared to Sage? 1.71:1 is one guess.

2009-11-21 Thread rjf
On Nov 19, 5:27 pm, William Stein wrote: > > I think *everybody* should read that, so people understand precisely > what sort of ego-maniac self-aggrandizing opponent the Sage project is > up against. Mathematica is an opponent of Sage? Huh? Maybe you mean competition for Sage? WRI presuma

[sage-devel] Re: Suggestion for a map showing where Sage is taught.

2009-11-21 Thread Jason Grout
Dr. David Kirkby wrote: > There's a map here > > http://www.sagemath.org/development-map.html > > showing the location of Sage developers. > > A similar map showing universities/college where Sage is taught might be a > nice > feature. The developers seem to be clustered into certain geographic

[sage-devel] Re: the creeping library collision problem...

2009-11-21 Thread Jason Grout
Nils Bruin wrote: > On Nov 21, 4:42 pm, ghtdak wrote: >> In particular, where I'm getting bitten hard is svn and git. Neither >> will run with sage's libgnutls. >> >> I "almost" had it beat by doing everything without the Sage >> environment which uses general Ubuntu tools until it came to the >>

Re: [sage-devel] Re: the creeping library collision problem...

2009-11-21 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
ghtdak wrote: > In particular, where I'm getting bitten hard is svn and git. Neither > will run with sage's libgnutls. libgnutls seems to be a problematic package. It will not even build properly on HP-UX or OpenSolaris, though I can work around it on OpenSolaris. http://trac.sagemath.org/sag

[sage-devel] Two very simple trac tickets needing review.

2009-11-21 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
I've got two very simple trac tickets needing review. 1) One, allows the optional database_cremona_ellcurve to be installed on Solaris. Only a *single byte* has changed in spkg-install (removed the '-v' option to the 'cp' command). The -v option can also be written as '--verbose', and does

[sage-devel] Re: the creeping library collision problem...

2009-11-21 Thread Nils Bruin
On Nov 21, 4:42 pm, ghtdak wrote: > In particular, where I'm getting bitten hard is svn and git.  Neither > will run with sage's libgnutls. > > I "almost" had it beat by doing everything without the Sage > environment which uses general Ubuntu tools until it came to the > Enthought suite's "ets" c

[sage-devel] SAS

2009-11-21 Thread William Stein
Hi, There is an interesting article in the New York Times today about (1) how "fat" the stats software SAS company is, as a result of lack of fierce competition, (2) how R is starting to compete and make them sweat, and (3) how IBM recently bought SPSS and is hence making SAS sweat even more (part

[sage-devel] Suggestion for a map showing where Sage is taught.

2009-11-21 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
There's a map here http://www.sagemath.org/development-map.html showing the location of Sage developers. A similar map showing universities/college where Sage is taught might be a nice feature. The developers seem to be clustered into certain geographical areas - I guess the same might be for

[sage-devel] Re: the creeping library collision problem...

2009-11-21 Thread ghtdak
On Nov 19, 10:31 am, William Stein wrote: > On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 10:16 AM, Carlo Hamalainen > > wrote: > > On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 6:14 PM, William Stein wrote: > >> What happens if you type: > > >>  sage: !sage-native-execute evincehttp://wiki.sagemath.org/bug18 > > > Evince pops up with n

[sage-devel] Re: Sage Survey 2009

2009-11-21 Thread rjf
Fake submissions?? Huh? By people who want to sell you fake Rolex watches? My objection is that the obvious question -- do you "know" maxima is not asked. (Similarly Axiom, I guess). But see sci.math.symbolic for further discussion of statistics. On Nov 20, 3:07 am, Harald Schilly wrote: > O

Re: [sage-devel] Is there a reason for gnutls being so out of date ?

2009-11-21 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
William Stein wrote: > On Sat, Nov 21, 2009 at 10:57 AM, Dr. David Kirkby > wrote: >> I just made a small fix to readline's spkg-install, so readline 6.0 builds >> properly on HP-UX. With that fixed, the first point of failure when building >> Sage 4.2.1 on HP-UX is with gnutls-2.2.1. Although HP-

[sage-devel] missing \left and \right when translating product to latex

2009-11-21 Thread ma...@mendelu.cz
Dear developers The following LaTeX exporession is not nice sage: latex(x*(1/(x^2)+sqrt(x^7))) {(\sqrt{x^{7}} + \frac{1}{x^{2}})} x far better would be sage: latex(x*(1/(x^2)+sqrt(x^7))) {\left(\sqrt{x^{7}} + \frac{1}{x^{2}}\right)} x Is the following code from pynac from file mul.cpp respo

[sage-devel] Why does sage -upgrade not update banner version ??

2009-11-21 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
I'm not sure if there is a reason for this, or perhaps it only happens on SPARC (unlikly), but I upgraded Sage from 4.2. to 4.2.1 and get: drkir...@kestrel:~/sage-4.2$ ./sage -- | Sage Version 4.2, Release Date: 2009-10-24

Re: [sage-devel] Is there a reason for gnutls being so out of date ?

2009-11-21 Thread William Stein
On Sat, Nov 21, 2009 at 10:57 AM, Dr. David Kirkby wrote: > I just made a small fix to readline's spkg-install, so readline 6.0 builds > properly on HP-UX. With that fixed, the first point of failure when building > Sage 4.2.1 on HP-UX is with gnutls-2.2.1. Although HP-UX is not a supported > plat

[sage-devel] Is there a reason for gnutls being so out of date ?

2009-11-21 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
I just made a small fix to readline's spkg-install, so readline 6.0 builds properly on HP-UX. With that fixed, the first point of failure when building Sage 4.2.1 on HP-UX is with gnutls-2.2.1. Although HP-UX is not a supported platform, I created a ticket for this. http://trac.sagemath.org/sag

[sage-devel] Re: wolfram alpha api

2009-11-21 Thread Harald Schilly
On Nov 20, 5:17 am, Jason Grout wrote: > Has anyone applied for awolframalphaapi id for Sage? > Not that I would know of. I'll do it right now, let's see if i get a response! H -- To post to this group, send an email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email

[sage-devel] Re: Sage Survey 2009

2009-11-21 Thread Harald Schilly
On Nov 20, 12:25 pm, William Stein wrote: > How many people responded last year? > Last year 186 valid answers in nearly 2 weeks. We are now at 156 answers in 4 days. H -- To post to this group, send an email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to sag

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Some questions about Sage goals

2009-11-21 Thread William Stein
On Sat, Nov 21, 2009 at 5:51 AM, cool-RR wrote: > > > On Nov 19, 5:55 pm, Harald Schilly wrote: >> On Nov 19, 7:37 am, Jan Groenewald wrote: >> >> > Is VMWARE outdated >> > and virtualbox recommended? >> >> There is no vmware image. The vmware instructions are just for >> reference and they were

[sage-devel] Re: Some questions about Sage goals

2009-11-21 Thread cool-RR
On Nov 19, 5:55 pm, Harald Schilly wrote: > On Nov 19, 7:37 am, Jan Groenewald wrote: > > > Is VMWARE outdated > > and virtualbox recommended? > > There is no vmware image. The vmware instructions are just for > reference and they were used some time ago. > > But you do not need them at all. If