[sage-devel] Re: constructing a scheme morphism to an affine curve

2009-11-04 Thread Alex Ghitza
Hi Willem Jan, Ronald, I'm putting this on my todo list. About half a year ago I did some work adding doctests and fixing/reorganising things with scheme morphisms, but I didn't get a chance to finish. I'll try to have a look at your patch soon. And: thanks for working on this! Best, Alex

[sage-devel] Re: Should trac has a 'report upstream' pull-down?

2009-11-04 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
Jason Grout wrote: > Dr. David Kirkby wrote: >> 1) N/A - Not an upstream bug >> 2) Not yet reported upstream; Will do shortly. >> 3) Reported upstream. Little or no feedback. >> 4) Reported upstream. Developers acknowledge bug. >> 5) Reported upstream. Developers deny it's a bug. >> 6) Fixed upstr

[sage-devel] Re: sqrt(2) is real or not

2009-11-04 Thread Gonzalo Tornaria
On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 2:43 PM, William Stein wrote: >            sage: Integers(7)(3) in ZZ >            True I found this one funny: sage: a = Integers(7)(3) sage: a in ZZ True sage: a in QQ False In the same vein: sage: b = Integers(11)(3) sage: a in ZZ True sage: b in ZZ True sage: a + b

[sage-devel] Re: Should trac has a 'report upstream' pull-down?

2009-11-04 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
Dr. David Kirkby wrote: > That would give up 9 options. I think there might always be something which > does > not fall into a nice category, so perhaps a 10th 'catch all' is needed too. > > 1) N/A - Not an upstream bug > 2) Not yet reported upstream; Will do shortly. > 3) Reported upstream. L

[sage-devel] Re: Should trac has a 'report upstream' pull-down?

2009-11-04 Thread Jason Grout
Dr. David Kirkby wrote: > > 1) N/A - Not an upstream bug > 2) Not yet reported upstream; Will do shortly. > 3) Reported upstream. Little or no feedback. > 4) Reported upstream. Developers acknowledge bug. > 5) Reported upstream. Developers deny it's a bug. > 6) Fixed upstream, in a later stable r

[sage-devel] Re: Should trac has a 'report upstream' pull-down?

2009-11-04 Thread kcrisman
> > If one finds a workaround for a bug, IMHO one has a moral duty to let the > upstream developer know of the bug. Tell them you have found a workaround, but > it should still be reported upstream. So perhaps a > > * Workaround found; Bug reported upstream > > would be useful. Yes, of course -

[sage-devel] Re: Should trac has a 'report upstream' pull-down?

2009-11-04 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
kcrisman wrote: > > > On Nov 4, 2:22 pm, "ma...@mendelu.cz" wrote: >>> We might also have an option for "fixed in our version", as many times >>> we will patch an spkg and simultaneously report it upstream. When we >>> eventually get the upstream fix in an update, we delete our patch. >> In ot

[sage-devel] constructing a scheme morphism to an affine curve

2009-11-04 Thread Willem Jan Palenstijn
Hi all, Ronald van Luijk encountered the following problem: sage: S. = QQ[] sage: A1. = AffineSpace(QQ,1) sage: A1_emb = Curve(p-2) sage: type(A1_emb) sage: g = A1.hom([2,r],A1_emb) TypeError: _point_morphism_class() takes exactly 1 non-keyword argument (3 given) We browsed through the scheme

[sage-devel] Older computers and LiveCD

2009-11-04 Thread Lucio Lastra
Hi all, I just tried the solution of removing MPIR and ATLAS and recompiling Sage and took about 27 minutes in my Pentium D 3.4 GHz, 3 GB RAM. I wonder if it makes sense to apply this solution every time the LiveCD runs, for older computers or alike in order to make them run Sage without the "Il

[sage-devel] Re: Illegal instruction fix error

2009-11-04 Thread Lucio Lastra
Thanks a lot William, that solved it. Greetings, Lucio On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 4:56 PM, William Stein wrote: > > On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 10:51 AM, Lucio Lastra > wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > I was trying to fix the Illegal instruction error as described here: > > > > http://wiki.sagemath.org/faq#

[sage-devel] Re: Should trac has a 'report upstream' pull-down?

2009-11-04 Thread kcrisman
On Nov 4, 2:22 pm, "ma...@mendelu.cz" wrote: > > We might also have an option for "fixed in our version", as many times > > we will patch an spkg and simultaneously report it upstream.  When we > > eventually get the upstream fix in an update, we delete our patch. > > In other words, is this pr

[sage-devel] Re: Should trac has a 'report upstream' pull-down?

2009-11-04 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
Jason Grout wrote: > Dr. David Kirkby wrote: >> It's clear that Sage, unlike most other projects, makes extensive use of >> software not written by Sage developers. As such, when bugs are found in >> that >> software, they should ideally be reported upstream. >> >> I would suggest a pull-down o

[sage-devel] Re: Should trac has a 'report upstream' pull-down?

2009-11-04 Thread ma...@mendelu.cz
> We might also have an option for "fixed in our version", as many times > we will patch an spkg and simultaneously report it upstream.  When we > eventually get the upstream fix in an update, we delete our patch. > In other words, is this preferred way to fix broken Maxima commands? 1. Fix in m

[sage-devel] Re: PPA for Sage in Ubuntu

2009-11-04 Thread Eric Drechsel
Is the goal to produce portable i686 packages or portable i686 packages that use extended vector instructions on machines that support them? Shouldn't packages built without using those instructions work on all i686 compat architectures? On Nov 4, 10:38 am, William Stein wrote: > On Wed, Nov 4,

[sage-devel] Re: OpenSolaris issue with GPL and OpenSSL libraries

2009-11-04 Thread Peter Jeremy
On 2009-Nov-04 01:28:45 +, "Dr. David Kirkby" wrote: >William said the other day the way around this is to build the OpenSSL >libraries >first. Then I looked and see that the OpenSSL libraries were at one time >included in Sage, but were removed since they are not GPL. This was done in >t

[sage-devel] Re: PPA for Sage in Ubuntu

2009-11-04 Thread Nils Bruin
On Nov 4, 10:38 am, William Stein wrote: > It would be really, really awesome in anybody could figure out how to > produce i686 binaries that work on all machines.    Nobody has ever > done so successfully.  The only two packages in the Sage that cause > problems are MPIR (fork of GMP) and ATLAS

[sage-devel] Re: Illegal instruction fix error

2009-11-04 Thread William Stein
On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 10:51 AM, Lucio Lastra wrote: > Hi all, > > I was trying to fix the Illegal instruction error as described here: > > http://wiki.sagemath.org/faq#Otherquestions > > typing: > > rm spkg/installed/mpir* spkg/installed/atlas* > make > > but got an error and attached the log. >

[sage-devel] Re: PPA for Sage in Ubuntu

2009-11-04 Thread William Stein
On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 10:22 AM, Eric Drechsel wrote: > > So regarding a sage personal package archive, I see another advantage > that has perhaps been discussed elsewhere: over time, dependencies > could be moved from a monolithic package -> a dependent package in the > PPA, likely just a versio

[sage-devel] Re: PPA for Sage in Ubuntu

2009-11-04 Thread Eric Drechsel
So regarding a sage personal package archive, I see another advantage that has perhaps been discussed elsewhere: over time, dependencies could be moved from a monolithic package -> a dependent package in the PPA, likely just a version bump of the official Ubuntu package -> eliminated from the PPA

[sage-devel] Re: [sage-support] Question about Karmic.

2009-11-04 Thread Lucio Lastra
Perfect, since the instructions to build a LiveCD from scratch from Karmic don't work right yet. There have been some changes in Grub and squashfs among others. So I can keep with my script still, since now I'll release each time Sage comes out (i.e 4.2.1 etc) and not just in major releases. Hopef

[sage-devel] Re: Should trac has a 'report upstream' pull-down?

2009-11-04 Thread Jason Grout
Dr. David Kirkby wrote: > It's clear that Sage, unlike most other projects, makes extensive use of > software not written by Sage developers. As such, when bugs are found in that > software, they should ideally be reported upstream. > > I would suggest a pull-down on the track where one could s

[sage-devel] Re: sqrt(2) is real or not

2009-11-04 Thread William Stein
On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 8:35 AM, Vincent D <20100.delecr...@gmail.com> wrote: > > I understand now (and agree on) the design: sqrt(2) is symbolic and > any sage expression containing a symbolic expression is also symbolic. > But, considering the non comparison, it seems to give a set theoritic > co

[sage-devel] Re: sqrt(2) is real or not

2009-11-04 Thread Vincent D
I understand now (and agree on) the design: sqrt(2) is symbolic and any sage expression containing a symbolic expression is also symbolic. But, considering the non comparison, it seems to give a set theoritic contradiction: sage: sqrt(2) in RR True And RR is an ordered field. I think it goes in

[sage-devel] Re: [sage-support] Question about Karmic.

2009-11-04 Thread William Stein
On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 7:10 AM, Lucio Lastra wrote: > Hi all, > > Is there any difference if the Sage 4.2 Karmic release runs on Ubuntu > Jaunty? > > I mean, do certain features fail or something alike or everything should run > fine as always? Sage should work perfectly on both 9.04 and 9.10.

[sage-devel] Re: Should trac has a 'report upstream' pull-down?

2009-11-04 Thread Tim Joseph Dumol
+1 from me. This will be useful to give back to upstream. - Tim Joseph Dumol On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 9:39 PM, Dr. David Kirkby wrote: > > Peter Jeremy wrote: > > On 2009-Nov-02 13:35:05 +, "Dr. David Kirkby" < > david.kir...@onetel.net> wrote: > >> I would suggest a pull-down on the track w

[sage-devel] Re: ECL related tickets needing review

2009-11-04 Thread Juanjo
On Nov 3, 7:55 pm, Nils Bruin wrote: > It is just a separate python module, not explicitly placed in the sage > tree. It depends on two tickets that are ready for review. Kcrisman > has already looked at them, but they could use some attention from > someone familiar with lisp. > http://trac.sage

[sage-devel] Question about Karmic.

2009-11-04 Thread Lucio Lastra
Hi all, Is there any difference if the Sage 4.2 Karmic release runs on Ubuntu Jaunty? I mean, do certain features fail or something alike or everything should run fine as always? Greetings, Lucio --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To post to this group, send an email to sage

[sage-devel] Re: Should trac has a 'report upstream' pull-down?

2009-11-04 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
Peter Jeremy wrote: > On 2009-Nov-02 13:35:05 +, "Dr. David Kirkby" > wrote: >> I would suggest a pull-down on the track where one could select from >> >> 1) N/A - Not an upstream bug. >> 2) Not yet reported upstream, but should be. >> 3) Reported upstream. >> 4) Fixed upstream > > Sounds g

[sage-devel] Re: Should trac has a 'report upstream' pull-down?

2009-11-04 Thread David Joyner
I think this is a good idea too. It would help William and others compile statistics about how Sage is helping/interacting with other projects in the open course math software community. On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 9:35 AM, Dr. David Kirkby wrote: > > It's clear that Sage, unlike most other projects

[sage-devel] Re: sqrt(2) is real or not

2009-11-04 Thread Ralf Hemmecke
> Should I expect > > sage: SR(1) + SR(2) > 1 + 2 > > just because > > sage: SR(x) + SR(2) > x + 2 And why would "1 + 2" be wrong/bad or whatever? Can you give a suggestion what I must input to sage to exacly get an expression 1+2 in sage, i.e. an expression tree + / \ 1 2 ? It all