[sage-devel] Re: Sage at the joint meetings in San Francisco

2009-10-12 Thread Rob Beezer
On Oct 12, 5:29 pm, William Stein wrote: > Maybe we should throw together a Sage Days-style coding sprint?   Sage > Days 18.5.  We would just need a list of all Sage developers at the > meeting, and to organize a meeting location and schedule for coding > sprints.   It would probably be best to d

[sage-devel] Re: Sage at the joint meetings in San Francisco

2009-10-12 Thread Rob Beezer
Marshall, Thanks for printing up business cards for the meeting. Count me in. One year I did this for my textbook - it was a good way to start a conversation. Distributed about 50 all told. If those who were interested in passing out business cards resolved to mention Sage to people they meet

[sage-devel] Re: Doctest for a minor bugfix?

2009-10-12 Thread Robert Bradshaw
On Oct 12, 2009, at 8:27 PM, William Stein wrote: > > On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 8:14 PM, Nick Alexander > wrote: >> >>> Perhaps collapsible headings (so "TESTS" was automatically >>> collapsed) >> >> +1 >> > > To summarize all these great ideas: > > 1. In the notebook, we do some sort of pos

[sage-devel] Re: Issues with plotting on Intel Mac 64 bit?

2009-10-12 Thread Jason Grout
Jason Grout wrote: > William Stein wrote: >> On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 5:41 PM, Jason Grout >> wrote: >>> Mike Hansen wrote: >>> >>> However, there are plenty of ones that we don't have a fix for -- see #7095. I think there are a couple threads on sage-devel about this. >>> Should we be

[sage-devel] Re: Doctest for a minor bugfix?

2009-10-12 Thread William Stein
On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 8:14 PM, Nick Alexander wrote: > >> Perhaps collapsible headings (so "TESTS" was automatically collapsed) > > +1 > To summarize all these great ideas: 1. In the notebook, we do some sort of post processing (?) to the output of Sphinx to add in Javascript to make a col

[sage-devel] Re: Doctest for a minor bugfix?

2009-10-12 Thread Nick Alexander
> Perhaps collapsible headings (so "TESTS" was automatically collapsed) +1 Nick --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To post to this group, send an email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to sage-devel-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For

[sage-devel] Re: alpha.sagenb.org

2009-10-12 Thread William Stein
On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 6:44 PM, Jason Grout wrote: Jason >> >> Do "ssh s...@sagenb" from boxen.  Then >> >> s...@sagenb:~$ cd sage_install/ >> s...@sagenb:~/sage_install$ ls >> sage  sage-4.1.1  sage-alpha >> s...@sagenb:~/sage_install$ cd sage-alpha/ >> s...@sagenb:~/sage_install/sage-alph

[sage-devel] Re: alpha.sagenb.org

2009-10-12 Thread William Stein
On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 7:02 PM, Gonzalo Tornaria wrote: > On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 11:44 PM, Jason Grout > wrote: >> Thanks.  One more question; how do I start/stop the server?  No screen >> sessions are running, for example. > > Since you mention screen, and in case it's useful for somebody, he

[sage-devel] Re: Doctest for a minor bugfix?

2009-10-12 Thread Jason Grout
William Stein wrote: > On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 6:24 PM, John H Palmieri > wrote: >> On Oct 12, 5:08 pm, William Stein wrote: >>> On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 4:45 PM, Kwankyu wrote: >>> Hi Minh, I still have a problem on this issue. 1. "TESTS:" section is not documented in the develo

[sage-devel] Re: Doctest for a minor bugfix?

2009-10-12 Thread William Stein
On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 6:24 PM, John H Palmieri wrote: > > On Oct 12, 5:08 pm, William Stein wrote: >> On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 4:45 PM, Kwankyu wrote: >> >> > Hi Minh, >> >> > I still have a problem on this issue. >> >> > 1. "TESTS:" section is not documented in the developer manual as of >> >

[sage-devel] Re: Sage at the joint meetings in San Francisco

2009-10-12 Thread Marshall Hampton
OK, I'll print up 500 business cards and anyone who wants some can just let me know. I think it will be interesting to see how the meeting goes without an informal presence. Last year we had a big footprint with the booth, AMS session and MAA session. But I think there has been tremendous progr

[sage-devel] Re: Doctest for a minor bugfix?

2009-10-12 Thread Kwankyu
On Oct 13, 9:08 am, William Stein wrote: > On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 4:45 PM, Kwankyu wrote: > > > Hi Minh, > > > I still have a problem on this issue. > > > 1. "TESTS:" section is not documented in the developer manual as of > > Sage 4.1.1 > > 2. Examples in "TESTS:" section are still included

[sage-devel] Re: alpha.sagenb.org

2009-10-12 Thread Gonzalo Tornaria
On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 11:44 PM, Jason Grout wrote: > Thanks.  One more question; how do I start/stop the server?  No screen > sessions are running, for example. Since you mention screen, and in case it's useful for somebody, here's my init.d script to start the sage notebook automatically in a

[sage-devel] Re: alpha.sagenb.org

2009-10-12 Thread Jason Grout
William Stein wrote: > On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 3:04 PM, Jason Grout > wrote: >> William Stein wrote: >>> On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 11:22 AM, Jason Grout >>> wrote: I have found having the up-to-date alpha/rc on alpha.sagenb.org to be extremely handy for testing to see if a certain patch

[sage-devel] Re: Doctest for a minor bugfix?

2009-10-12 Thread John H Palmieri
On Oct 12, 5:08 pm, William Stein wrote: > On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 4:45 PM, Kwankyu wrote: > > > Hi Minh, > > > I still have a problem on this issue. > > > 1. "TESTS:" section is not documented in the developer manual as of > > Sage 4.1.1 > > 2. Examples in "TESTS:" section are still included in

[sage-devel] Re: notebook help needed

2009-10-12 Thread Gonzalo Tornaria
On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 2:42 PM, William Stein wrote: > name using "os.path.join", which doesn't put a trailing slash in.  One > should write code using os.path.join too, which means you shouldn't > depend on a slash being forward -- it might be backwards (on windows > it is). Note that dos and

[sage-devel] Re: Sage at the joint meetings in San Francisco

2009-10-12 Thread William Stein
On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 1:42 PM, kcrisman wrote: > > On Oct 12, 4:00 pm, mhampton wrote: >> As far as I know, we are not planning on having a booth this year in >> SF. Correct. >> Are there going to be any official Sage-related activities? No, I don't think there will be any. This is defini

[sage-devel] Re: notebook help needed

2009-10-12 Thread Marshall Hampton
Yes, please! Ondrej's usage is very similar to mine. I would find it quite annoying to have to os.path.join all the time. Marshall On Oct 12, 11:54 am, William Stein wrote: > OK, I'll change it to end in os.path.sep, which is cross-platform and > still allows for your use case above. > > Will

[sage-devel] Re: Doctest for a minor bugfix?

2009-10-12 Thread Minh Nguyen
Hi Kwankyu, On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 10:45 AM, Kwankyu wrote: > Do I misunderstand something? The section "TESTS:" is not documented in the Developers' Guide because no one so far has written a patch to update the Guide. Patches welcome :-) However, note that the section "Reviewing Patches"

[sage-devel] Re: alpha.sagenb.org

2009-10-12 Thread William Stein
On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 3:04 PM, Jason Grout wrote: > > William Stein wrote: >> On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 11:22 AM, Jason Grout >> wrote: >>> I have found having the up-to-date alpha/rc on alpha.sagenb.org to be >>> extremely handy for testing to see if a certain patch fixes another bug, >>> testi

[sage-devel] Re: Doctest for a minor bugfix?

2009-10-12 Thread William Stein
On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 4:45 PM, Kwankyu wrote: > > Hi Minh, > > I still have a problem on this issue. > > 1. "TESTS:" section is not documented in the developer manual as of > Sage 4.1.1 > 2. Examples in "TESTS:" section are still included in the Sage > reference manual. If they are intended for

[sage-devel] Re: Doctest for a minor bugfix?

2009-10-12 Thread Kwankyu
Hi Minh, I still have a problem on this issue. 1. "TESTS:" section is not documented in the developer manual as of Sage 4.1.1 2. Examples in "TESTS:" section are still included in the Sage reference manual. If they are intended for test purpose only, then they should not be included in the refer

[sage-devel] Re: Issues with plotting on Intel Mac 64 bit?

2009-10-12 Thread Jason Grout
William Stein wrote: > On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 5:41 PM, Jason Grout > wrote: >> Mike Hansen wrote: >> >> However, >>> there are plenty of ones that we don't have a fix for -- see #7095. I >>> think there are a couple threads on sage-devel about this. >> >> Should we be holding up 4.1.2 for issue

[sage-devel] Re: alpha.sagenb.org

2009-10-12 Thread Jason Grout
William Stein wrote: > On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 11:22 AM, Jason Grout > wrote: >> I have found having the up-to-date alpha/rc on alpha.sagenb.org to be >> extremely handy for testing to see if a certain patch fixes another bug, >> testing the effects of patches that have gone in, etc. Right now i

[sage-devel] Re: Worksheet has not been deleted after deleting

2009-10-12 Thread Jason Grout
William Stein wrote: >> and the notebooks are still running after three days. I think that >> already it worked for me, but do not remember which version. Is >> something broken with timeout option? Or is the problem in my computer >> (virtual Debian in vmware)? > > The timeout option in the rel

[sage-devel] Re: [sage-edu] CVXOPT

2009-10-12 Thread Minh Nguyen
Hi Martin, On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 7:56 AM, martin wrote: > > Hello, > > I've just spent an enjoyable evening fighting with CVXOPT and SAGE. > The results are 2 of the examples from Convex Optimization by Boyd and > Vandenberghe.  http://www.stanford.edu/~boyd/cvxbook/  almost > implemented.   I

[sage-devel] Re: Sage at the joint meetings in San Francisco

2009-10-12 Thread kcrisman
On Oct 12, 4:00 pm, mhampton wrote: > As far as I know, we are not planning on having a booth this year in > SF.  Are there going to be any official Sage-related activities? Depends on what you mean by official. I am giving two teaching- related talks on interactive things I have done with Sage

[sage-devel] Sage at the joint meetings in San Francisco

2009-10-12 Thread mhampton
As far as I know, we are not planning on having a booth this year in SF. Are there going to be any official Sage-related activities? I am definitely attending, and I was thinking that it might be useful if Sage users and developers gave out Sage business cards during any appropriate opportunitie

[sage-devel] Re: Worksheet has not been deleted after deleting

2009-10-12 Thread ma...@mendelu.cz
Oooops, I did it on sagenb.org. Now going to standalone.sagenb.org and try the same again R.M. On 12 říj, 19:54, "ma...@mendelu.cz" wrote: > I just created on sagenb.org worksheet named robert.marik with one > line: x^2 saved, returned and deleted. > > It is deleted for me - in Trash. Is it d

[sage-devel] Re: spkg-install's [was Re: Using a random number generator to tell the time!]

2009-10-12 Thread William Stein
On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 6:58 AM, Dr. David Kirkby wrote: > > Gonzalo Tornaria wrote: >> On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 8:45 AM, Dr. David Kirkby >> wrote: I really like Gonzalo's suggestion to think of specific tools and also the actual people involved, rather than abstractions and standards.

[sage-devel] Re: alpha.sagenb.org

2009-10-12 Thread William Stein
On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 11:22 AM, Jason Grout wrote: > > I have found having the up-to-date alpha/rc on alpha.sagenb.org to be > extremely handy for testing to see if a certain patch fixes another bug, > testing the effects of patches that have gone in, etc.  Right now it's > running alpha1, thou

[sage-devel] Re: Worksheet has not been deleted after deleting

2009-10-12 Thread William Stein
On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 5:20 AM, ma...@mendelu.cz wrote: > > Hello all, I observed the following behavior of Sage 4.1.1 and 4.1.2 > rc0 > > * Sign as robert.marik > * Create worksheet > * Save & quit > * Log on > * Log in - the worksheet has been deleted > * Log on and Log in as admin --- the wor

[sage-devel] alpha.sagenb.org

2009-10-12 Thread Jason Grout
I have found having the up-to-date alpha/rc on alpha.sagenb.org to be extremely handy for testing to see if a certain patch fixes another bug, testing the effects of patches that have gone in, etc. Right now it's running alpha1, though. Can we make some sort of automated process to update it

[sage-devel] Re: Worksheet has not been deleted after deleting

2009-10-12 Thread ma...@mendelu.cz
> I rewrote this functionality in the new notebook.  Could you please > try your test at > >  http://standalone.sagenb.org/ > > and see whether you have the same problem.  And, what browser, OS, etc.? Linux Debian, Firefox (not exactly, debian has its own clone of firefox - IceWeasel) I cannot t

[sage-devel] Re: Worksheet has not been deleted after deleting

2009-10-12 Thread William Stein
On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 10:03 AM, kcrisman wrote: > > > > On Oct 12, 10:03 am, "ma...@mendelu.cz" wrote: >> Oops, sorry for typo and missing step. >> >> * Log in as user (not admin) >> * Create worksheet and enter something (x^2 + shift enter) >> * Save & quit >> * Go to the worksheet again and

[sage-devel] Re: Worksheet has not been deleted after deleting

2009-10-12 Thread kcrisman
On Oct 12, 10:03 am, "ma...@mendelu.cz" wrote: > Oops, sorry for typo and missing step. > > * Log in as user (not admin) > * Create worksheet and enter something (x^2 + shift enter) > * Save & quit > * Go to the worksheet again and delete > * Log OFF > * Log in ad user - the worksheet has been

[sage-devel] Re: notebook help needed

2009-10-12 Thread William Stein
On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 9:48 AM, Ondrej Certik wrote: > > On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 9:42 AM, William Stein wrote: >> >> On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 6:52 AM, Marshall Hampton >> wrote: >>> >>> Its a little thing, but I noticed that the DATA directory is missing >>> its last '/', which is present in p

[sage-devel] Re: notebook help needed

2009-10-12 Thread Ondrej Certik
On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 9:42 AM, William Stein wrote: > > On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 6:52 AM, Marshall Hampton wrote: >> >> Its a little thing, but I noticed that the DATA directory is missing >> its last '/', which is present in previous notebook versions.  I like >> having a trailing '/' present

[sage-devel] Re: notebook help needed

2009-10-12 Thread William Stein
On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 7:07 AM, Jason Grout wrote: > > William Stein wrote: >> Hi, >> >> Nearly two weeks ago I had the notebook stabilized and all known new >> bugs fixed (after separating it off from sage as a separate program >> and rewriting the expect stuff).  But I realized that it would b

[sage-devel] Re: notebook help needed

2009-10-12 Thread William Stein
On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 6:52 AM, Marshall Hampton wrote: > > Its a little thing, but I noticed that the DATA directory is missing > its last '/', which is present in previous notebook versions.  I like > having a trailing '/' present in a directory string, so this seems > like a regression.  Have

[sage-devel] Re: notebook help needed

2009-10-12 Thread Rob Beezer
Initial observations: Redraws of plots in interacts are much improved - just a brief flash and not a long delay. Heavy-duty jsMath works fine, but I guess this is a function of the browser and not the notebook so much. I perceive a more noticeable lag when I do an initial (simple) calculation i

[sage-devel] Re: upcoming sage days

2009-10-12 Thread Rob Beezer
MAA-AMS meetings in San Francisco run Jan 13-16, so would intersect somewhat. Not sure what affect that would have on the participant pool, positive or negative. Maybe some folks could make a triangle and swing north as the meetings conclude on Saturday to join in for a couple of days. For me,

[sage-devel] Re: notebook help needed

2009-10-12 Thread Håkan Granath
> Report any bugs at all that you find. A regression from the notebook in Sage 4.1.2.alpha4 is the loss of parenthesis matching introduced in trac #3646 /Håkan --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To post to this group, send an email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscrib

[sage-devel] Re: upcoming sage days

2009-10-12 Thread Craig Citro
Hey Jason, >> This one is likely to be funded by the NSA: >>  * (tentative!) [[daysbug2|Sage Days 19]] -- Seattle, WA (TBA); theme: >> fixing bugs > > Are the dates for this one totally open, or is there some date range > that we are working within? > Roughly speaking, we were thinking maybe ove

[sage-devel] Re: notebook help needed

2009-10-12 Thread Jason Grout
William Stein wrote: > Hi, > > Nearly two weeks ago I had the notebook stabilized and all known new > bugs fixed (after separating it off from sage as a separate program > and rewriting the expect stuff). But I realized that it would be a > total nightmare to introduce yet another sobj ("sage ob

[sage-devel] Re: Worksheet has not been deleted after deleting

2009-10-12 Thread ma...@mendelu.cz
Oops, sorry for typo and missing step. * Log in as user (not admin) * Create worksheet and enter something (x^2 + shift enter) * Save & quit * Go to the worksheet again and delete * Log OFF * Log in ad user - the worksheet has been deleted * Log OFF * Log in as admin --- the worksheet is stil the

[sage-devel] Re: spkg-install's [was Re: Using a random number generator to tell the time!]

2009-10-12 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
Gonzalo Tornaria wrote: > On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 8:45 AM, Dr. David Kirkby > wrote: >>> I really like Gonzalo's suggestion to think of specific tools and also >>> the actual people involved, rather than abstractions and standards. >>> >>> [...] >>> >> I can see some advantages in this too, but a

[sage-devel] Re: upcoming sage days

2009-10-12 Thread Jason Grout
William Stein wrote: > Hi, > > This is the current picture regarding upcoming Sage Days: > > This one is likely to be funded by the NSA: > * (tentative!) [[daysbug2|Sage Days 19]] -- Seattle, WA (TBA); theme: > fixing bugs Are the dates for this one totally open, or is there some date range

[sage-devel] Re: notebook help needed

2009-10-12 Thread Marshall Hampton
Its a little thing, but I noticed that the DATA directory is missing its last '/', which is present in previous notebook versions. I like having a trailing '/' present in a directory string, so this seems like a regression. Haven't noticed anything else yet. -Marshall On Oct 12, 12:03 am, Will

[sage-devel] Re: spkg-install's [was Re: Using a random number generator to tell the time!]

2009-10-12 Thread Gonzalo Tornaria
On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 8:45 AM, Dr. David Kirkby wrote: >> I really like Gonzalo's suggestion to think of specific tools and also >> the actual people involved, rather than abstractions and standards. >> >> [...] >> > I can see some advantages in this too, but also some pretty significant > disa

[sage-devel] New version of group cohomology package

2009-10-12 Thread Simon King
Hi! To those interested in the cohomology of finite p-groups: There is a new SPKG (version 1.2) at http://trac.sagemath.org/sage_trac/ticket/7195 The new stuff in it are bar codes. This was originally used to study the geometric shape of point cloud data, but we use it to study groups. Idea: 1.

[sage-devel] Worksheet has not been deleted after deleting

2009-10-12 Thread ma...@mendelu.cz
Hello all, I observed the following behavior of Sage 4.1.1 and 4.1.2 rc0 * Sign as robert.marik * Create worksheet * Save & quit * Log on * Log in - the worksheet has been deleted * Log on and Log in as admin --- the worksheet is stil there Can you reproduce this behavior at your installations o

[sage-devel] Re: notebook help needed

2009-10-12 Thread slabbe
Hi, > I hope people will > testhttp://uw.sagenb.org/! Please try it.  Report any bugs at all > that you find. I tested the %timeit option. It works when a space is added after %timeit, but works like %time when no space is added : --- %time t = 9+

[sage-devel] Re: spkg-install's [was Re: Using a random number generator to tell the time!]

2009-10-12 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
William Stein wrote: > > I really like Gonzalo's suggestion to think of specific tools and also > the actual people involved, rather than abstractions and standards. > > Ideas for tools: > >* a GNU toolchain >* Busybox >* Python itself > > One can make a strong argument for writin

[sage-devel] Re: Sage Tutorial Article Set

2009-10-12 Thread ma...@mendelu.cz
Hi than you for info. I just work on improving desolve and realted things (bug http://trac.sagemath.org/sage_trac/ticket/6479 ) . As I understand the previous code, your syntax for desolve is old and preferred one is des = desolve(de,y,ivar=t,ics=[0,1]) Robert Marik btw: the last version of my

[sage-devel] Re: Bug in FastFourierTransform

2009-10-12 Thread Simon King
Hi! On Oct 12, 9:04 am, lutusp wrote: > On Oct 10, 11:59 am, Jason Grout wrote: > > { snip ] > > > As a workaround, maybe you can use the vector fft that uses numpy/scipy? > > Actually, I didn't have a compelling reason to use radix 2, so I now > simply avoid powers of 2. It's for my tutorial p

[sage-devel] Re: Bug in FastFourierTransform

2009-10-12 Thread lutusp
On Oct 10, 11:59 am, Jason Grout wrote: { snip ] > As a workaround, maybe you can use the vector fft that uses numpy/scipy? Actually, I didn't have a compelling reason to use radix 2, so I now simply avoid powers of 2. It's for my tutorial pages -- the one I'm writing now is about general Fo

[sage-devel] Re: Sage Tutorial Article Set

2009-10-12 Thread lutusp
On Oct 10, 12:07 pm, Jason Merrill wrote: [ snip ] > Anyway, I don't mean to belabor the introductory essay, just to say > that I think it ought to be published separately from the tutorial. Fair enough, but the majority of my site's visitors arrive from a search engine, and most of those peop

[sage-devel] Re: upcoming sage days

2009-10-12 Thread William Stein
On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 12:26 AM, salman wrote: > FYI, the PIMS proposal had June 13-18 for the date of the Sage Days on > function fields. That date is obviously not set in stone though. Thanks. I've changed the dates from "April?" to "June?" at http://wiki.sagemath.org > > On Mon, Oct 12, 200

[sage-devel] Re: upcoming sage days

2009-10-12 Thread William Stein
I forgot that there will be a Sage Days on function field arithmetic in Seattle sometime around April. So the schedule looks like: * Sage Days 18 -- Cambridge, MA (December 1-5, 2009); theme: Number theory * Sage Days 19 -- Seattle, WA (TBA); theme: fixing bugs * Sage Days 20 -- Marseille, Fr