[sage-devel] Re: printing and latex representation of multivariate polynomials

2009-07-18 Thread Alex Ghitza
On Sun, Jul 19, 2009 at 9:04 AM, William Stein wrote: > > > Please do not make the above change.  It would be very inconsistent > with what happens for symbolic variables: > > sage: var('x,y,z,w') > sage: f = 1.0*x^2 - 1.0*y > sage: f.variables() > (x, y) I'm not sure symbolic variables are consi

[sage-devel] Re: who reviewed ticket #6399?

2009-07-18 Thread William Stein
On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 12:45 AM, Minh Nguyen wrote: > > Hi folks, > > Concerning ticket #6399 > > http://trac.sagemath.org/sage_trac/ticket/6399 > > does anyone know who reviewed that ticket? You are the one who changed the review to "positive review". Robert Miller explains on the ticket what

[sage-devel] Re: Sage and Singular Talk

2009-07-18 Thread William Stein
On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 6:35 AM, David Joyner wrote: > > On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 9:13 AM, David Joyner wrote: >> On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 5:19 AM, Martin >> Albrecht wrote: >>> >>> On Thursday 16 July 2009, David Joyner wrote: On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 7:31 PM, Kiran Kedlaya wrote: > One pe

[sage-devel] Re: typesetting partial derivatives

2009-07-18 Thread Tim Lahey
On Jul 18, 2009, at 7:49 PM, Jason Grout wrote: > > Burcin Erocal wrote: > >> I attached a patch to the trac ticket that contains an initial >> attempt >> at the MMA notation: >> >> http://trac.sagemath.org/sage_trac/ticket/6344 >> > > FYI, a few days ago Burcin uploaded a new patch on 6344 an

[sage-devel] Re: typesetting partial derivatives

2009-07-18 Thread William Stein
On Sat, Jul 18, 2009 at 4:49 PM, Jason Grout wrote: > > Burcin Erocal wrote: > >> I attached a patch to the trac ticket that contains an initial attempt >> at the MMA notation: >> >> http://trac.sagemath.org/sage_trac/ticket/6344 >> > > FYI, a few days ago Burcin uploaded a new patch on 6344 and a

[sage-devel] Re: typesetting partial derivatives

2009-07-18 Thread Jason Grout
Burcin Erocal wrote: > I attached a patch to the trac ticket that contains an initial attempt > at the MMA notation: > > http://trac.sagemath.org/sage_trac/ticket/6344 > FYI, a few days ago Burcin uploaded a new patch on 6344 and asked for review. Here are the examples: OLD: sage: var('x,

[sage-devel] Re: Good news about unladen-swallow Python branch

2009-07-18 Thread William Stein
On Sat, Jul 18, 2009 at 4:27 PM, Franco Saliola wrote: > > On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 8:39 PM, William Stein wrote: >> >> On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 5:45 PM, Tim Lahey wrote: >>> >>> It looks like the unladen-swallow Python branch >>> has been making good progress. They now can >>> pass their test suite

[sage-devel] Re: Tachyon still working?

2009-07-18 Thread William Stein
On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 9:23 AM, Marshall Hampton wrote: > > I'm probably in the minority on this, but I think tachyon being > totally broken in sage-4.1 is bad enough that a sage-4.1.0.1 should be > released as soon as possible with this fixed, not waiting for the > 4.1.1 cycle to finish in two w

[sage-devel] Re: Good news about unladen-swallow Python branch

2009-07-18 Thread Franco Saliola
On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 8:39 PM, William Stein wrote: > > On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 5:45 PM, Tim Lahey wrote: >> >> It looks like the unladen-swallow Python branch >> has been making good progress. They now can >> pass their test suite of third party packages >> (including NumPy and SymPy). >> >> ht

[sage-devel] Re: [sage-combinat-devel] Re: -combinat on 64 bit OS X

2009-07-18 Thread William Stein
On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 4:57 PM, Nicolas M. Thiery wrote: > >        Hi William, > > On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 04:37:34PM -0700, William Stein wrote: >> >> On 7/13/09, Nicolas M. Thiery wrote: >> > >> >     Dear William, dear Franco, >> > >> > On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 11:50:22AM -0700, William Stein

[sage-devel] Re: printing and latex representation of multivariate polynomials

2009-07-18 Thread William Stein
On Sat, Jul 18, 2009 at 7:20 AM, Simon King wrote: > > Hi! > > On 18 Jul., 05:14, Alex Ghitza wrote: > ... >> I'd like the second example to look more like the first and it's >> pretty easy to make that happen.  However, this means: >> >> {{{ >> sage: x >> 1.00*x >> sage: y >> 1.0

[sage-devel] Re: __init__.py vs. all.py

2009-07-18 Thread William Stein
On Sat, Jul 18, 2009 at 1:26 PM, Nicolas M. Thiery wrote: > > On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 04:23:29PM -0700, William Stein wrote: >> >> On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 4:24 AM, Martin >> Albrecht wrote: >> > >> > Hi there, >> > >> > is there any compelling technical reason why we are using all.py for module >>

[sage-devel] Re: Bug in NumberField? and use of coercions in equality tests

2009-07-18 Thread William Stein
On Sat, Jul 18, 2009 at 2:41 PM, Nicolas M. Thiery wrote: > >        Hi! > > Here are two independent Sage 4.1 sessions which demonstrate that the > construction of NumberField's is context dependent: > >        sage: K. = CyclotomicField(5)[] >        sage: W. = NumberField(x^2 + 1) >        sage

[sage-devel] Re: Bug in NumberField? and use of coercions in equality tests

2009-07-18 Thread John Cremona
I'm not worried about your second example as such (p is an element of a symbolic ring while q is a polynomial over the cyclotomic field). But you first examlple is definitely a bug. You first create the quadratic field Q(sqrt(-1)); then you create a quadratic extension of the 5th cyclotomic field

[sage-devel] Bug in NumberField? and use of coercions in equality tests

2009-07-18 Thread Nicolas M. Thiery
Hi! Here are two independent Sage 4.1 sessions which demonstrate that the construction of NumberField's is context dependent: sage: K. = CyclotomicField(5)[] sage: W. = NumberField(x^2 + 1) sage: W Number Field in a with defining polynomial x^2 + 1 over it

[sage-devel] Re: firefox 3.5 and jsmath

2009-07-18 Thread Jason Grout
Pat LeSmithe wrote: > On 2009-Jul-01 01:21:56 -0700, Jason Grout > wrote: >> Is anyone else seeing the fonts injsmathin firefox 3.5 messed up? To >> check this, go to >> http://www.math.union.edu/~dpvc/jsMath/symbols/cmmi10.html. > > This is now > > http://trac.sagemath.org/sage_trac/ticket/64

[sage-devel] Re: __init__.py vs. all.py

2009-07-18 Thread Nicolas M. Thiery
On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 04:23:29PM -0700, William Stein wrote: > > On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 4:24 AM, Martin > Albrecht wrote: > > > > Hi there, > > > > is there any compelling technical reason why we are using all.py for module > > level initialisation instead of the Python standard __init__.py? >

[sage-devel] Re: Can a few of you compile this 23 line program.

2009-07-18 Thread Sebastian Pancratz
On my laptop with OS: Windows 2000 CPU: Intel Pentium M 1500MHz Compiler: GCC 3.4.2 (from an old-ish MinGW) it compiles fine and produces the same output as on your Blade 2000. Sebastian On Jul 18, 4:09 pm, "Dr. David Kirkby" wrote: > I'd be interested what you get if you build th

[sage-devel] Re: Can a few of you compile this 23 line program.

2009-07-18 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
MaxTheMouse wrote: > > > On Jul 18, 9:36 pm, "Dr. David Kirkby" > wrote: >> Dr. David Kirkby wrote: >> >>> Are you compiling this as 64-bit code? If so, then I would expect this. >>> Can you try as 32-bit code. >> try >> >> $ gcc -m32 that-code.c > > Okay, that did it. As 32-bit code I get no

[sage-devel] Re: Can a few of you compile this 23 line program.

2009-07-18 Thread MaxTheMouse
On Jul 18, 9:36 pm, "Dr. David Kirkby" wrote: > Dr. David Kirkby wrote: > > > Are you compiling this as 64-bit code? If so, then I would expect this. > > Can you try as 32-bit code. > > try > > $ gcc -m32 that-code.c Okay, that did it. As 32-bit code I get no warning and the output is: $ ./te

[sage-devel] Re: Can a few of you compile this 23 line program.

2009-07-18 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
Dr. David Kirkby wrote: > > Are you compiling this as 64-bit code? If so, then I would expect this. > Can you try as 32-bit code. > try $ gcc -m32 that-code.c --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To post to this group, send email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubsc

[sage-devel] Re: Can a few of you compile this 23 line program.

2009-07-18 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
MaxTheMouse wrote: > > > On Jul 18, 5:09 pm, "Dr. David Kirkby" > wrote: >> I'd be interested what you get if you build this program, which was >> written by one of the gcc guys to try to get to the bottom of this issue >> with mpfr not building. >> > > I get a warning. The program runs but

[sage-devel] Re: Can a few of you compile this 23 line program.

2009-07-18 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
Jason Grout wrote: > Dr. David Kirkby wrote: >> I'd be interested what you get if you build this program, which was >> written by one of the gcc guys to try to get to the bottom of this issue >> with mpfr not building. >> >> On the Sun T5240 ('t2') donated by Sun to the Sage project, it dumps

[sage-devel] Re: Can a few of you compile this 23 line program.

2009-07-18 Thread MaxTheMouse
On Jul 18, 5:09 pm, "Dr. David Kirkby" wrote: > I'd be interested what you get if you build this program, which was > written by one of the gcc guys to try to get to the bottom of this issue >   with mpfr not building. > I get a warning. The program runs but not much output. This is on an AMD-

[sage-devel] Re: MIP, Coin-Or and GLPK. How to compile it ?

2009-07-18 Thread David Joyner
On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 9:57 AM, Nathann Cohen wrote: > > Hello everybody !!! > > I finally wrote the two versions of the LP solver for SAGE, the first > using COIN-OR and the second GLPK. It is a very early version of the > solver, with few if any control of errors ( feasibility, etc ... ) but >

[sage-devel] Re: Can a few of you compile this 23 line program.

2009-07-18 Thread Jason Grout
Dr. David Kirkby wrote: > I'd be interested what you get if you build this program, which was > written by one of the gcc guys to try to get to the bottom of this issue > with mpfr not building. > > On the Sun T5240 ('t2') donated by Sun to the Sage project, it dumps core: > > kir...@t2:[~]

[sage-devel] Can a few of you compile this 23 line program.

2009-07-18 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
I'd be interested what you get if you build this program, which was written by one of the gcc guys to try to get to the bottom of this issue with mpfr not building. On the Sun T5240 ('t2') donated by Sun to the Sage project, it dumps core: kir...@t2:[~] $ ./a.out n=0 n=1 Abort (core dumped)

[sage-devel] Re: Real domain for symbolic variables

2009-07-18 Thread Maurizio
I think it has been a good idea to create such a new google groups for Pynac, but at the moment it is just empty! :) It would probably help focusing on some topics related to symbolics, and be more suitable for communication of new stuff/features to the community, without necessarily bothering ev

[sage-devel] Re: printing and latex representation of multivariate polynomials

2009-07-18 Thread Simon King
Hi! On 18 Jul., 05:14, Alex Ghitza wrote: ... > I'd like the second example to look more like the first and it's > pretty easy to make that happen.  However, this means: > > {{{ > sage: x > 1.00*x > sage: y > 1.00*y > sage: (x^2 - y).variables() > [1.00*x, 1.0

[sage-devel] Re: Custom definitions for latex style

2009-07-18 Thread Burcin Erocal
On Sat, 18 Jul 2009 06:29:22 -0700 (PDT) Golam Mortuza Hossain wrote: > > Hi, > > On Jun 25, 9:05 am, Burcin Erocal wrote: > > On Thu, 25 Jun 2009 13:22:46 +0200 > > > > Stan Schymanski wrote: > > > > > I have been asked to forward the below to the sage-devel list. > > > Ticket #6290 introdu

[sage-devel] Re: Custom definitions for latex style

2009-07-18 Thread Golam Mortuza Hossain
Hi, On Jun 25, 9:05 am, Burcin Erocal wrote: > On Thu, 25 Jun 2009 13:22:46 +0200 > > Stan Schymanski wrote: > > > I have been asked to forward the below to the sage-devel list. Ticket > > #6290 introduced a way to custom-define thelatexstyle of functions, > > but it would be great if something

[sage-devel] Re: Real domain for symbolic variables

2009-07-18 Thread Burcin Erocal
On Sat, 18 Jul 2009 09:49:19 -0300 Golam Mortuza Hossain wrote: > > Hi, > > In new symbolics, the default symbolic variables are complex. > However, sometime it is useful/desirable to make the domain of > variables to be real. > > Currently, there are no way to specify the domain of variables

[sage-devel] Re: Real domain for symbolic variables

2009-07-18 Thread Minh Nguyen
Hi Golam, On Sat, Jul 18, 2009 at 10:49 PM, Golam Mortuza Hossain wrote: > I could implement above rather easily by exposing underlying Ginac > feature. However, I am not sure how to submit patches for pynac/ginac > as its not under "devel/sage". The Pynac website is http://pynac.sagemath.or

[sage-devel] Re: PolyBoRi - can the status be resolved ?

2009-07-18 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
Minh Nguyen wrote: > Hi David, Hi Minh > On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 12:04 PM, Minh Nguyen wrote: >> On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 12:01 PM, Dr. David >> Kirkby wrote: >> >> >> >>> I forgot. Try: >>> >>> http://sage.math.washington.edu/home/kirkby/Solaris-fixes/mpfr/mpfr-2.4.1p0.spkg >>> >>> it should m

[sage-devel] Real domain for symbolic variables

2009-07-18 Thread Golam Mortuza Hossain
Hi, In new symbolics, the default symbolic variables are complex. However, sometime it is useful/desirable to make the domain of variables to be real. Currently, there are no way to specify the domain of variables in Sage although underlying Ginac allows it. For example: following would to be g

[sage-devel] Re: Sage 4.1 compile fails with "Ohhhh jeeee: operation is not possible without initialized secure memory"

2009-07-18 Thread Carlo Hamalainen
On Sat, Jul 18, 2009 at 11:43 AM, gsw wrote: > The error message "O j: operation is not possible without > initialized secure memory" is not a one from Sage, but from your > system, and triggered somehow by calling the "ls" command. > A Google search for the string "O j: operation

[sage-devel] Re: Sage 4.1 compile fails with "Ohhhh jeeee: operation is not possible without initialized secure memory"

2009-07-18 Thread gsw
Hi Carlo, strange indeed. I looked at log you posted, several spkg's install fine, e.g.: libgpg_error-1.6.p1 Machine: Linux snehurka 2.6.18 #6 SMP Mon Nov 27 17:53:06 CET 2006 x86_64 GNU/ Linux Deleting directories from past builds of previous/current versions of libgpg_error-1.6.p1 Extracting p

[sage-devel] Sage 4.1 compile fails with "Ohhhh jeeee: operation is not possible without initialized secure memory"

2009-07-18 Thread Carlo Hamalainen
Hi, I'm trying to compile Sage 4.1 on a 64bit AMD computer (actually the front node of a cluster) and I get a weird error. The full log is here: http://carlo-hamalainen.net/sagetmp/install-2009-07-18.log Here's the weird bit: sage-spkg opencdk-0.6.6 2>&1 You must set the SAGE_ROOT environment

[sage-devel] Re: printing and latex representation of multivariate polynomials

2009-07-18 Thread David Roe
I'm not sure what the right plan for variables is, but if you're rewriting polynomial printing, take a look at sage/rings/padics/padic_printing.pyx. I think that having a "printer object" attached to a parent, allowing for a different inheritance tree for the printing objects and more flexibility

[sage-devel] Re: PolyBoRi - can the status be resolved ?

2009-07-18 Thread Minh Nguyen
Hi David, On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 12:04 PM, Minh Nguyen wrote: > On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 12:01 PM, Dr. David > Kirkby wrote: > > > >> I forgot. Try: >> >> http://sage.math.washington.edu/home/kirkby/Solaris-fixes/mpfr/mpfr-2.4.1p0.spkg >> >> it should make no difference whatsoever, as the versio