[sage-devel] Re: Error building from Source on Linux - libgcrypt-1.4.3 - Assembler messages

2009-04-19 Thread mabshoff
On Apr 19, 11:29 pm, Mike Cripps wrote: > Hi Michael Hi Mike, > > Oops, I meant if the /proc/cpuinfo from the "inside" of the Xen > > machine in case the above wasn't it already. I am also wondering if > > the kernel is 32 or 64 bit since I am not sure what the virtulization > > does kernel

[sage-devel] Re: Error building from Source on Linux - libgcrypt-1.4.3 - Assembler messages

2009-04-19 Thread Mike Cripps
Hi Michael > > > Could you post the output from /proc/cpuinfo please? > > Oops, I meant if the /proc/cpuinfo from the "inside" of the Xen > machine in case the above wasn't it already. I am also wondering if > the kernel is 32 or 64 bit since I am not sure what the virtulization > does kernel wis

[sage-devel] Re: Error building from Source on Linux - libgcrypt-1.4.3 - Assembler messages

2009-04-19 Thread mabshoff
On Apr 19, 10:47 pm, mabshoff wrote: > On Apr 19, 8:55 am, Mike Cripps wrote: > > Hi Mike, > Could you post the output from /proc/cpuinfo please? Oops, I meant if the /proc/cpuinfo from the "inside" of the Xen machine in case the above wasn't it already. I am also wondering if the kernel i

[sage-devel] Re: Error building from Source on Linux - libgcrypt-1.4.3 - Assembler messages

2009-04-19 Thread mabshoff
On Apr 19, 8:55 am, Mike Cripps wrote: Hi Mike, > Apologies - I have tar gzipped the install log file and it is at: > > http://www.irreverence.ath.cx/install.log.tar.gz(size is approx > 116kB) > > I am concerned about Bill Hart's suggestion that my machine could > believe it is 32bit - will t

[sage-devel] Re: bug in rational_diagonal_form() from QuadraticForm class?

2009-04-19 Thread mabshoff
Hi Luis, please open a trac ticket since Jon did not respond yet and post the patch there. I talked to Gonzalo in IRC today and he mentioned that he also had a bug fix, but he wanted to give you a chance to post a patch first. Cheers, Michael --~--~-~--~~~---~--~

[sage-devel] Re: programming: define a new function

2009-04-19 Thread Ondrej Certik
On Sun, Apr 19, 2009 at 3:28 PM, William Stein wrote: > Ondrej, > > How does sympy compute the integral of > > (x^2 + 2*x + 1 + > (3*x+1)*sqrt(x+log(x)))/(x*sqrt(x+log(x))*(x+sqrt(x+log(x? See this thread in our list: http://groups.google.com/group/sympy/browse_thread/thread/9a61d681e6f96

[sage-devel] Re: Last couple reviews for 3.4.1.rc4

2009-04-19 Thread John H Palmieri
On Apr 19, 5:14 pm, mabshoff wrote: > On Apr 19, 1:01 am, mabshoff wrote: > > > > >  * #5806: Sage 3.4.1.rc3: failing test "devel/sage/sage/misc/ > > sagedoc.py" > > Ok, it seems that there is no movement on that ticket yet. So unless > something pops up in the next hour or so this file will be

[sage-devel] Re: Last couple reviews for 3.4.1.rc4

2009-04-19 Thread Gonzalo Tornaria
Florent, On Sun, Apr 19, 2009 at 12:07 PM, Florent Hivert wrote: > As you know I have access to such a core 2 quad, and I'm constantly bitten by > this pexpect issue. So I tried this ticket. It doesn't seems to work for me: Can you run tests several times and see if the timeouts are always in t

[sage-devel] Re: Last couple reviews for 3.4.1.rc4

2009-04-19 Thread mabshoff
On Apr 19, 1:01 am, mabshoff wrote: >  * #5806: Sage 3.4.1.rc3: failing test "devel/sage/sage/misc/ > sagedoc.py" Ok, it seems that there is no movement on that ticket yet. So unless something pops up in the next hour or so this file will be "nodoctest" in 3.4.1 :( Cheers, Michael --~--~-

[sage-devel] Re: programming: define a new function

2009-04-19 Thread Ondrej Certik
On Sun, Apr 19, 2009 at 4:20 PM, root wrote: > >> So we have a good start to implement the Risch algorithm in sympy already. > > Ondrej, what result do you get for: > >  integrate(sqrt(x+log(x)),x) In [1]: integrate(sqrt(x+log(x)),x) Out[1]: ⌠ ⎮ ⎮ ╲╱ x + log(x) dx ⌡ So we can't

[sage-devel] Re: programming: define a new function

2009-04-19 Thread root
> > A much shorter example is: > > > > integrate(sqrt(x+log(x)),x) > > > > to which Axiom replies: > > > > integrate: implementation incomplete (constant residues) > > > > What is f(x) = sqrt(x+log(x)) supposed to be an example of? Does f > has an antiderivative that can be expressed in terms of

[sage-devel] Re: programming: define a new function

2009-04-19 Thread root
> So we have a good start to implement the Risch algorithm in sympy already. Ondrej, what result do you get for: integrate(sqrt(x+log(x)),x) Tim --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To post to this group, send email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this grou

[sage-devel] Re: programming: define a new function

2009-04-19 Thread William Stein
On Sun, Apr 19, 2009 at 3:25 PM, Ondrej Certik wrote: > > On Sun, Apr 19, 2009 at 1:23 PM, Fredrik Johansson > wrote: >> >> On Sun, Apr 19, 2009 at 10:14 PM, William Stein wrote: >>> Wikipedia also has a few interesting remarks, e.g., that the Risch >>> algorithm isn't an algorithm, because it

[sage-devel] Re: programming: define a new function

2009-04-19 Thread Ondrej Certik
On Sun, Apr 19, 2009 at 1:23 PM, Fredrik Johansson wrote: > > On Sun, Apr 19, 2009 at 10:14 PM, William Stein wrote: >> Wikipedia also has a few interesting remarks, e.g., that the Risch >> algorithm isn't an algorithm, because it depends on being able to >> check equality of general elementary

[sage-devel] Re: programming: define a new function

2009-04-19 Thread William Stein
On Sun, Apr 19, 2009 at 3:33 PM, root wrote: > >> > Wikipedia also has a few interesting remarks, e.g., that the Risch >> > algorithm isn't an algorithm, because it depends on being able to >> > check equality of general elementary functions, which is evidently an >> > open problem in general (so

[sage-devel] Re: programming: define a new function

2009-04-19 Thread root
> > Wikipedia also has a few interesting remarks, e.g., that the Risch > > algorithm isn't an algorithm, because it depends on being able to > > check equality of general elementary functions, which is evidently an > > open problem in general (so in practice you just fake it by evaluating > > nume

[sage-devel] Re: programming: define a new function

2009-04-19 Thread root
> > Wikipedia also has a few interesting remarks, e.g., that the Risch > > algorithm isn't an algorithm, because it depends on being able to > > check equality of general elementary functions, which is evidently an > > open problem in general (so in practice you just fake it by evaluating > > nume

[sage-devel] Re: programming: define a new function

2009-04-19 Thread Fredrik Johansson
On Sun, Apr 19, 2009 at 10:14 PM, William Stein wrote: > Wikipedia also has a few interesting remarks, e.g., that the Risch > algorithm isn't an algorithm, because it depends on being able to > check equality of general elementary functions, which is evidently an > open problem in general (so in

[sage-devel] Re: programming: define a new function

2009-04-19 Thread William Stein
On Sun, Apr 19, 2009 at 10:34 AM, Carl Witty wrote: > > On Sun, Apr 19, 2009 at 7:44 AM, Maurizio wrote: >> Carl, I took advantage of your suggestion, even though I assume I >> can't still go through the whole process with the current gcd >> capabilities in Pynac. But before than that, I'd like

[sage-devel] Re: Last couple reviews for 3.4.1.rc4

2009-04-19 Thread mabshoff
On Apr 19, 10:28 am, "Georg S. Weber" wrote: > On 19 Apr., 18:29, mabshoff wrote: > > > On Apr 19, 8:07 am, Florent Hivert > > wrote: > > > >       Dear Michael, > > > Hi Florent, > > > > Am I doing something wrong ? Or am I just giving a bad news ?   > > > As mentioned on the ticket in the l

[sage-devel] Re: programming: define a new function

2009-04-19 Thread Carl Witty
On Sun, Apr 19, 2009 at 7:44 AM, Maurizio wrote: > Carl, I took advantage of your suggestion, even though I assume I > can't still go through the whole process with the current gcd > capabilities in Pynac. But before than that, I'd like to point out > something strange I did notice, and maybe als

[sage-devel] Re: Last couple reviews for 3.4.1.rc4

2009-04-19 Thread Georg S. Weber
On 19 Apr., 18:29, mabshoff wrote: > On Apr 19, 8:07 am, Florent Hivert > wrote: > > >       Dear Michael, > > Hi Florent, > > > Am I doing something wrong ? Or am I just giving a bad news ?   > > As mentioned on the ticket in the last two comments you need the spkgs > from #5823 for the patch

[sage-devel] Re: Last couple reviews for 3.4.1.rc4

2009-04-19 Thread mabshoff
On Apr 19, 8:07 am, Florent Hivert wrote: >       Dear Michael, Hi Florent, > Am I doing something wrong ? Or am I just giving a bad news ?   As mentioned on the ticket in the last two comments you need the spkgs from #5823 for the patch to work. > Cheers, > > Florent Cheers, Michael --~-

[sage-devel] Re: Last couple reviews for 3.4.1.rc4

2009-04-19 Thread Florent Hivert
Dear Michael, > * #5662: Gonzalo Tonoria: Timing issue in clisp-readline (Nasty hang > (deadlock?) in maxima pexpect interface on core 2 quad [Reviewed by > Dan Drake] > The 8th open ticket is a "maxima can't start up" problem and fixed by > #5823 it seems. #5662 has a positive review, bu

[sage-devel] Re: Error building from Source on Linux - libgcrypt-1.4.3 - Assembler messages

2009-04-19 Thread Mike Cripps
Apologies - I have tar gzipped the install log file and it is at: http://www.irreverence.ath.cx/install.log.tar.gz (size is approx 116kB) I am concerned about Bill Hart's suggestion that my machine could believe it is 32bit - will the install log file be sufficient to determine if this is the ca

[sage-devel] Re: programming: define a new function

2009-04-19 Thread Maurizio
Challenging? Just because about the problem of integration in finite terms Hardy in 1916 stated that “there is reason to suppose that no such method can be given” ? :) I want to add to this discussion that I found a lot of useful information in this thread from SymPy list: http://groups.google.co

[sage-devel] Re: Error building from Source on Linux - libgcrypt-1.4.3 - Assembler messages

2009-04-19 Thread Bill Hart
It looks like the assembler is complaining because it is being asked to compile a 64 bit program on a machine which it incorrectly believes is 32 bits. We've seen a similar issue with MPIR, though the C compiler there was pathcc not gcc. We decided the machine had probably been set up incorrectly.

[sage-devel] Re: Error building from Source on Linux - libgcrypt-1.4.3 - Assembler messages

2009-04-19 Thread mabshoff
On Apr 19, 7:59 am, Mike Cripps wrote: > Hi all, Hi Mike, > I have been attempting to install Sage today from the source, and when > I ran `make` I got the following output (after a lot of stuff compiled > fine): > ude -Wa,--noexecstack -g -O2 -MT mpih-add1-asm.lo -MD -MP -MF .deps/ > mpih

[sage-devel] Re: programming: define a new function

2009-04-19 Thread Martin Musatov
Aha! Quite the challenge is it not? On Sun, Apr 19, 2009 at 7:44 AM, Maurizio wrote: > > Hi all > > > Well, we just need a resultant algorithm that doesn't go through > > Singular. I'm planning to write such a thing as part of my > > cylindrical algebraic decomposition implementation sometime in

[sage-devel] Re: Error building from Source on Linux - libgcrypt-1.4.3 - Assembler messages

2009-04-19 Thread Martin Musatov
Yep, that's me! On Sun, Apr 19, 2009 at 7:59 AM, Mike Cripps wrote: > > Hi all, > > I have been attempting to install Sage today from the source, and when > I ran `make` I got the following output (after a lot of stuff compiled > fine): > > /bin/sh ../libtool --mode=compile gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H

[sage-devel] [sage-devel][P=NP] On The Nature of Computational Complexity

2009-04-19 Thread Martin Michael Musatov
“If smart people all had Ph.D.’s we would not have light bulbs.” – Martin Musatov speaking on American Entrepeneur and Innovator Thomas Edison Preface: “Computational Complexity” So much of what I have seen since I have began studying computational complexity simply amazes me. I have come from

[sage-devel] [sage-devel]primegaps

2009-04-19 Thread Martin Michael Musatov
primegaps = {First[#], Last[#]} & /@ {{1, 2}, {2, 3}, {4, 7}, {6, 23}, {8, 89}, {14, 113}, {18, 523}, {20, 887}, {22, 1129}, {34, 1327}, {36, 9551}, {44, 15683}, {52, 19609}, {72, 31397}, {86, 155921}, {96, 360653}, {112, 370261}, {114, 492113}, {118, 1349533}, {132, 1357201},

[sage-devel] Error building from Source on Linux - libgcrypt-1.4.3 - Assembler messages

2009-04-19 Thread Mike Cripps
Hi all, I have been attempting to install Sage today from the source, and when I ran `make` I got the following output (after a lot of stuff compiled fine): /bin/sh ../libtool --mode=compile gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I.. -I../ src -I../ src -I/root/sage/sage-3.4/local/include -Wa,--noexecstack

[sage-devel] Re: [sage-devel]primegaps

2009-04-19 Thread Martin Musatov
My question is how do prime numbers play into ground level computational programming? What is a "troll" and what is a "couch boy"? Why is there is so much resistance from the community at large against establishment of computational complexity, specifically the claim that [P=NP] seems to be a parti

[sage-devel] Re: Embedding iframes into output cells

2009-04-19 Thread Maurizio
Nice! :) On 19 Apr, 16:42, Pat LeSmithe wrote: > In case there's interest...  It's possible to embed any web page into an > output cell with a bit of client-side mischief: > > http://www.sagenb.org/home/pub/464/ > > Since this uses cell_div_output_*, the embeds won't respond to requests > to hid

[sage-devel] Re: programming: define a new function

2009-04-19 Thread Maurizio
Hi all > Well, we just need a resultant algorithm that doesn't go through > Singular.  I'm planning to write such a thing as part of my > cylindrical algebraic decomposition implementation sometime in the > next few months. > > Carl yes, I agree with that. William, unfortunately I can't underst

[sage-devel] Embedding iframes into output cells

2009-04-19 Thread Pat LeSmithe
In case there's interest... It's possible to embed any web page into an output cell with a bit of client-side mischief: http://www.sagenb.org/home/pub/464/ Since this uses cell_div_output_*, the embeds won't respond to requests to hide themselves or to delete all output. Perhaps it's better t

[sage-devel] Last couple reviews for 3.4.1.rc4

2009-04-19 Thread mabshoff
[I posted this accidentally in sage-support first, please reply here. I would guess this indicates that I need to catch some sleep :)] We are quite close to 3.4.1.rc4 and the remaining open tickets are at http://trac.sagemath.org/sage_trac/query?status=assigned&status=new&s... The situation in