[sage-devel] Re: Sage 3.3 sources are out

2009-02-23 Thread mabshoff
On Feb 23, 11:22 pm, Stan Schymanski wrote: > I get a similar error message after compiling from scratch on Intel Mac > OSX 10.4.11. Is this related? I don't think so, the problem might only apply to upgrade. > See full report below. > > Cheers > Stan The linker indicate a library that is

[sage-devel] Re: Sage 3.3 sources are out

2009-02-23 Thread Stan Schymanski
I get a similar error message after compiling from scratch on Intel Mac OSX 10.4.11. Is this related? See full report below. Cheers Stan -- | Sage Version 3.3, Release Date: 2009-02-21 | | Type noteboo

[sage-devel] Re: savefig from pylab in 3.3

2009-02-23 Thread mabshoff
On Feb 23, 9:25 pm, William Stein wrote: > On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 9:22 PM, mark mcclure wrote: > My recollection is hazy, but I strongly suspect the very issue you > posted about was a problem in some of the rc* releases caused by > upgrading matplotlib (and changes to libpng), that were s

[sage-devel] Re: Notebook editing and interactive plotting (jquery?)

2009-02-23 Thread Jason Grout
Rob Beezer wrote: > The past few days I've had my eye on this wish-list item, an > "interactive graph editor" (meaning graphs as in graph theory, not > graphs as in plots of data). > > http://trac.sagemath.org/sage_trac/ticket/1321 > > It'd be great if there was some infrastructure for creating

[sage-devel] Re: instructions how to host sage notebook

2009-02-23 Thread Brian Granger
> I'm curious: is there any chance that you'll use JMOL as a 3d molecular > viewer?  I've been curious about any uses in Sage of JMOL for its > original intended purpose. This is a great idea. I am working with Ondrej on this project and there is not reason we can't do this. Currently, we don't

[sage-devel] Re: Notebook editing and interactive plotting (jquery?)

2009-02-23 Thread Rob Beezer
The past few days I've had my eye on this wish-list item, an "interactive graph editor" (meaning graphs as in graph theory, not graphs as in plots of data). http://trac.sagemath.org/sage_trac/ticket/1321 It'd be great if there was some infrastructure for creating a graph in the notebook by click

[sage-devel] Re: My Modular Forms book

2009-02-23 Thread William Stein
On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 10:17 PM, Minh Nguyen wrote: > > Hi William, > > On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 4:23 PM, William Stein wrote: >> > > > >> You're welcome.  I just realized that "Springer-Verlag" is a typo >> above, since I published the book with the American Math Society.  So >> thanks to the

[sage-devel] Re: instructions how to host sage notebook

2009-02-23 Thread Jason Grout
Ondrej Certik wrote: > > Since my research topis is electronic structure calculations, I took > the most famous electronic structure program abinit.org, which is in > fortran, I replaced their build system with cmake, installed it into > Sage, wrote Python wrappers that produce input files and re

[sage-devel] Re: My Modular Forms book

2009-02-23 Thread Minh Nguyen
Hi William, On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 4:23 PM, William Stein wrote: > > You're welcome. I just realized that "Springer-Verlag" is a typo > above, since I published the book with the American Math Society. So > thanks to the AMS. And here's a patch to fix some other typos http://sage.math.wa

[sage-devel] Re: Sage 3.3 sources are out

2009-02-23 Thread William Stein
On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 12:00 AM, Jan Groenewald wrote: > > Hi > > On Sun, Feb 22, 2009 at 11:39:47PM -0800, mabshoff wrote: >> > As I did make html for the docs in sage-devel/doc, >> > I got this error:http://users.aims.ac.za/~jan/make_doc_error.log >> >> My guess would be you need to install am

[sage-devel] Re: spkg dependencies

2009-02-23 Thread William Stein
On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 3:08 PM, Ondrej Certik wrote: > > Hi, > > I was trying to find if it was discussed before, but didn't find > anything -- what is your view on spkg dependencies? > > It is not that bad so far, but still I need to remember in which order > to install all my aditional softwar

[sage-devel] Re: savefig from pylab in 3.3

2009-02-23 Thread William Stein
On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 9:22 PM, mark mcclure wrote: > > On Feb 24, 12:08 am, William Stein wrote: >> >> This works fine for me in sage-3.3 on my OS X laptop.   There is a >> doctest of this in the sage library, so this must also work on the >> about 17 machines I did full tests of building sage

[sage-devel] Re: savefig from pylab in 3.3

2009-02-23 Thread mark mcclure
On Feb 24, 12:08 am, William Stein wrote: > > This works fine for me in sage-3.3 on my OS X laptop.   There is a > doctest of this in the sage library, so this must also work on the > about 17 machines I did full tests of building sage on.   So... > exactly what OS, hardware, are you running sage

[sage-devel] savefig from pylab in 3.3

2009-02-23 Thread mark mcclure
PyLab seems to have changed for the worst in Sage 3.3. In the sage 3.2.3 notebook, I can do the following to get a passable parabola: %python import pylab as p p.clf() x = p.arange(-10,11) y = x**2 p.plot(x,y) p.savefig('sage0.png') The p.savefig saves the image in the correct cell directory whe

[sage-devel] Re: I cannot compile 3.3 in gentoo

2009-02-23 Thread water
On 2月24日, 上午11时32分, François Bissey wrote: > On Tue, 24 Feb 2009, water wrote: > > this is my log's last several lines. > > > > > > > Configure findings: > >   FFI:        yes (user requested: default) > >   readline:   yes (user requested: yes) > >   libsigsegv: yes > > ./makemake --with-dyna

[sage-devel] Re: instructions how to host sage notebook

2009-02-23 Thread Ondrej Certik
>> Is it ok with you if I rename it from Sage notebook to Hermes notebook >> and only leave a link to sagemath.org at the front page and in the >> help? Well, I know it's opensource, so I could do that, but I meant if >> you have some long term strategy how you would like people to use & >> instal

[sage-devel] Re: instructions how to host sage notebook

2009-02-23 Thread William Stein
> 1) create a new worksheet (no matter which mode), for example at sagenb.org > > 2) > > import pylab > pylab.plot([1, 2, 3], [1, 2, 1]) > pylab.savefig("a.png") > > # it plots a plot, all a-ok > > 3) go back and change [1, 2, 1] to [1, 2, 3], reevaluate, it will > produce this messed up plot: > >

[sage-devel] Re: Interaction with SymPy and other packages

2009-02-23 Thread William Stein
On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 12:04 AM, Maurizio wrote: > > would it be so much additional work to put the results in a form that > a javascript or any other html-related language could digest? > > I mean, I am still in the phase of getting information, but I don't > see how is it possible that Jmol ma

[sage-devel] Re: I cannot compile 3.3 in gentoo

2009-02-23 Thread François Bissey
On Tue, 24 Feb 2009, water wrote: > this is my log's last several lines. > > Configure findings: > FFI:yes (user requested: default) > readline: yes (user requested: yes) > libsigsegv: yes > ./makemake --with-dynamic-ffi --with-readline --with-libreadline- > prefix=/home/huxpen

[sage-devel] Re: Interaction with SymPy and other packages

2009-02-23 Thread Tim Lahey
On Feb 23, 2009, at 10:05 PM, Ronan Paixão wrote: >> > You pretty much have the same problems as I do, since I'm also an > Electronic Engineer. I also find sage hard to use from a > non-mathematician's POV (dealing with Fields isn't something one's > accustomed to do in Engineering). This is a b

[sage-devel] Re: Interaction with SymPy and other packages

2009-02-23 Thread Ronan Paixão
Em Sáb, 2009-02-21 às 07:57 -0800, Maurizio escreveu: > I admit that I've never heard of Pynac. Actually there are two Pynac's out there, one of them is a sage insider project to replace Maxima as a symbolics backend, since that greatly impacts performance and builds. > > > I am wondering what

[sage-devel] Re: Notebook editing and interactive plotting (jquery?)

2009-02-23 Thread Tom Boothby
looks like log plots are on the way: http://code.google.com/p/flot/issues/detail?id=26 On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 5:15 PM, Tom Boothby wrote: > +100 to FLOT. It looks and smells very nice. > > We can work out log plots in the future. Hell, the FLOT people might > even do that for us if we ask re

[sage-devel] Re: Notebook editing and interactive plotting (jquery?)

2009-02-23 Thread Tom Boothby
+100 to FLOT. It looks and smells very nice. We can work out log plots in the future. Hell, the FLOT people might even do that for us if we ask really nice and show them how awesome Sage looks with FLOT vs. how sad I look when I have to wait for matplotlib to render an image. --tom On Mon,

[sage-devel] I cannot compile 3.3 in gentoo

2009-02-23 Thread water
this is my log's last several lines. checking for connect declaration... extern int connect (int, const struct sockaddr *, unsigned int); checking sys/un.h usability... yes checking sys/un.h presence... yes checking for sys/un.h... yes checking for sun_len in struct sockaddr_un... no che

[sage-devel] Re: Request for Sage 3.4 ReST review - 3.4.x release plans

2009-02-23 Thread Dan Drake
On Sat, 21 Feb 2009 at 03:16PM -0800, mabshoff wrote: > The ReST transition is a massive set of diffs totaling about 20 MB in > size, so we do need your help to review the patches in a timely > fashion. All of them are at the 3.4 milestone > > > http://trac.sagemath.org/sage_trac/query?status=a

[sage-devel] Re: Sage build

2009-02-23 Thread Dan Drake
On Tue, 24 Feb 2009 at 12:42AM +0100, Ralf Hemmecke wrote: > > What should happen if I say > > tar xf sage-3.3.tar > cd sage-3.3 > make > make > > i.e. if I issue 'make' a second time? > > Before I try to do that, I'd like to know whether I can expect a build > time less than a minute (instead

[sage-devel] Sage build

2009-02-23 Thread Ralf Hemmecke
What should happen if I say tar xf sage-3.3.tar cd sage-3.3 make make i.e. if I issue 'make' a second time? Before I try to do that, I'd like to know whether I can expect a build time less than a minute (instead of 3 hours). Thanks Ralf --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ T

[sage-devel] Re: spkg dependencies

2009-02-23 Thread Ondrej Certik
>> Yes, I know there is some old python. So that's a show stopper. > > The Sage community had this discussion before and the answer to any > proposed change is "NO". We want > >  * KISS >  * something that only requires a shell to work >  * something that runs on OSX, Linux, Solaris, Cygwin and in

[sage-devel] Re: spkg dependencies

2009-02-23 Thread mabshoff
On Feb 23, 3:08 pm, Ondrej Certik wrote: > Hi, Hi, > I was trying to find if it was discussed before, but didn't find > anything -- what is your view on spkg dependencies? > > It is not that bad so far, but still I need to remember in which order > to install all my aditional software, e.g. c

[sage-devel] Re: sage 3.3 FTBFS with g++ 3.3

2009-02-23 Thread mabshoff
On Feb 23, 3:07 pm, Ondrej Certik wrote: > Hi, > > is Sage supposed to build with g++ 3.3? No, it needs gcc 3.4 or higher due to the requirement for C99 support. There is a ticket to move the check from the FLINT.spkg to the start of Sage, but no one has done that yet. And who on earth uses g

[sage-devel] spkg dependencies

2009-02-23 Thread Ondrej Certik
Hi, I was trying to find if it was discussed before, but didn't find anything -- what is your view on spkg dependencies? It is not that bad so far, but still I need to remember in which order to install all my aditional software, e.g. cmake first, then the fortran package, then my wrappers, it'd

[sage-devel] Re: instructions how to host sage notebook

2009-02-23 Thread Ondrej Certik
Hi, so I got back to it again, thanks for all the support I got here and thanks William for the patches. Here are my replies: On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 10:22 PM, Dan Drake wrote: > On Wed, 11 Feb 2009 at 07:54AM -0800, Ondrej Certik wrote: >> I am not there yet, but I created this howto: >> >> ht

[sage-devel] ReST rereading...

2009-02-23 Thread Florent Hivert
Dear All, Michael suggested on irc to put here some hint about things to look at when checking ReST doc. Here are some thing that I have seen lost in sage-combinat: - comparison sign outside maths < > and also in arrows where the ascii art -> and <- become -; - exponent outisde math ^

[sage-devel] Re: link to published notebook is wrong

2009-02-23 Thread Jason Grout
Ondrej Certik wrote: > Hi, > > steps to reproduce > > 1) go to sagenb.org > 2) create a new worksheet > 3) click publish, click yes > 4) it will say: > > Worksheet is publicly viewable at http://:8000/home/pub/281 > > the address is wrong. > > Ondrej > > P.S. I forgot my trac password again

[sage-devel] link to published notebook is wrong

2009-02-23 Thread Ondrej Certik
Hi, steps to reproduce 1) go to sagenb.org 2) create a new worksheet 3) click publish, click yes 4) it will say: Worksheet is publicly viewable at http://:8000/home/pub/281 the address is wrong. Ondrej P.S. I forgot my trac password again (I am very bad at this:), so I can't just create a ti

[sage-devel] Re: Notebook editing and interactive plotting (jquery?)

2009-02-23 Thread Jason Grout
Maurizio wrote: > Thank you very much for your encouragement. > Honestly, I totally second your idea that using the same matplotlib > would have probably been the best choice from the very first moment. > Please also keep in mind that I am not a software developer, and that > the time spent on thi

[sage-devel] Re: pynac and vector-valued functions

2009-02-23 Thread Jason Grout
Robert Bradshaw wrote: > On Feb 22, 2009, at 1:38 AM, Burcin Erocal wrote: > >>> My first thought is that doing the above might be somewhat orthogonal >>> to pynac, since pynac provides the low-level symbolic manipulation, >>> and the above would just be a natural thing built on top of that. >> I

[sage-devel] Re: Notebook editing and interactive plotting (jquery?)

2009-02-23 Thread Maurizio
Thank you very much for your encouragement. Honestly, I totally second your idea that using the same matplotlib would have probably been the best choice from the very first moment. Please also keep in mind that I am not a software developer, and that the time spent on this should be like an invest

[sage-devel] Re: pynac and vector-valued functions

2009-02-23 Thread Robert Bradshaw
On Feb 22, 2009, at 1:38 AM, Burcin Erocal wrote: >> My first thought is that doing the above might be somewhat orthogonal >> to pynac, since pynac provides the low-level symbolic manipulation, >> and the above would just be a natural thing built on top of that. > > I agree that the above is inde

[sage-devel] Re: Interaction with SymPy and other packages

2009-02-23 Thread Maurizio
I totally agree with you, the power of SAGE should be primarily to allow a transparent usage of different tools without hassles. Provided that, anyone could be free to use different features from any package. But in my opinion SAGE's first aim should be to provide good capabilities, possibly taki

[sage-devel] Re: Interaction with SymPy and other packages

2009-02-23 Thread Robert Bradshaw
On Feb 23, 2009, at 12:46 AM, Burcin Erocal wrote: > Hi Maurizio, > > On Mon, 23 Feb 2009 00:13:10 -0800 (PST) > Maurizio wrote: > >> >> thank you all guys for these useful responses. >> so, I see that sympy and sympycore and pynac are coming from >> different >> people. >> But I assume that y

[sage-devel] Re: Notebook editing and interactive plotting (jquery?)

2009-02-23 Thread Alfredo Portes
Hi Kenny On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 8:55 AM, Kenny wrote: > > Is there any good reason for using flotr, protochart or any other > instead of flot?? Just wanted to point out some other libraries available. I was under the impression you just started looking at some way of doing this, but I see in e

[sage-devel] Re: Sage 3.3 sources are out

2009-02-23 Thread mabshoff
On Feb 23, 10:42 am, kcrisman wrote: Hi, > Upgraded from 3.3.rc2 more or less successfully.  But: > > Upon restarting, got 3.3 banner but then immediate ImportError > Just FYI in case this helps track down something else which you've > been noticing. I can also reproduce this in a 3.3 bin

[sage-devel] Re: Notebook editing and interactive plotting (jquery?)

2009-02-23 Thread Jason Grout
Maurizio wrote: > Michael, > I understand your comments, but my desire to include something like > Flot comes from the need of having dynamic zooming and panning, and > tooltips and something else like that. Is this possible with > matplotlib? I didn't find the way to do it. As I understand it,

[sage-devel] Re: Sage 3.3 sources are out

2009-02-23 Thread kcrisman
Upgraded from 3.3.rc2 more or less successfully. But: Upon restarting, got 3.3 banner but then immediate ImportError ImportError: No module named newforms Error importing ipy_profile_sage - perhaps you should run %upgrade? WARNING: Loading of ipy_profile_sage failed. and then another one, Impo

[sage-devel] Re: Notebook editing and interactive plotting (jquery?)

2009-02-23 Thread Maurizio
Michael, I understand your comments, but my desire to include something like Flot comes from the need of having dynamic zooming and panning, and tooltips and something else like that. Is this possible with matplotlib? I didn't find the way to do it. On the contrary, even the simplest javascript p

[sage-devel] Re: Sage 3.3 sources are out

2009-02-23 Thread John H Palmieri
On Feb 22, 11:16 pm, Jan Groenewald wrote: > Hi > > On Sat, Feb 21, 2009 at 10:39:52PM -0800, mabshoff wrote: > > the final 3.3 sources are out and now available at > >    http://www.sagemath.org/src/ > > On a P4 with Ubuntu 8.04.2 with gcc 4.2.3-1ubuntu6 and > texlive-common 2007-13. I installed

[sage-devel] Re: Sage malloc

2009-02-23 Thread Carl Witty
On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 9:53 AM, mabshoff wrote: > The remaining issues for the 64 bit OSX build certainly seem rather > strange failures and are deep inside oMalloc, so the whole commentary > about the minpoly issue is likely a wrong lead. The strange thing is > also that I can reproducibly segf

[sage-devel] Re: Notebook editing and interactive plotting (jquery?)

2009-02-23 Thread Jason Grout
mabshoff wrote: > > > On Feb 23, 9:00 am, Jason Grout wrote: >> Kenny wrote: >>> Is there any good reason for using flotr, protochart or any other >>> instead of flot?? >> I don't know. In order to standardize on flot or anything else, though, >> someone needs to post a message to sage-devel c

[sage-devel] Re: Windows Sage Project

2009-02-23 Thread William Stein
On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 9:29 AM, Blair wrote: > > I thought the complete windows port should be available via SCM. Yes of course that will be a shortterm goal. Otherwise collaboration is difficult. > I find working on downloaded source snapshots a bit too cumbersome. > > Is there an advantage

[sage-devel] Re: Sage malloc

2009-02-23 Thread mabshoff
On Feb 23, 4:42 am, mabshoff wrote: > Hi Georg, > > here is the result of Sage 3.3 + your spkg patch for 64 bit. This is > compiled using --with-malloc=system: Ok, it turns out the failures I listed here are caused by oMalloc, but they are not caused by Georg's patch. They are also identical r

[sage-devel] Re: Windows Sage Project

2009-02-23 Thread William Stein
On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 8:57 AM, didier deshommes wrote: > > The link to the windows binary seems light (64MB); which parts of > sage are included in it? cython, freetype, ipython, libpng, matplotlib, mercurial, moin, mpir, networkx, numpy, pycrypto, pyreadline, python, pywin32, scons, sympy, t

[sage-devel] Re: Windows Sage Project

2009-02-23 Thread Blair
TortoiseHg and 32 bit look like they fit the bill for me. Thanks. On Feb 23, 5:45 pm, mabshoff wrote: > On Feb 23, 9:37 am, Tim Lahey wrote: > > > On Feb 23, 2009, at 12:32 PM, Blair wrote: > > > > My last name is Sutton and my trac id is bsutton. > > > > I don't mind using Mercurial. I hope it

[sage-devel] Re: Windows Sage Project

2009-02-23 Thread mabshoff
On Feb 23, 9:37 am, Tim Lahey wrote: > On Feb 23, 2009, at 12:32 PM, Blair wrote: > > > > > My last name is Sutton and my trac id is bsutton. > > > I don't mind using Mercurial. I hope it has an interface similar to > > Tortoise SVN. How long would it take to set up the repository with the > >

[sage-devel] Re: Notebook editing and interactive plotting (jquery?)

2009-02-23 Thread Jason Grout
Maurizio wrote: > Jason, > thank you for your quick response. > > Actually, I can't check for any spkg existence, since there isn't any > (still...). What I want, is to plugin another javascript (flot) in my > notebook basically, and then make it load from the notebook itself, > passing some data

[sage-devel] Re: Windows Sage Project

2009-02-23 Thread Tim Lahey
On Feb 23, 2009, at 12:32 PM, Blair wrote: > > My last name is Sutton and my trac id is bsutton. > > I don't mind using Mercurial. I hope it has an interface similar to > Tortoise SVN. How long would it take to set up the repository with the > latest source snapshot from the Windows site? Blair

[sage-devel] Re: Windows Sage Project

2009-02-23 Thread Blair
My last name is Sutton and my trac id is bsutton. I don't mind using Mercurial. I hope it has an interface similar to Tortoise SVN. How long would it take to set up the repository with the latest source snapshot from the Windows site? On Feb 23, 4:44 pm, William Stein wrote: > On Mon, Feb 23, 2

[sage-devel] Re: Notebook editing and interactive plotting (jquery?)

2009-02-23 Thread mabshoff
On Feb 23, 9:00 am, Jason Grout wrote: > Kenny wrote: > > Is there any good reason for using flotr, protochart or any other > > instead of flot?? > > I don't know.  In order to standardize on flot or anything else, though, > someone needs to post a message to sage-devel calling for a vote and >

[sage-devel] Re: Windows Sage Project

2009-02-23 Thread Blair
I thought the complete windows port should be available via SCM. I find working on downloaded source snapshots a bit too cumbersome. Is there an advantage of using HG/Mercurial over SVN. Speed perhaps? On Windows, TortoiseSVN is very popular among many open source projects because of its tight i

[sage-devel] Re: Windows Sage Project

2009-02-23 Thread didier deshommes
The link to the windows binary seems light (64MB); which parts of sage are included in it? didier On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 12:00 AM, William Stein wrote: > > Hi Sage Devels, etc. > > I am getting very impatient about how slowly work on the Microsoft > Windows Sage Project has been moving. Thus

[sage-devel] Re: Notebook editing and interactive plotting (jquery?)

2009-02-23 Thread Jason Grout
Kenny wrote: > Is there any good reason for using flotr, protochart or any other > instead of flot?? I don't know. In order to standardize on flot or anything else, though, someone needs to post a message to sage-devel calling for a vote and explaining why the proposed package is better than a

[sage-devel] Re: Windows Sage Project

2009-02-23 Thread William Stein
On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 6:26 AM, Blair wrote: > > I will help with the Windows port. Thanks. What's your last name? I want to add it to the windows.sagemath.org page. Also, please subscribe to the sage-windows mailing list. > Is it feasible to have the source code in SVN? We'll likely use

[sage-devel] Re: Windows Sage Project

2009-02-23 Thread William Stein
On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 3:38 AM, mabshoff wrote: > > > > On Feb 23, 3:31 am, ahmet alper parker wrote: > > Hi, > >> If you need visual studio 2008, I have one, which is purchased by my >> university. > > The Sage project has several MSVC 2008 Professional licenses donated > by Microsoft Research

[sage-devel] Re: My Modular Forms book

2009-02-23 Thread William Stein
On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 12:46 AM, Tim Lahey wrote: > > On Feb 23, 2009, at 1:27 AM, William Stein wrote: > >> >> Hi, >> >> My American Mathematical Society GSM 79 book "Modular Forms: A >> Computational Approach" (2007), with an appendix by Paul Gunnels, is >> now 100% free, due to a generous con

[sage-devel] Re: Windows Sage Project

2009-02-23 Thread mabshoff
On Feb 23, 7:52 am, Alfredo Portes wrote: Hi Alfredo, > On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 10:46 AM, mabshoff wrote: > > Anyway, that was a little less than a year ago and I have so far heard > > zero complaints about Windows 7 breaking the binary API of code. Given > > that the beta has been downloade

[sage-devel] Re: make check mit Singular-3-1-0 und sage-3.3

2009-02-23 Thread Simon King
Hi Martin, On Feb 23, 4:08 pm, Martin Albrecht wrote: > > Wouldn't it make sense to use option(redSB) for the doc tests, since > > otherwise the result is mathematically not well defined? > > I disagree. The result is well defined, its just not necessarily precise :) > > Also, we are testing th

[sage-devel] Re: Windows Sage Project

2009-02-23 Thread mabshoff
On Feb 23, 6:26 am, Blair wrote: > I will help with the Windows port. > > Is it feasible to have the source code in SVN? Which source code specifically do you mean? If things get checked in it won't be SVN, but HG. *Anything* but CVS or SVN :) Cheers, Michael --~--~-~--~~---

[sage-devel] Re: Windows Sage Project

2009-02-23 Thread Alfredo Portes
On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 10:46 AM, mabshoff wrote: > Anyway, that was a little less than a year ago and I have so far heard > zero complaints about Windows 7 breaking the binary API of code. Given > that the beta has been downloaded a couple million times from MS > themselves as well as probably

[sage-devel] Re: Windows Sage Project

2009-02-23 Thread mabshoff
On Feb 23, 7:45 am, kcrisman wrote: Hi, > Just FYI, there is a miniscule typo > onhttp://wiki.sagemath.org/windows/msvc64-issues > insofar as it refers to the 32-bit port. This is correct since for now we are doing 32 bits only, at least from my end which is complementary to what William do

[sage-devel] Re: Windows Sage Project

2009-02-23 Thread mabshoff
On Feb 23, 7:41 am, ahmet alper parker wrote: Hi, > The article was:http://thebetaguy.com/exclusives/?postid=1029344029 > I am not sure about it's technical correctness.. > AAP Thanks for the link. Note that the article was posted on "Thursday, April 03, 2008" - I thought maybe it was two da

[sage-devel] Re: Windows Sage Project

2009-02-23 Thread kcrisman
Just FYI, there is a miniscule typo on http://wiki.sagemath.org/windows/msvc64-issues insofar as it refers to the 32-bit port. Also, http://wiki.sagemath.org/windows/timeline probably should be updated e.g. with a cut-and-paste of some part of the OP's first message in this thread. It sounds lik

[sage-devel] Re: Windows Sage Project

2009-02-23 Thread ahmet alper parker
The article was:http://thebetaguy.com/exclusives/?postid=1029344029 I am not sure about it's technical correctness.. AAP On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 4:16 PM, mabshoff wrote: > > On Feb 23, 5:16 am, ahmet alper parker wrote: > > Hi, > > > I think one of the main idea behind developing a real altern

[sage-devel] Re: make check mit Singular-3-1-0 und sage-3.3

2009-02-23 Thread Martin Albrecht
> Wouldn't it make sense to use option(redSB) for the doc tests, since > otherwise the result is mathematically not well defined? I disagree. The result is well defined, its just not necessarily precise :) Also, we are testing the behaviour of the groebner() function in that doctest and thus I

[sage-devel] Re: Sage server for many students...

2009-02-23 Thread mabshoff
On Feb 23, 7:04 am, Thierry Dumont wrote: > mabshoff a écrit : > Hi Thierry, > > > In general there are a bunch of suggestions like setting timeouts for > > the python processes and so on to avoid overloading the server. Do you > > have any more info about the setup, i.e. how long do you need

[sage-devel] Re: Sage server for many students...

2009-02-23 Thread Thierry Dumont
mabshoff a écrit : > > > In general there are a bunch of suggestions like setting timeouts for > the python processes and so on to avoid overloading the server. Do you > have any more info about the setup, i.e. how long do you need to go > between upgrades (say some people cannot or do not want t

[sage-devel] Re: make check mit Singular-3-1-0 und sage-3.3

2009-02-23 Thread Simon King
PS: On Feb 23, 3:55 pm, Simon King wrote: > Interestingly, groebner() in Singular-3-1-0-Beta yields a result that > differs from both slimgb and std. According to option(prot), this is since groebner() now uses hilbert driven std on this example. Cheers, Simon --~--~-~--~~--

[sage-devel] Re: make check mit Singular-3-1-0 und sage-3.3

2009-02-23 Thread Simon King
Hi Martin, On Feb 23, 2:41 pm, Martin Albrecht wrote: > Simon, can you trace the commands that go in and out of Singular for this? I > think you can set some logfile attribute for the Singular pexpect interface. Yes, actually it results in two log-files. Both are at http://sage.math.washington.

[sage-devel] Re: Windows Sage Project

2009-02-23 Thread Blair
I will help with the Windows port. Is it feasible to have the source code in SVN? On Feb 23, 5:00 am, William Stein wrote: > Hi Sage Devels, etc. > > I am getting very impatient about how slowly work on the Microsoft > Windows Sage Project has been moving.  Thus I've started a new project > to

[sage-devel] Re: Sage server for many students...

2009-02-23 Thread mabshoff
On Feb 23, 6:10 am, Thierry Dumont wrote: Hi Thiery, >  After many months waiting for computers, I am now ready to start an > installation of Sage for all the undergraduate students of my University. Nice. > We will have a maximum of about 250 simultaneous connections. Hehe, that might be

[sage-devel] Re: Windows Sage Project

2009-02-23 Thread mabshoff
On Feb 23, 5:16 am, ahmet alper parker wrote: Hi, > I think one of the main idea behind developing a real alternative for Magma, > Matlab, Mathematica etc. is their license costs and restrictions on altering > the source code etc. Personally, if I had chance to not to use windows, I > won't. Le

[sage-devel] Sage server for many students...

2009-02-23 Thread Thierry Dumont
After many months waiting for computers, I am now ready to start an installation of Sage for all the undergraduate students of my University. We will have a maximum of about 250 simultaneous connections. Be prepared to read a lot of questions on this list ! The material: I have 3 Sun V40Z mach

[sage-devel] Re: Notebook editing and interactive plotting (jquery?)

2009-02-23 Thread Kenny
Is there any good reason for using flotr, protochart or any other instead of flot?? On Feb 23, 2:32 pm, Alfredo Portes wrote: > Some other similar libraries (some actually inspired by FLOT): > > http://code.google.com/p/protochart/ > > http://solutoire.com/flotr/ > > http://www.lutanho.net/svgvm

[sage-devel] Re: make check mit Singular-3-1-0 und sage-3.3

2009-02-23 Thread mabshoff
On Feb 23, 5:41 am, Martin Albrecht wrote: > Simon reported this doctest failure with his custom Singular 3-1-0 and > sage-3.3: Hi, > > > File > > > "/home/king/SAGE/devel/sage-3.2.3/devel/sage/sage/interfaces/singular.py" > > >, line 116: > > >     sage: I2 > > > Expected: > > >     x1^2*x2^

[sage-devel] Re: pexpect problem.

2009-02-23 Thread mabshoff
On Feb 21, 1:54 am, Florent Hivert wrote: >       Dear all, Hi Florent, > It seems that I'm having a pexpect problem on my computation server. Maybe you > already know that but it is not deterministic, ie doctest hangs in some more > or less randomly chosen file. I've followed the instruction

[sage-devel] Re: make check mit Singular-3-1-0 und sage-3.3

2009-02-23 Thread Martin Albrecht
Simon reported this doctest failure with his custom Singular 3-1-0 and sage-3.3: > > File > > "/home/king/SAGE/devel/sage-3.2.3/devel/sage/sage/interfaces/singular.py" > >, line 116: > > sage: I2 > > Expected: > > x1^2*x2^2, > > x0*x2^3-x1^2*x2^2+x1*x2^3, > > x0*x1-x0*x2-x1*x2, >

[sage-devel] Re: Notebook editing and interactive plotting (jquery?)

2009-02-23 Thread Alfredo Portes
Some other similar libraries (some actually inspired by FLOT): http://code.google.com/p/protochart/ http://solutoire.com/flotr/ http://www.lutanho.net/svgvml3d/index.html http://dragan.yourtree.org/code/canvas-3d-graph/ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To post to this gro

[sage-devel] Re: Windows Sage Project

2009-02-23 Thread ahmet alper parker
I think one of the main idea behind developing a real alternative for Magma, Matlab, Mathematica etc. is their license costs and restrictions on altering the source code etc. Personally, if I had chance to not to use windows, I won't. Let me give an example, last night I read an article about backw

[sage-devel] Re: Sage malloc

2009-02-23 Thread mabshoff
Hi Georg, here is the result of Sage 3.3 + your spkg patch for 64 bit. This is compiled using --with-malloc=system: sage -t devel/sage/sage/calculus/calculus.py # 0 doctests failed sage -t devel/sage/sage/crypto/mq/sr.py # Segfault sage -t devel/sage/sage/groups/generi

[sage-devel] Re: Interaction with SymPy and other packages

2009-02-23 Thread Jason Grout
Maurizio wrote: > would it be so much additional work to put the results in a form that > a javascript or any other html-related language could digest? > > I mean, I am still in the phase of getting information, but I don't > see how is it possible that Jmol makes possible to render complex 3d >

[sage-devel] Some odd doctest failure

2009-02-23 Thread Simon King
Hi! I use sage-3.3, upgraded from 3.2.3-sources with a Singular-3-1-0-beta- spkg. make check resulted in a handful of failures, some related with changes in Singular, but one is (probably) unrelated, namely in R: File "/home/king/SAGE/devel/sage-3.2.3/devel/sage/sage/interfaces/ r.py", line 549

[sage-devel] Re: Windows Sage Project

2009-02-23 Thread mabshoff
On Feb 23, 3:37 am, Kenny wrote: Hi Rob, > There is no need for a window$ server... don't waste your time in such > a > bad way... it is easy to use the wmplayer and the image that the sage > team > provides from the website. There are *plenty* of reasons to do a native port, not but limited

[sage-devel] Re: Notebook editing and interactive plotting (jquery?)

2009-02-23 Thread Jason Grout
Maurizio wrote: > Hi all, > sorry for kind of flooding this group, but I'm very eager to learn. > > I'd like to understand how to add another javascript script to the > notebook. In particular, I'd like to test FLOT for interactive > plotting. I should add that FLOT has been discussed before an

[sage-devel] Re: Notebook editing and interactive plotting (jquery?)

2009-02-23 Thread Maurizio
Jason, thank you for your quick response. Actually, I can't check for any spkg existence, since there isn't any (still...). What I want, is to plugin another javascript (flot) in my notebook basically, and then make it load from the notebook itself, passing some data (vectors of point, for 2d plo

[sage-devel] Re: Notebook editing and interactive plotting (jquery?)

2009-02-23 Thread Kenny
Sometimes the plotting function in Sage are quite annoying , I've just looked at the FLOT package and it seems very promising. Hope to find soon a package to easily include flot into sage notebook! Would be nice to have a pop-up windows that include the graphic and be able to interact with it fro

[sage-devel] Re: Windows Sage Project

2009-02-23 Thread Kenny
There is no need for a window$ server... don't waste your time in such a bad way... it is easy to use the wmplayer and the image that the sage team provides from the website. Obviously don't be mad at me, that's just the way i see and therefore take it as a suggestion. bye Rob. ahmet alper par

[sage-devel] Re: Windows Sage Project

2009-02-23 Thread mabshoff
On Feb 23, 3:31 am, ahmet alper parker wrote: Hi, > If you need visual studio 2008, I have one, which is purchased by my > university. The Sage project has several MSVC 2008 Professional licenses donated by Microsoft Research for the port, so we are good. The point William was trying to make

[sage-devel] Re: Windows Sage Project

2009-02-23 Thread ahmet alper parker
If you need visual studio 2008, I have one, which is purchased by my university. I think it would not be illegal to compile and distribute sage for you with it. But remember, i am not a lawyer...AAP On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 7:00 AM, William Stein wrote: > > Hi Sage Devels, etc. > > I am getting v

[sage-devel] Re: Notebook editing and interactive plotting (jquery?)

2009-02-23 Thread Jason Grout
Maurizio wrote: > Hi all, > sorry for kind of flooding this group, but I'm very eager to learn. > > I'd like to understand how to add another javascript script to the > notebook. In particular, I'd like to test FLOT for interactive > plotting. > > The problem is that I am unable to call another

[sage-devel] Notebook editing and interactive plotting (jquery?)

2009-02-23 Thread Maurizio
Hi all, sorry for kind of flooding this group, but I'm very eager to learn. I'd like to understand how to add another javascript script to the notebook. In particular, I'd like to test FLOT for interactive plotting. The problem is that I am unable to call another script from the notebook, becaus

[sage-devel] Re: sage-view, under emacs

2009-02-23 Thread Pierre
here's another trick i use, by the way. It simply attaches the current buffer to sage, so you just need to go C-x C-s on your file in order to send everything : (defun sage-attach-current-buffer () "attach current .sage file" (interactive) (process-send-string (get-buffer "*SAGE-main*")

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