[sage-devel] Re: New GMP for SAGE

2008-05-07 Thread Alec Mihailovs
From: "Bill Hart" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > 5) Rewrite the x86 assembly to use NASM (possibly FASM, but there is > a > bootstrapping issue with the source code for that, NASM is written in > C, so no bootstrapping problems there). > Q. What about Apple and Microsoft support? > > A. We want to suppor

[sage-devel] Re: http://wiki.sagemath.org/ seems broken

2008-05-07 Thread Francois
On May 8, 12:37 pm, Timothy G Abbott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > When I try to connect tohttp://wiki.sagemath.org/from various IP > addresses, I get the following error: > > "Warning: You triggered the wiki's surge protection by doing too many > requests in a short time. Please make a short bre

[sage-devel] Re: Questions about various spkgs

2008-05-07 Thread Francois
On May 8, 12:25 pm, Timothy G Abbott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm working on getting several of the SAGE dependencies not already in > Debian maintained in the main Debian archive. I had a few questions about > the future of some spkgs: > > I've heard rumor that linbox_wrap might be being m

[sage-devel] Re: documentation for 'view'

2008-05-07 Thread Dan Drake
On Wed, 07 May 2008 at 11:12AM -0700, William Stein wrote: > On Wed, May 7, 2008 at 11:07 AM, John H Palmieri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > (For what it's worth, I've seen LaTeX gurus complain that one should > > not use $$ $$ for displaying math; \[ \] is better. Should the > > default value of

[sage-devel] Re: Sage-3.0.1: error while installing lapack-20071123.p0

2008-05-07 Thread William Stein
On Wed, May 7, 2008 at 5:19 PM, Franco Saliola <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hello. > > > On Tue, May 6, 2008 at 6:17 PM, mabshoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hhhm: > > > > gcc version 4.0.1 (Apple Computer, Inc. build 5341) > > >

[sage-devel] http://wiki.sagemath.org/ seems broken

2008-05-07 Thread Timothy G Abbott
When I try to connect to http://wiki.sagemath.org/ from various IP addresses, I get the following error: "Warning: You triggered the wiki's surge protection by doing too many requests in a short time. Please make a short break reading the stuff you already got. When you restart doing requests

[sage-devel] Questions about various spkgs

2008-05-07 Thread Timothy G Abbott
I'm working on getting several of the SAGE dependencies not already in Debian maintained in the main Debian archive. I had a few questions about the future of some spkgs: I've heard rumor that linbox_wrap might be being merged into mainline linbox at some time in the near future. If this is

[sage-devel] Re: Sage-3.0.1: error while installing lapack-20071123.p0

2008-05-07 Thread Franco Saliola
Hello. On Tue, May 6, 2008 at 6:17 PM, mabshoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hhhm: > > gcc version 4.0.1 (Apple Computer, Inc. build 5341) > ... > That gcc isn't on the black list yet. Can you try updating to a newer > XCode and try again?

[sage-devel] Re: time for cloning

2008-05-07 Thread mhampton
No - sorry for not being clearer - this is from a source install. -M. Hampton On May 7, 5:21 pm, John H Palmieri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On May 7, 1:19 pm, mhampton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I wonder what version the "30 seconds" comment was from. The code > > base is probably growi

[sage-devel] Re: time for cloning

2008-05-07 Thread John H Palmieri
On May 7, 1:19 pm, mhampton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I wonder what version the "30 seconds" comment was from. The code > base is probably growing faster than processor/hard drive speeds. > > On my Macbook, 2.4 Ghz intel chip, 5400rpm drive, a first clone of 3.0 > takes about 1 minute, the s

[sage-devel] Re: 64 bit Solaris (x86 and SPARC)

2008-05-07 Thread William Stein
On Wed, May 7, 2008 at 2:42 PM, James <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I am interested in working on making Sage work with OpenSolaris > (http://opensolaris.org). This is 32 or 64 bit x86 architecture at > this time with SPARC in the future. I would like to help anyone that > is already going do

[sage-devel] 64 bit Solaris (x86 and SPARC)

2008-05-07 Thread James
I am interested in working on making Sage work with OpenSolaris (http://opensolaris.org). This is 32 or 64 bit x86 architecture at this time with SPARC in the future. I would like to help anyone that is already going down this path (since I work in the Solaris organization). Please email me off th

[sage-devel] New GMP for SAGE

2008-05-07 Thread Bill Hart
Hi all, The following should be of interest to many SAGE developers. ANNOUNCEMENT Quietly for the past couple of months, a group of developers has been working towards a new version of GMP which can be used in SAGE and related projects. Q. Why wasn't I told about this? A. We've been gradually

[sage-devel] Re: time for cloning

2008-05-07 Thread mhampton
I wonder what version the "30 seconds" comment was from. The code base is probably growing faster than processor/hard drive speeds. On my Macbook, 2.4 Ghz intel chip, 5400rpm drive, a first clone of 3.0 takes about 1 minute, the second clone 30 seconds. -M. Hampton On May 7, 1:15 pm, John H Pa

[sage-devel] Re: documentation for 'view'

2008-05-07 Thread John H Palmieri
On May 7, 11:25 am, John H Palmieri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On May 7, 11:12 am, "William Stein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Wed, May 7, 2008 at 11:07 AM, John H Palmieri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > (For what it's worth, I've seen LaTeX gurus complain that one should > > > n

[sage-devel] Re: time for cloning

2008-05-07 Thread John H Palmieri
On May 7, 11:35 am, "William Stein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, May 7, 2008 at 11:27 AM, Nick Alexander <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On 7-May-08, at 11:14 AM, John H Palmieri wrote: > > > > In Section 7.1 of the Sage Programming Guide, it says > > > >> Creating clones of a reposi

[sage-devel] Re: time for cloning

2008-05-07 Thread William Stein
On Wed, May 7, 2008 at 11:27 AM, Nick Alexander <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On 7-May-08, at 11:14 AM, John H Palmieri wrote: > > > > In Section 7.1 of the Sage Programming Guide, it says > > > >> Creating clones of a repository should be fairly fast, e.g., about > >> 30 seconds. > > >

[sage-devel] Re: time for cloning

2008-05-07 Thread didier deshommes
On Wed, May 7, 2008 at 2:27 PM, Nick Alexander <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I just installed a fresh copy of Sage on my Mac and ran 'sage -clone > > blah', and it took almost 15 minutes to complete. Running 'sage -clone > > temp' a second time took just over one minute. Neither of these, and

[sage-devel] Re: time for cloning

2008-05-07 Thread Nick Alexander
On 7-May-08, at 11:14 AM, John H Palmieri wrote: > > In Section 7.1 of the Sage Programming Guide, it says > >> Creating clones of a repository should be fairly fast, e.g., about >> 30 seconds. > > I just installed a fresh copy of Sage on my Mac and ran 'sage -clone > blah', and it took almost

[sage-devel] Re: documentation for 'view'

2008-05-07 Thread John H Palmieri
On May 7, 11:12 am, "William Stein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, May 7, 2008 at 11:07 AM, John H Palmieri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > (For what it's worth, I've seen LaTeX gurus complain that one should > > not use $$ $$ for displaying math; \[ \] is better. Should the > > defa

[sage-devel] Re: documentation for 'view'

2008-05-07 Thread Carlo Hamalainen
On Wed, May 7, 2008 at 8:12 PM, William Stein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Why? I think \[ and \] are ugly and hard to type compared to $$'s. What > makes them so much better? http://www.math.uiuc.edu/~hildebr/tex/course/intro1.html The main advantage of the bracket pair "\[", "\]" over the

[sage-devel] Re: Fwd: Tensor products

2008-05-07 Thread Robert Bradshaw
On May 7, 2008, at 5:50 AM, David Kohel wrote: > Hi, > >>> Given algebras A and B, I would return C and the two maps m1: A -> C >>> and m2: B -> C: >> >>> (C, m1, m2) = A.tensor_product(B,ring=R) >> >> I might prefer to have something like >> >> C = A.tensor_product(B, ring=R) >> >> and then

[sage-devel] time for cloning

2008-05-07 Thread John H Palmieri
In Section 7.1 of the Sage Programming Guide, it says > Creating clones of a repository should be fairly fast, e.g., about 30 seconds. I just installed a fresh copy of Sage on my Mac and ran 'sage -clone blah', and it took almost 15 minutes to complete. Running 'sage -clone temp' a second time t

[sage-devel] Re: documentation for 'view'

2008-05-07 Thread William Stein
On Wed, May 7, 2008 at 11:07 AM, John H Palmieri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > (For what it's worth, I've seen LaTeX gurus complain that one should > not use $$ $$ for displaying math; \[ \] is better. Should the > default value of 'sep' be changed?) Why? I think \[ and \] are ugly and hard

[sage-devel] documentation for 'view'

2008-05-07 Thread John H Palmieri
The documentation for 'view' has one typo, and perhaps some other problems. Part of it reads like this: INPUT: objects -- list (or object) title -- string zoom -- zoom factor, passed on to xdvi expert -- bool (True or False): mode passed onto xdvi debu

[sage-devel] sage bug day 12

2008-05-07 Thread William Stein
Hi, Only three heroic people have signed up for Sage Bug Day 12 this Saturday: http://wiki.sagemath.org/bug12 1. Michael Abshoff (old bugs) 2. William Stein (notebook bugs) 3. Craig Citro (current queue: #2535, unfiled enhancement for GammaH, #2329) I hope more people will help out wit

[sage-devel] Re: solve_mod([x == y], 2)

2008-05-07 Thread William Stein
On Wed, May 7, 2008 at 8:23 AM, Carlo Hamalainen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi, > > I think this is a bug. Solving x == y mod 3 works fine: > That's definitely a bug. We are tracking it here: http://trac.sagemath.org/sage_trac/ticket/3124 > sage: var('x,y') > (x, y) > sage: solve_mo

[sage-devel] solve_mod([x == y], 2)

2008-05-07 Thread Carlo Hamalainen
Hi, I think this is a bug. Solving x == y mod 3 works fine: sage: var('x,y') (x, y) sage: solve_mod([x == y], 3) [(0, 0), (1, 1), (2, 2)] But solving mod 2 blows up: sage: solve_mod([x == y], 2) --- Traceback

[sage-devel] Sage on Scientific Linux?

2008-05-07 Thread root
Colleagues, There is a cross-fertilization that might be very useful for both the Scientific Linux world and the Sage world. For those who don't know, Scientific Linux is a linux distribution that is a "common platform" for scientific users. It was recently described as: Sage is an open source

[sage-devel] Re: Fwd: Tensor products

2008-05-07 Thread Bill Page
On Wed, May 7, 2008 at 8:50 AM, David Kohel wrote: > ... > A good design is very important. > > In fact this is a vey generic categorical construction of (a sum or > coproduct in the category of rings). We should first consider how > general products and coproducts should be constructed, and set

[sage-devel] Re: Fwd: Tensor products

2008-05-07 Thread Michel
> A good design is very important. > > In fact this is a vey generic categorical construction of (a sum or > coproduct in the category of rings). We should first consider how > general products and coproducts should be constructed, and set > up a common infrastructure and syntax. It needs to b

[sage-devel] Re: Fwd: Tensor products

2008-05-07 Thread David Kohel
Hi, > > Given algebras A and B, I would return C and the two maps m1: A -> C > > and m2: B -> C: > > > (C, m1, m2) = A.tensor_product(B,ring=R) > > I might prefer to have something like > > C = A.tensor_product(B, ring=R) > > and then one can do > > C.coerce_map_from(A) > C.coerce_

[sage-devel] Re: 3.0.1 pbuild is much slower

2008-05-07 Thread John Cremona
2008/5/7 William Stein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > > Back to work fixing #3111! > > > > That one actually exposed a bug in pari on OSX IMHO, too, i.e. when > > Sage or pari fails to allocate any more memory it just fails. I think > > the likely culprit is pari in this instance, but we will

[sage-devel] Re: 3.0.1 pbuild is much slower

2008-05-07 Thread William Stein
> > Back to work fixing #3111! > > That one actually exposed a bug in pari on OSX IMHO, too, i.e. when > Sage or pari fails to allocate any more memory it just fails. I think > the likely culprit is pari in this instance, but we will see. > I think it is allocating too much memory because the

[sage-devel] Re: 3.0.1 pbuild is much slower

2008-05-07 Thread mabshoff
On May 6, 9:06 pm, "John Cremona" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Michael, John, > I hope you realised that I was only criticising my own lamentable lack > of understanding and not your explanations.  I think that the number > of drinks I'll be buying you next time we meet must be into double > f