[sage-devel] Re: sage -upgrade

2008-02-05 Thread philt
> Perhaps. Please help us make Sage more mature in > this regard. I'm working on it with small pieces when I can ;-) (cf zlib prob reports) > I do not see Sage that way. I see Sage as being like a monolithic program > such as Magma, vmware, Parallels, etc. It is very similar in size to those

[sage-devel] Re: upgrade to 2.10.1 -> zlib headers taken from the host?

2008-02-05 Thread William Stein
Thanks. I've added this to http://trac.sagemath.org/sage_trac/ticket/2068 On Feb 5, 2008 2:43 PM, philt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi, > > libpng-1.2.22.p5 added this in spkg-install: > LDFLAGS="-L\"$SAGE_LOCAL/lib\" $LDFLAGS" > > I tried the following modification: > LDFLAGS="-L$SAGE_LOCAL

[sage-devel] Re: upgrade to 2.10.1 -> zlib headers taken from the host?

2008-02-05 Thread philt
Hi, libpng-1.2.22.p5 added this in spkg-install: LDFLAGS="-L\"$SAGE_LOCAL/lib\" $LDFLAGS" I tried the following modification: LDFLAGS="-L$SAGE_LOCAL/lib $LDFLAGS" and it worked. The problem is that quoting the arg of -L seems still wise as the path could contain a space but it seems it interfer

[sage-devel] Re: 2.10.1, itanium-Linux, and graph_generators.py

2008-02-05 Thread Kate
[EMAIL PROTECTED] sage-2.10.1-ia64-Linux]$ time ./sage -t devel/sage-main/ sage/graphs/graph_generators.py sage -t devel/sage-main/sage/graphs/graph_generators.py [144.7 s] -- All tests passed! Total time for all tests:

[sage-devel] Re: 2.10.1, itanium-Linux, and graph_generators.py

2008-02-05 Thread William Stein
On Feb 5, 2008 1:18 PM, Kate <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > When I build sage-2.10.1 (using gcc-4.2.2) on my itanium-Linux > box, 'make check' gives > > sage -t devel/sage-main/sage/graphs/graph_generators.py*** *** > Error: TIMED OUT! *** *** > *** *** Error: TIMED OUT! *** *** > > If I edit

[sage-devel] 2.10.1, itanium-Linux, and graph_generators.py

2008-02-05 Thread Kate
When I build sage-2.10.1 (using gcc-4.2.2) on my itanium-Linux box, 'make check' gives sage -t devel/sage-main/sage/graphs/graph_generators.py*** *** Error: TIMED OUT! *** *** *** *** Error: TIMED OUT! *** *** If I edit local/bin/sage-doctest and increase TIMEOUT to 240 (from 180), then whe

[sage-devel] Re: sage -upgrade

2008-02-05 Thread Robert Bradshaw
On Feb 5, 2008, at 11:12 AM, William Stein wrote: > On Feb 5, 2008 10:31 AM, Robert Bradshaw > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> I'm not sure I like this idea...I think this creates a larger gap >> between developers and users. > > True. I'm not a fan of such a gap, since I want every single us

[sage-devel] Re: sage -upgrade

2008-02-05 Thread William Stein
On Feb 5, 2008 10:31 AM, Robert Bradshaw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I'm not sure I like this idea...I think this creates a larger gap > between developers and users. True. I'm not a fan of such a gap, since I want every single user to be a developer. > It's a lot easier than downloading and

[sage-devel] Re: sage -upgrade

2008-02-05 Thread William Stein
On Feb 5, 2008 9:58 AM, philt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Is the problem you are solving that with the current situation, > > > you and sage-support) get too many silly build questions? > > Yes. > > If it's easier to support a full install from sources from scratch > than to support planned

[sage-devel] Re: Error Upgrading to 2.10.1 / mpfi / Mac OS X 10.5.1

2008-02-05 Thread Craig Citro
> I did as you asked. I received a similar error when doing the upgrade > after the gmp build. I posted the entire output of both commands > here, in case that might be helpful: > > http://www.gordontillman.info/html/tmp/sage_upgrade_1.html > Hi Gordy, I had the same problem doing sage -upgra

[sage-devel] Re: Sage 2.10.1 released

2008-02-05 Thread Jason Grout
Burcin Erocal wrote: > On Tue, 05 Feb 2008 09:06:57 -0600 > Jason Grout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Burcin Erocal wrote: > >> Can we add the tuning information extraction to the spkg script or >> somewhere that we can just type one command in (sage -tuning or >> something) and get a tar fi

[sage-devel] Re: sage -upgrade

2008-02-05 Thread Robert Bradshaw
I'm not sure I like this idea...I think this creates a larger gap between developers and users. It's a lot easier than downloading and unpacking too. I would propose that if the original install was a binary install, and nothing has been changed, then the -upgrade command will download th

[sage-devel] Re: sage -upgrade

2008-02-05 Thread philt
> > Is the problem you are solving that with the current situation, > > you and sage-support) get too many silly build questions? > Yes. If it's easier to support a full install from sources from scratch than to support planned upgrades (we're not talking about release candidates here), it only d

[sage-devel] Re: sage -upgrade

2008-02-05 Thread William Stein
On Feb 5, 2008 9:10 AM, David Joyner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Is the problem you are solving that with the current situation, > you and sage-support) get too many silly build questions? Yes. > In any case, I vote to not make the command longer > ("-upgrade" -> "-devel_upgrade" but shorter

[sage-devel] Re: sage -upgrade

2008-02-05 Thread David Joyner
Is the problem you are solving that with the current situation, you and sage-support) get too many silly build questions? In any case, I vote to not make the command longer ("-upgrade" -> "-devel_upgrade" but shorter ("-upgrade" -> "-u"), because I am lazy:-). On Feb 5, 2008 11:59 AM, William S

[sage-devel] sage -upgrade

2008-02-05 Thread William Stein
Hi, I would like to propose again that we deprecate the sage -upgrade functionality for "normal end users". It was definitely never meant to be used by anybody but developers -- in fact I wrote it mainly for David Kohel (an early Sage developer) who lived in Australia and consequentl

[sage-devel] Re: Error Upgrading to 2.10.1 / mpfi / Mac OS X 10.5.1

2008-02-05 Thread gordyt
Thanks for the quick feedback Dr. Stein. I did as you asked. I received a similar error when doing the upgrade after the gmp build. I posted the entire output of both commands here, in case that might be helpful: http://www.gordontillman.info/html/tmp/sage_upgrade_1.html --gordy --~--~-

[sage-devel] Re: Sage 2.10.1 released

2008-02-05 Thread Burcin Erocal
On Tue, 05 Feb 2008 09:06:57 -0600 Jason Grout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Burcin Erocal wrote: > Can we add the tuning information extraction to the spkg script or > somewhere that we can just type one command in (sage -tuning or > something) and get a tar file we can upload? I can see this

[sage-devel] Re: Sage 2.10.1 released

2008-02-05 Thread Jason Grout
Burcin Erocal wrote: > On Sun, 3 Feb 2008 07:59:18 -0800 (PST) > mabshoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >> The key issue is that ATLAS's tolerance was exceeded and the build >> failed. This is a known issue, i.e. #1641, and will be fixed in >> 2.10.2. I didn't have time in the end to fix it, so

[sage-devel] Re: Sage 2.10.1 released

2008-02-05 Thread Burcin Erocal
On Sun, 3 Feb 2008 07:59:18 -0800 (PST) mabshoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The key issue is that ATLAS's tolerance was exceeded and the build > failed. This is a known issue, i.e. #1641, and will be fixed in > 2.10.2. I didn't have time in the end to fix it, so sorry. Restarting > the build o

[sage-devel] Re: Error Upgrading to 2.10.1 / mpfi / Mac OS X 10.5.1

2008-02-05 Thread William Stein
On Feb 5, 2008 6:24 AM, gordyt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Greetings All! > > I tried to update my existing sage installation via sage -upgrade. > Everything seemed to go smoothly until near the end when I received > the error shown below. Could you try forcing a rebuild of gmp, then restart t

[sage-devel] Error Upgrading to 2.10.1 / mpfi / Mac OS X 10.5.1

2008-02-05 Thread gordyt
Greetings All! I tried to update my existing sage installation via sage -upgrade. Everything seemed to go smoothly until near the end when I received the error shown below. One thing caught my eye: -- libtool: link: cannot find the library `/Users/was/build/sage-2.10/ local/lib/libgmp.l

[sage-devel] Re: Another Homosexual Fantasy

2008-02-05 Thread David Joyner
I'm very sorry this got through. My fault, as I was half-asleep and clicking buttons too quickly. He has been banned and the message removed from the archives. - David Joyner On Feb 5, 2008 6:51 AM, uzmar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Another Homosexual Fantasy > by SkinDiver > > > I posted a me

[sage-devel] Another Homosexual Fantasy

2008-02-05 Thread uzmar
Another Homosexual Fantasy by SkinDiver I posted a message about fellating other men and I also think about being sodomized bareback by many, many men - one after the other. My p*nis gets so hard when I think about being the object of mens pleasure. Do any other men ever feel this way? Does anyo