[sage-devel] Re: sage 2.10 experimental ebuild for Gentoo

2008-01-20 Thread mabshoff
On Jan 21, 8:48 am, Francois <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Jan 21, 12:36 pm, mabshoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > LICENSE="GPL-2" > > > should be "GPL-2 or later" or whatever the Gentoo equivalent of that > > is. > > I checked other ebuilds and it seems that the policy is to report only >

[sage-devel] Re: sage 2.10 experimental ebuild for Gentoo

2008-01-20 Thread Francois
On Jan 21, 12:36 pm, mabshoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED] dortmund.de> wrote: >> > LICENSE="GPL-2" > > should be "GPL-2 or later" or whatever the Gentoo equivalent of that > is. > I checked other ebuilds and it seems that the policy is to report only GPL-2 unless there are exceptions attached. I am not s

[sage-devel] Re: Confusing Possible GPL & CC Conflict

2008-01-20 Thread Justin C. Walker
On Jan 20, 2008, at 23:22 , William Stein wrote: > > On Jan 20, 2008 11:18 PM, Justin C. Walker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> >> >> On Jan 20, 2008, at 23:00 , William Stein wrote: >> >>> >>> On Jan 20, 2008 10:58 PM, William Stein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Jan 20, 2008 10:50 PM, Tim

[sage-devel] Re: SAGE in RPM form

2008-01-20 Thread Francois
Congratulations! Was my last message to you of any use? Cheers, Francois On Jan 20, 5:46 am, gri6507 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > As I've posted here before, I have been working on packaging up SAGE > into an RPM form. Well, I am happy to say that I finally have > something that (seems to) works

[sage-devel] Re: SAGE in RPM form

2008-01-20 Thread William Stein
On Jan 19, 2008 8:46 AM, gri6507 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > As I've posted here before, I have been working on packaging up SAGE > into an RPM form. Well, I am happy to say that I finally have > something that (seems to) works. If anyone here has the ability and > the spare time to test out th

[sage-devel] Re: Confusing Possible GPL & CC Conflict

2008-01-20 Thread William Stein
On Jan 20, 2008 11:18 PM, Justin C. Walker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > On Jan 20, 2008, at 23:00 , William Stein wrote: > > > > > On Jan 20, 2008 10:58 PM, William Stein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> On Jan 20, 2008 10:50 PM, Timothy Clemans > >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>> > >>> The

[sage-devel] Re: http://wiki.sagemath.org/experimental_packages_available_for_SAGE

2008-01-20 Thread William Stein
On Jan 20, 2008 6:05 AM, Jaap Spies <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > William Stein wrote: > > On Jan 19, 2008 3:51 PM, Jaap Spies <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Michael.Abshoff wrote: > [...] > >>> I would suggest that we add a mechanism for optional/experimental spkgs > >>> to install other compon

[sage-devel] Re: Confusing Possible GPL & CC Conflict

2008-01-20 Thread Justin C. Walker
On Jan 20, 2008, at 23:00 , William Stein wrote: > > On Jan 20, 2008 10:58 PM, William Stein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> On Jan 20, 2008 10:50 PM, Timothy Clemans >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> >>> The message that started this is >>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Possibly_unfree

[sage-devel] Re: Confusing Possible GPL & CC Conflict

2008-01-20 Thread mabshoff
On Jan 21, 8:00 am, "William Stein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Jan 20, 2008 10:58 PM, William Stein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Jan 20, 2008 10:50 PM, Timothy Clemans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > The message that started this is > > >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Poss

[sage-devel] Re: MPolynomialRing.__str__

2008-01-20 Thread William Stein
On Jan 20, 2008 2:58 PM, Nick Alexander <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On 20-Jan-08, at 2:47 PM, Simon King wrote: > > > > > Dear Nick > > > > On Jan 20, 8:24 pm, Nick Alexander <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> I've always hated that x/y and print x/y can do different things at > >> the prompt, b

[sage-devel] Re: generator inconsistencies in finite fields

2008-01-20 Thread William Stein
On Jan 20, 2008 10:54 PM, Jonathan Bober <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I don't like the behavior illustrated below. Briefly, my problem is that > GF(p).gen() gives a generator for the additive group of GF(5), while > GF(p^n).gen() gives a generator for for multiplicative group of GF(p^n) > (n > 1

[sage-devel] Re: Online free sage notebook slowness

2008-01-20 Thread William Stein
On Jan 20, 2008 10:56 PM, Timothy Clemans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > That worked. Did you do anything? No. The problem is that -- as has been discussed a lot already -- java applets are unfortunately rather flaky. In particular, each time you display a 3d plot in Sage it loads a jmol java

[sage-devel] Re: Confusing Possible GPL & CC Conflict

2008-01-20 Thread William Stein
On Jan 20, 2008 10:58 PM, William Stein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Jan 20, 2008 10:50 PM, Timothy Clemans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > The message that started this is > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Possibly_unfree_images/2008_January_21#Image:Sagecontourplot.png > > > > If

[sage-devel] Re: Confusing Possible GPL & CC Conflict

2008-01-20 Thread William Stein
On Jan 20, 2008 10:50 PM, Timothy Clemans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > The message that started this is > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Possibly_unfree_images/2008_January_21#Image:Sagecontourplot.png > > If this person's is right that you can't release a screenshot of the > Sage Notebo

[sage-devel] Re: Online free sage notebook slowness

2008-01-20 Thread Timothy Clemans
That worked. Did you do anything? On Jan 20, 10:54 pm, "William Stein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Jan 20, 2008 10:44 PM, Timothy Clemans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > I'm just getting the black box with the JMOL logo. > > Try restarting your web browser and using Firefox. > > > On Jan

[sage-devel] generator inconsistencies in finite fields

2008-01-20 Thread Jonathan Bober
I don't like the behavior illustrated below. Briefly, my problem is that GF(p).gen() gives a generator for the additive group of GF(5), while GF(p^n).gen() gives a generator for for multiplicative group of GF(p^n) (n > 1). I would file this 'complaint' directly as a trac bug report, but the docum

[sage-devel] Re: Online free sage notebook slowness

2008-01-20 Thread William Stein
On Jan 20, 2008 10:44 PM, Timothy Clemans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I'm just getting the black box with the JMOL logo. > Try restarting your web browser and using Firefox. > On Jan 20, 10:35 pm, "William Stein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Jan 20, 2008 10:09 PM, Timothy Clemans <[EMAIL

[sage-devel] Confusing Possible GPL & CC Conflict

2008-01-20 Thread Timothy Clemans
The message that started this is http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Possibly_unfree_images/2008_January_21#Image:Sagecontourplot.png If this person's is right that you can't release a screenshot of the Sage Notebook under a CC license then I'm worried that the Sage documentation can't actuall

[sage-devel] Re: Online free sage notebook slowness

2008-01-20 Thread Timothy Clemans
I'm just getting the black box with the JMOL logo. On Jan 20, 10:35 pm, "William Stein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Jan 20, 2008 10:09 PM, Timothy Clemans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Interactive 3d plotting isn't working on the public notebook but does > > work on my personal noteboo

[sage-devel] Re: Online free sage notebook slowness

2008-01-20 Thread William Stein
On Jan 20, 2008 10:09 PM, Timothy Clemans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Interactive 3d plotting isn't working on the public notebook but does > work on my personal notebooks on sage.math. It works fine for me. What error message are you getting? -- William --~--~-~--~~---

[sage-devel] Re: Online free sage notebook slowness

2008-01-20 Thread Timothy Clemans
Interactive 3d plotting isn't working on the public notebook but does work on my personal notebooks on sage.math. On Jan 20, 9:22 pm, "William Stein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > This email is about the free public online Sage notebook server: >https://www.sagenb.org > > I think I jus

[sage-devel] Online free sage notebook slowness

2008-01-20 Thread William Stein
Hi, This email is about the free public online Sage notebook server: https://www.sagenb.org I think I just fixed some scalability issues that were responsible for the online free Sage notebook server feel vastly slower than it should have. Let me know what your experience is like with it n

[sage-devel] Re: German Sage Introduction

2008-01-20 Thread Alfredo Portes
On Jan 20, 2008 8:37 PM, mabshoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Restarting it as suggested by William did teh trick. Note that instead > of LaTeX we no use jsmath fonts. Thanks. I think links to these introductions in different languages should be in the main page or in the frontpage of the wiki.

[sage-devel] Re: German Sage Introduction

2008-01-20 Thread mabshoff
On Jan 21, 2:11 am, mabshoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED] dortmund.de> wrote: > On Jan 21, 2:05 am, "Alfredo Portes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Thank you David. > > > Is the wiki down? > > Looks like it ... investigating. Restarting it as suggested by William did teh trick. Note that instead of LaT

[sage-devel] Re: German Sage Introduction

2008-01-20 Thread mabshoff
On Jan 21, 2:05 am, "Alfredo Portes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Thank you David. > > Is the wiki down? > Looks like it ... investigating. Cheers, Michael --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To post to this group, send email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe fro

[sage-devel] Re: German Sage Introduction

2008-01-20 Thread Alfredo Portes
Thank you David. Is the wiki down? On Jan 20, 2008 5:38 PM, David Joyner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > It's at > http://wiki.sagemath.org/A_short_introduction_to_SAGE > I updated it a bit a few days ago but it could use more editing. > > > On Jan 20, 2008 2:51 PM, Alfredo Portes <[EMAIL PROTECT

[sage-devel] Re: sage 2.10 experimental ebuild for Gentoo

2008-01-20 Thread Francois
On Jan 21, 12:36 pm, mabshoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED] dortmund.de> wrote: > On Jan 21, 12:15 am, Francois <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Hi, > > > this is to point people interested in testing things on Gentoo towards > > the ebuild I just posted in > > bug#201321http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cg

[sage-devel] Re: sage 2.10 experimental ebuild for Gentoo

2008-01-20 Thread mabshoff
On Jan 21, 12:15 am, Francois <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > this is to point people interested in testing things on Gentoo towards > the ebuild I just posted in > bug#201321http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=201321 Looks nice, but: LICENSE="GPL-2" should be "GPL-2 or later" or wha

[sage-devel] sage 2.10 experimental ebuild for Gentoo

2008-01-20 Thread Francois
Hi, this is to point people interested in testing things on Gentoo towards the ebuild I just posted in bug#201321 http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=201321 It compiles and install. I still chicken on using any python related packages provided by portage over the sage ones. It currently fails

[sage-devel] Re: MPolynomialRing.__str__

2008-01-20 Thread Nick Alexander
On 20-Jan-08, at 2:47 PM, Simon King wrote: > > Dear Nick > > On Jan 20, 8:24 pm, Nick Alexander <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> I've always hated that x/y and print x/y can do different things at >> the prompt, but it sounds like I'm fighting a losing battle. > > Sorry for coming into your discus

[sage-devel] Re: MPolynomialRing.__str__

2008-01-20 Thread Simon King
Dear Nick On Jan 20, 8:24 pm, Nick Alexander <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I've always hated that x/y and print x/y can do different things at > the prompt, but it sounds like I'm fighting a losing battle. Sorry for coming into your discussion. I actually appreciate that x/y and print x/y do diff

[sage-devel] Re: German Sage Introduction

2008-01-20 Thread David Joyner
It's at http://wiki.sagemath.org/A_short_introduction_to_SAGE I updated it a bit a few days ago but it could use more editing. On Jan 20, 2008 2:51 PM, Alfredo Portes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Jan 20, 2008 2:25 PM, Alfredo Portes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Same can be said for http://

[sage-devel] Re: MPolynomialRing.__str__

2008-01-20 Thread William Stein
On Jan 20, 2008 1:18 PM, Martin Albrecht <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I've always hated that x/y and print x/y can do different things at > > the prompt, but it sounds like I'm fighting a losing battle. > > > > Can someone (malb?) briefly document what the Sage standard for str > > and repr sh

[sage-devel] Re: Sage 2.10.1.alpha0 released

2008-01-20 Thread Nick Alexander
>> >> Jaap > > Thanks Jaap for testing *every* release :) Yes, thanks Jaap! Your contribution is very important. Nick --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To post to this group, send email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROT

[sage-devel] Re: MPolynomialRing.__str__

2008-01-20 Thread Martin Albrecht
> I've always hated that x/y and print x/y can do different things at > the prompt, but it sounds like I'm fighting a losing battle. > > Can someone (malb?) briefly document what the Sage standard for str > and repr should be, so we can start updating the code? > > Thanks! > Nick Hi, I can write

[sage-devel] Re: Experimental packages cleanup

2008-01-20 Thread mabshoff
On Jan 20, 9:24 pm, Jaap Spies <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > mabshoff wrote: > > On Jan 20, 7:29 pm, Jaap Spies <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Hi Jaap, > > >> There are two main entrances to the Experimental Packages: > > >>http://wiki.sagemath.org/experimental_packages_available_for_SAGE > > >

[sage-devel] Re: trac naming convention for patches and bundles

2008-01-20 Thread mabshoff
On Jan 20, 8:50 pm, Jaap Spies <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Nick Alexander wrote: Hi, > > On 20-Jan-08, at 9:18 AM, Jaap Spies wrote: > >> Maybe it's a good thing to have a naming convention, say I am not to big a fan of this since I keep all my open source patches in another place and I do pre

[sage-devel] Re: Experimental packages cleanup

2008-01-20 Thread Jaap Spies
mabshoff wrote: > On Jan 20, 7:29 pm, Jaap Spies <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi Jaap, > >> There are two main entrances to the Experimental Packages: >> >> http://wiki.sagemath.org/experimental_packages_available_for_SAGE >> >> and >> >> http://www.sagemath.org/packages/experimental/ >> >> Th

[sage-devel] Re: Sage 2.10.1.alpha0 released

2008-01-20 Thread mabshoff
On Jan 20, 7:07 pm, Jaap Spies <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > mabshoff wrote: > > Hello folks, Hi Jaap, > [...] > > > The tarball [201MB] is available at > > >http://sage.math.washington.edu/home/mabshoff/release-cycles-2.10.1/s... > > File "tut.py", line 3574: > : factor(f) > Expected: >

[sage-devel] Re: Experimental packages cleanup

2008-01-20 Thread mabshoff
On Jan 20, 7:29 pm, Jaap Spies <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi Jaap, > There are two main entrances to the Experimental Packages: > > http://wiki.sagemath.org/experimental_packages_available_for_SAGE > > and > > http://www.sagemath.org/packages/experimental/ > > They seem to be out of sync. Yep.

[sage-devel] Re: German Sage Introduction

2008-01-20 Thread Alfredo Portes
On Jan 20, 2008 2:25 PM, Alfredo Portes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Same can be said for http://wiki.sagemath.org/SAGE-intro-Spanish Can anyone tell me where is the English version of this document if there is one. Thank you, Alfredo --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To po

[sage-devel] Re: trac naming convention for patches and bundles

2008-01-20 Thread Jaap Spies
Nick Alexander wrote: > > On 20-Jan-08, at 9:18 AM, Jaap Spies wrote: >> Maybe it's a good thing to have a naming convention, say > > I think so. I always attach my name, because I find it helps me keep > track of what I have been involved in and helps attribute patches. > You can always a

[sage-devel] Re: trac naming convention for patches and bundles

2008-01-20 Thread Nick Alexander
On 20-Jan-08, at 9:18 AM, Jaap Spies wrote: > > Hi, > > I see a lot of variation in naming: > > 1746.patch > 1653.hg > trac-1855.patch > trac_1715.patch > trac_1485_matrix-group_reverse_.patch > > Maybe it's a good thing to have a naming convention, say I think so. I always attach my name, bec

[sage-devel] Re: German Sage Introduction

2008-01-20 Thread Alfredo Portes
Same can be said for http://wiki.sagemath.org/SAGE-intro-Spanish I did not know William's name in spanish is Guillermo :-), or is Guillermo somebody in the project? It reminds me of this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dGXr4uOnBrw Anyways, I will try to improve the page. Regards, Alfredo On

[sage-devel] Re: MPolynomialRing.__str__

2008-01-20 Thread Nick Alexander
On 20-Jan-08, at 9:27 AM, Martin Albrecht wrote: > > On Sunday 20 January 2008, didier deshommes wrote: >> On Jan 20, 2008 11:20 AM, Martin Albrecht <[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> bremen.de> > wrote: >>> Hi there, >>> >>> I've submitted the patch >>> >>>http://trac.sagemath.org/sage_trac/ticket/1816

[sage-devel] Re: German Sage Introduction

2008-01-20 Thread Harald Schilly
On Jan 18, 2:07 pm, "David Joyner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > .. but > if someone wants > to re-edit or even remove it, it won't bother me. I've rewritten a lot to break it down to the most important facts first and then three sub-pages for more information about installation and usage. I think

[sage-devel] Experimental packages cleanup

2008-01-20 Thread Jaap Spies
There are two main entrances to the Experimental Packages: http://wiki.sagemath.org/experimental_packages_available_for_SAGE and http://www.sagemath.org/packages/experimental/ They seem to be out of sync. If you are an active maintainer of one or more experimental packages, please step forwar

[sage-devel] Re: Sage 2.10.1.alpha0 released

2008-01-20 Thread Jaap Spies
mabshoff wrote: > Hello folks, > [...] > > The tarball [201MB] is available at > > http://sage.math.washington.edu/home/mabshoff/release-cycles-2.10.1/sage-2.10.1.alpha0.tar > File "tut.py", line 3574: : factor(f) Expected: 9 * (-x^5 + y^2)^2 * (x^6 - 2*x^3*y^2 - x^2*y^3 + y^4) Got:

[sage-devel] Re: MPolynomialRing.__str__

2008-01-20 Thread Martin Albrecht
On Sunday 20 January 2008, didier deshommes wrote: > On Jan 20, 2008 11:20 AM, Martin Albrecht <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi there, > > > > I've submitted the patch > > > >http://trac.sagemath.org/sage_trac/ticket/1816 > > > > to trac and Nick refereed it. The patch implements that if a m

[sage-devel] trac naming convention for patches and bundles

2008-01-20 Thread Jaap Spies
Hi, I see a lot of variation in naming: 1746.patch 1653.hg trac-1855.patch trac_1715.patch trac_1485_matrix-group_reverse_.patch Maybe it's a good thing to have a naming convention, say trac-number[-extra].patch for a trac related patch and trac-number[-extra].hg for a trac related bundle Wha

[sage-devel] Re: MPolynomialRing.__str__

2008-01-20 Thread didier deshommes
On Jan 20, 2008 11:20 AM, Martin Albrecht <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi there, > > I've submitted the patch > >http://trac.sagemath.org/sage_trac/ticket/1816 > > to trac and Nick refereed it. The patch implements that if a multivariate > polynomial ring is 'print'ed the output is quite ver

[sage-devel] Re: Sage 2.10.alpha notebook problem

2008-01-20 Thread bill purvis
On Saturday 19 January 2008, Jason Grout wrote: > bill.p wrote: > > Further info: I've retried it a large number of times and it only > > happens occasionally. > > It's not related to any particular cell or content as I have seen it > > on several > > different cells during this testing. > > I man

[sage-devel] Re: MPolynomialRing.__str__

2008-01-20 Thread William Stein
On Jan 20, 2008 8:20 AM, Martin Albrecht <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi there, > > I've submitted the patch > >http://trac.sagemath.org/sage_trac/ticket/1816 > > to trac and Nick refereed it. The patch implements that if a multivariate > polynomial ring is 'print'ed the output is quite verb

[sage-devel] MPolynomialRing.__str__

2008-01-20 Thread Martin Albrecht
Hi there, I've submitted the patch http://trac.sagemath.org/sage_trac/ticket/1816 to trac and Nick refereed it. The patch implements that if a multivariate polynomial ring is 'print'ed the output is quite verbose and structured. This behavior was in repr_long() before. EXAMPLE: {{{ sage:

[sage-devel] Re: http://wiki.sagemath.org/experimental_packages_available_for_SAGE

2008-01-20 Thread Jaap Spies
William Stein wrote: > On Jan 19, 2008 3:51 PM, Jaap Spies <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Michael.Abshoff wrote: [...] >>> I would suggest that we add a mechanism for optional/experimental spkgs >>> to install other components like cmake. >>> >> cmake is only needed to build vtk, but generally spok