Re: [Idr] Tunnel-Encap Gaps for SD-WAN described in draft-ietf-rtgwg-net2cloud-gap-analysis-02.txt

2019-06-26 Thread John Scudder
Linda, John, Your discussion is premised on the assumption that the remote endpoint sub-TLV is optional. Consider this paragraph, from section 5: When the Tunnel Encapsulation attribute is carried in an UPDATE of one of the AFI/SAFIs specified in the previous paragraph, each TLV MUST h

Re: [Idr] Tunnel-Encap Gaps for SD-WAN described in draft-ietf-rtgwg-net2cloud-gap-analysis-02.txt

2019-06-26 Thread John Scudder
(As a WG member. I don’t speak from any authority, other than “a person who has read the spec several times and worked with implementors”.) > On Jun 26, 2019, at 2:46 PM, Linda Dunbar wrote: > > John and the Tunnel-Encap authors: > > The following text on page 9 of Section 3.1 states that Rem

Re: [Idr] Tunnel-Encap Gaps for SD-WAN described in draft-ietf-rtgwg-net2cloud-gap-analysis-02.txt

2019-06-26 Thread John Scudder
On Jun 26, 2019, at 2:55 PM, Robert Raszuk mailto:rob...@raszuk.net>> wrote: There is nothing in the spec however which would stop basic recursion to work including recursion via next hop which can be reached via some form of encapsulation. Agreed. —John _

Re: [Idr] Tunnel-Encap Gaps for SD-WAN described in draft-ietf-rtgwg-net2cloud-gap-analysis-02.txt

2019-06-26 Thread John Scudder
(Still as an individual contributor of course.) On Jun 26, 2019, at 4:02 PM, Linda Dunbar mailto:linda.dun...@futurewei.com>> wrote: [Linda] Your statement is indeed much clearer. Thank you. You are welcome. When a Node-A constructs this Tunnel-Encap UPDATE for routes attached to Node-A, does

Re: [Idr] Tunnel-Encap Gaps for SD-WAN described in draft-ietf-rtgwg-net2cloud-gap-analysis-02.txt

2019-06-26 Thread John Scudder
On Jun 26, 2019, at 4:32 PM, Robert Raszuk wrote: > > I can think of even more basic example .. when UPDATE crosses EBGP boundary > between N number of ASes. Next hop field will be rewritten while tunnel > endpoint will stay. For example for the purpose of providing end to end > transport any

Re: [Idr] Tunnel-Encap Gaps for SD-WAN described in draft-ietf-rtgwg-net2cloud-gap-analysis-02.txt

2019-06-26 Thread John Scudder
really want to have this behavior? Having it optional would give us a lot more flexibility and I thought an attribute was supposed to be associated with a route. Making the Remote Endpoint sub-TLV mandatory effectively associates the attribute with the remote endpoint. Yours Irrespecti

Re: [Idr] Tunnel-Encap Gaps for SD-WAN described in draft-ietf-rtgwg-net2cloud-gap-analysis-02.txt

2019-06-28 Thread John Scudder
On Jun 28, 2019, at 2:40 AM, Ali Sajassi (sajassi) wrote: > > Tunnel-Encap draft also provides an example of such recursiveness in section > 7. Oh, right, of course. Thanks for pointing that out. —John ___ rtgwg mailing list rtgwg@ietf.org https://ww

Re: [Idr] IPR Disclosure Juniper Networks, Inc.'s Statement about IPR related to draft-hu-rtgwg-srv6-egress-protection

2020-03-05 Thread John Scudder
Heh. Thanks for pointing that out, I’ve forwarded it to Juniper’s legal department to get the typo corrected if that’s possible. —John On Mar 5, 2020, at 3:04 PM, Robert Raszuk mailto:rob...@raszuk.net>> wrote: The IPR title starts: REDUNDANT PSEUDOWIRES FOR BORDER GATEWAY PATROL-BASED ...

Re: RtgDir review: draft-ietf-rtgwg-policy-model-16

2020-07-06 Thread John Scudder
ks, Yingzhen From: John Scudder mailto:j...@juniper.net>> Date: Tuesday, June 30, 2020 at 11:14 AM To: "rtg-...@ietf.org<mailto:rtg-...@ietf.org>" mailto:rtg-...@ietf.org>> Cc: "rtg-...@ietf.org<mailto:rtg-...@ietf.org>" mailto:rtg-...@ietf.org>>,

Re: [RTG-DIR] RtgDir review: draft-ietf-rtgwg-policy-model-16

2020-07-07 Thread John Scudder
On Jul 7, 2020, at 11:35 AM, John G. Scudder wrote:  Hi Acee, On Jul 7, 2020, at 11:16 AM, Acee Lindem (acee) wrote: Yes. I’d say we should just use the ip-prefix type from RFC 6021. This type has the right semantics. However, I’m wondering how we do the mask-length-lower checking with the

Re: [RTG-DIR] RtgDir review: draft-ietf-rtgwg-policy-model-16

2020-07-07 Thread John Scudder
needs to be verified against mask-length. Any comments and suggestions are welcome. Thanks, Yingzhen From: John Scudder Date: Tuesday, July 7, 2020 at 9:06 AM To: "John G. Scudder" Cc: "Acee Lindem (acee)" , Yingzhen Qu , "rtg-...@ietf.org" , "rtg-...@ie

Re: John Scudder's Discuss on draft-ietf-rtgwg-segment-routing-ti-lfa-13: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)

2024-04-16 Thread John Scudder
While reviewing a different document that uses a similar “aims at“ construction, it occurred to me that, On Apr 16, 2024, at 4:14 PM, John Scudder via Datatracker wrote: Segment Routing aims at supporting services with tight SLA guarantees [RFC8402]. … If you had written this slightly

Re: John Scudder's Discuss on draft-ietf-rtgwg-segment-routing-ti-lfa-13: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)

2024-05-22 Thread John Scudder
714. On May 12, 2024, at 11:02 PM, Ahmed Bashandy wrote: Thanks for the thorough review I am in the process of uploading version 15 of the document. So whenever I say "fixed", "changed", "modified",..., etc, I am referring to version 15 See inline comments

[rtgwg] Re: New Version Notification for draft-ietf-rtgwg-segment-routing-ti-lfa-18.txt

2024-11-15 Thread John Scudder
Hi Ketan, On Nov 15, 2024, at 9:48 AM, Ketan Talaulikar wrote: I believe my text proposals do not dilute the post-convergence aspect of TI-LFA. Please let me know if you see it otherwise. No argument. I was harking back to the debate I addressed at (probably too much) length in my message to

[rtgwg] Re: New Version Notification for draft-ietf-rtgwg-segment-routing-ti-lfa-18.txt

2024-11-15 Thread John Scudder
types of protection schemes and failures. This is nothing new. Thanks, Ketan On Fri, Nov 15, 2024 at 7:51 PM John Scudder mailto:j...@juniper.net>> wrote: [trimmed cc; presumably copying the WG is sufficient] Hi Ketan, Can you help me understand what you’re driving toward with this comme

[rtgwg] Re: New Version Notification for draft-ietf-rtgwg-segment-routing-ti-lfa-18.txt

2024-11-15 Thread John Scudder
[trimmed cc; presumably copying the WG is sufficient] Hi Ketan, Can you help me understand what you’re driving toward with this comment? On Nov 15, 2024, at 5:44 AM, Ketan Talaulikar wrote: In addition to the above text change suggestions, I would remind that strict following of post-converge

[rtgwg] Re: New Version Notification for draft-ietf-rtgwg-segment-routing-ti-lfa-18.txt

2024-11-14 Thread John Scudder
Hi Ahmed, Thanks for the update. I read the diff, and I listened to the recording of your rtgwg presentation. I've written a long message. For convenience, the bottom line (TL;DR as it were) is that I think the conversation that was started with Stewart and Sasha at the mic line at IETF-121 ne

[rtgwg] Re: New Version Notification for draft-ietf-rtgwg-segment-routing-ti-lfa-18.txt

2024-11-15 Thread John Scudder
Hi Ketan, On Nov 15, 2024, at 10:23 AM, Ketan Talaulikar wrote: Below is an additional text proposal (over and above what I have shared previously) to cover, what I think, may be the essence of your discuss. It is possible though that I've still missed your point. As I mentioned in my earlier

[rtgwg] Re: Errata 8002 for RFC 8678

2025-03-06 Thread John Scudder
On Sat, Feb 22, 2025 at 8:41 AM John Scudder mailto:j...@juniper.net>> wrote: Hi RFC 8678 Authors, RTGWG, Alexander Patrakov filed https://www.rfc-editor.org/errata/eid8002<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.rfc-editor.org/errata/eid8002__;!!NEt6

[rtgwg] Errata 8002 for RFC 8678

2025-02-21 Thread John Scudder
Hi RFC 8678 Authors, RTGWG, Alexander Patrakov filed https://www.rfc-editor.org/errata/eid8002 against RFC 8678. I don’t see any reply to the erratum in the archives. I’m hoping one of you can comment. In looking at the erratum, my first inclination is to reject it, although there is also a cas

John Scudder's No Objection on draft-ietf-rtgwg-policy-model-30: (with COMMENT)

2021-08-11 Thread John Scudder via Datatracker
John Scudder has entered the following ballot position for draft-ietf-rtgwg-policy-model-30: No Objection When responding, please keep the subject line intact and reply to all email addresses included in the To and CC lines. (Feel free to cut this introductory paragraph, however.) Please refer

John Scudder's No Objection on draft-ietf-rtgwg-yang-rib-extend-18: (with COMMENT)

2023-05-22 Thread John Scudder via Datatracker
John Scudder has entered the following ballot position for draft-ietf-rtgwg-yang-rib-extend-18: No Objection When responding, please keep the subject line intact and reply to all email addresses included in the To and CC lines. (Feel free to cut this introductory paragraph, however.) Please

John Scudder's No Objection on draft-ietf-rtgwg-vrrp-rfc5798bis-17: (with COMMENT)

2024-01-03 Thread John Scudder via Datatracker
John Scudder has entered the following ballot position for draft-ietf-rtgwg-vrrp-rfc5798bis-17: No Objection When responding, please keep the subject line intact and reply to all email addresses included in the To and CC lines. (Feel free to cut this introductory paragraph, however.) Please

John Scudder's Discuss on draft-ietf-rtgwg-segment-routing-ti-lfa-13: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)

2024-04-16 Thread John Scudder via Datatracker
John Scudder has entered the following ballot position for draft-ietf-rtgwg-segment-routing-ti-lfa-13: Discuss When responding, please keep the subject line intact and reply to all email addresses included in the To and CC lines. (Feel free to cut this introductory paragraph, however.) Please

John Scudder's Discuss on draft-ietf-rtgwg-net2cloud-problem-statement-41: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)

2024-09-18 Thread John Scudder via Datatracker
John Scudder has entered the following ballot position for draft-ietf-rtgwg-net2cloud-problem-statement-41: Discuss When responding, please keep the subject line intact and reply to all email addresses included in the To and CC lines. (Feel free to cut this introductory paragraph, however