On 10/2/07, Peter Salameh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Thanks for that. Doesn't the delta-transfer algorithm compare the files
> on sender and receiver?
Correct.
> For the file list, we would only need compare the
> new file list with the last one on the sender
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On 10/1/07, Suresh Govindachar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 1) consider the message:
>
> 2007/09/13 16:50:52 [13688] receiving file list
>
> Isn't the list of files determined from the command line used to
> invoke rsync? So what this new list of files that are being
> receiv
On 10/1/07, Suresh Govindachar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> In regard to output, rsync has the following features:
> Where can I find an explanation of the format, content
> and interpretation of the outputs (a-e)?
> a) -v option with various levels of verbosity
Roughly, here is what
On 10/1/07, Matt McCutchen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> If the remote filesystem supports efficient copying of a range of data
> from one offset to another, then #2 is moot and a smart client can do
> both pushes and pulls efficiently using your scheme and zsync's
> "reverse" delta-transfer algorit
On 9/30/07, Stephen Zemlicka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> OK, let's say this is the first sync and every file is being transferred.
> The checksum for each of the files is cached on the local drive. Then, the
> next time you sync, it checks the checksum from the cache against the file
> to be copi
On 10/1/07, Steve Radich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Wouldn't robocopy better serve these EXACT needs? It doesn't handle
> partial file transfers, but neither will rsync given that you are
> running it only on one end - I.e. to calculate the crc to compare the
> files contents it would have to rea
On 10/1/07, Stephen Zemlicka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Let's get terminology out of the way first. The computer
> sending data is the client and the computer storing the backups is the
> server.
No, you may be pushing, but Havoc is pulling. Look at the command in
the original message:
> I am
On 10/1/07, Stephen Zemlicka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I thought it was supposed to do it more effeciently
Not that I know of. (Wayne, please correct me if necessary.)
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On 9/25/07, Sylvain Viart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> As I said, Protect and Hide, are not "really" documented. It's only said in
> the doc :
>
> hide, H specifies a pattern for hiding files from the transfer.
You're right that that line is not enough to thoroughly explain hide
filters. However
I thought it was supposed to do it more effeciently
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On 10/1/07, Stephen Zemlicka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I think the next release is supposed to speed this up.
Are you thinking of incremental recursion? It interleaves file list
and file data transmission but does not decrease the total amount of
file-list data sent.
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I think the next release is supposed to speed this up.
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On 10/1/07, Peter Salameh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Has the rsync team considered an rsync option which would remember the
> last file list on both ends, and only send changes to the list?
Perhaps a more natural approach is to use the delta-transfer algorithm
to send the file list. Jamie Lokie
Hello,
This is my first posting to the rsync list. I mirror a database
containing directories which contain a very large number of files (say
30,000), and sending the file list can often take longer than transferring
the new files.(Rsync ends up sending nearly the same file list on
every tran
If somebody is interesting to create this gui, let me know
Try NasBackup It have rsync GUI.
http://www.NasBackup.com/
Delta Copy unfortunately only works in client/server mode. As I also
need local mode this is no option (though it looks nice). So me too
I still haven't found a simple,
I will run it at both ends if that's what it takes.
On Monday 01 October 2007, Steve Radich wrote:
> Someone more knowledgable in rsync correct me if I'm wrong but..
>
> Wouldn't robocopy better serve these EXACT needs? It doesn't handle
> partial file transfers, but neither will rsync given that
Someone more knowledgable in rsync correct me if I'm wrong but..
Wouldn't robocopy better serve these EXACT needs? It doesn't handle
partial file transfers, but neither will rsync given that you are
running it only on one end - I.e. to calculate the crc to compare the
files contents it would have
Don't a "where's the manual" question buried in a page of text. Keep it
short and concise and then people won't skim to try and help you without
wasting their own time.
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> Stephen Zemlicka wrote:
>
>> RTM
>
> Where is the Manual -- that was the question I asked:
>
> | Where can one find an explanation of the format, content
> | and interpretation of the outputs (a-e)?
where (a-e) refer to:
| So the question remains:
I forgot to mention that my concern with cwrsync is whether or not it is built
with ACL support.
On Monday 01 October 2007, havoc wrote:
> Heh, already found that via:
> http://www.gaztronics.net/rsync.php
>
> On Monday 01 October 2007, Stephen Zemlicka wrote:
> > Check out cwRsync. Should allow
Heh, already found that via:
http://www.gaztronics.net/rsync.php
On Monday 01 October 2007, Stephen Zemlicka wrote:
> Check out cwRsync. Should allow you to install and use rsync without the
> entire cygwin installation.
>
> http://www.itefix.no/phpws/index.php?module=pagemaster&PAGE_user_op=view
Check out cwRsync. Should allow you to install and use rsync without the
entire cygwin installation.
http://www.itefix.no/phpws/index.php?module=pagemaster&PAGE_user_op=view_pag
e&PAGE_id=6&MMN_position=23:23
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Gotta love Google.
http://samba.anu.edu.au/ftp/rsync/rsync.html
http://optics.ph.unimelb.edu.au/help/rsync/rsync.html
http://www.mediacollege.com/cgi-bin/man/page.cgi?topic=rsync
http://www.ss64.com/bash/rsync.html
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Well, I'll try installing cygwin and an rsync daemon on one of the XP
workstations to be backed up later tonight to see if having rsync on both
ends solves the ACL issue. I just can't do it now as the workstations are in
use.
On Monday 01 October 2007, Stephen Zemlicka wrote:
> I'm not sure. I
Stephen Zemlicka wrote:
> RTM
Where is the Manual -- that was the question I asked:
| Where can one find an explanation of the format, content
| and interpretation of the outputs (a-e)?
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I'm not sure. If you can run the daemon on the server, you should. My
situation doesn't allow me to do that but if yours does, you should. If you
initiate the daemon from the client, then I don't believe there's anything
extra running on the server except for during backups.
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> What exactly are you looking for in monitoring it? The -v
> should give you a verbose output. If you want more details, I
> think you can specify multiple -v to give you a more verbose
> output.
As my question indicates, I know the above.
| So the question remains: In regard
Would running an rsync daemon on the client side (using Matt's ACL enabled
rsync) solve my ACL problem?
On Monday 01 October 2007, havoc wrote:
> Yes, mapped drive, "kindof", it's a netbios default share, but essentially
> the same thing.
> I am trying to avoid any situation that requires special
Ah, yes, was a terminology mismatch, I understand now.
On Monday 01 October 2007, Stephen Zemlicka wrote:
> I don't think so. Let's get terminology out of the way first. The
> computer sending data is the client and the computer storing the backups is
> the server. Rsync needs to read the whole
I don't think so. Let's get terminology out of the way first. The computer
sending data is the client and the computer storing the backups is the
server. Rsync needs to read the whole file stored on the server to know
what data the client needs to send. Since you are only running rsync on the
c
Yes, mapped drive, "kindof", it's a netbios default share, but essentially the
same thing.
I am trying to avoid any situation that requires special handling on the
remote (client workstation) side, like additional software to install and
maintain.
On Monday 01 October 2007, Stephen Zemlicka wro
What exactly are you looking for in monitoring it? The -v should give you a
verbose output. If you want more details, I think you can specify multiple
-v to give you a more verbose output.
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Yup, that's what I originally intended but I probably wasn't very clear. So
basically you would add
ROBOCOPY source destination /XO /XN /XC /E /COPY:ATSOU
to run after the rsync finishes.
How are you running rsync with no remote daemon running? Mapped drive? Why
not run the remote daemon, I b
Intriguing, you're saying to use rsync to copy/sync the data, the use robocopy
to only recursively set permissions? Robocopy can do this without
transferring data?
I haven't finished reading all about it yet, but have started with:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robocopy
On Monday 01 October 20
Regarding the recommendation:
> Delta Copy: http://www.aboutmyip.com/AboutMyXApp/DeltaCopy.jsp
> It has a gui already. No need to reinvent the wheel.
I went over the FAQ and the documentation for Delta Copy. Delta
Copy does not provide any means to continually monitor an on-going
rs
On Monday 01 October 2007, Matt McCutchen wrote:
> On 10/1/07, havoc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I am having problems using rsync on cygwin to properly copy the
> > ownership of files from windows to windows.
> > I am running: rsync -avPA //src_addr/some/path /local/dst/path/
> >
> > Based on:
>
I have synced terabytes of data across DSL connections using robocopy with
no problem. Robocopy is just as fast as rsync on whole files and I find it
to be even faster on folders with large numbers of small files (though I
hear the next release of rsync is supposed to speed that up).
However, if
On 10/1/07, havoc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I am having problems using rsync on cygwin to properly copy the
> ownership of files from windows to windows.
> I am running: rsync -avPA //src_addr/some/path /local/dst/path/
>
> Based on:
> http://www.mail-archive.com/rsync@lists.samba.org/msg18920.h
Unfortunately I don't think it will work.
We have two offices in the same corporate park connected by an unreliable
radio backhaul, and several terabytes of data to sync daily, hence my desire
to get rsync working :(
PS: I will definitely check out robocopy for other uses, thank you :)
On Monda
Robocopy does copy only the new or changed files. However it does copy the
whole files (similar to the -W switch in rsync). I use robocopy whenever I
already have a secure connection (VPN) or when my backups don't include
large (multi GB) database files. To see if robocopy will work by itself fo
Does robocopy handle partial transfers, and backups of changed deleted files?
My reason for wanting rsync is to maintain a mirror, and accomplish
incremental backups via --backup --backup-dir= with rsync.
On Monday 01 October 2007, Stephen Zemlicka wrote:
> I have also noticed that permissions ar
I have also noticed that permissions aren't always copied under windows.
I've heard you can use robocopy to do it. I have not because it hasn't been
critical to my operation but supposedly, you can use something like
ROBOCOPY source destination /XO /XN /XC /E /COPY:ATSOU
After the backup script.
I am having problems using rsync on cygwin to properly copy the
ownership of files from windows to windows.
I am running: rsync -avPA //src_addr/some/path /local/dst/path/
Based on:
http://www.mail-archive.com/rsync@lists.samba.org/msg18920.html
and:
http://www.nabble.com/Re:-I-need-rsync-+-acl-su
There are times I use deltacopy locally. I have a couple clients backing up
to removable hard disks with it. Just start the server service on the local
machine. For the server's ip, type in 127.0.0.1 or localhost and you can
backup locally with deltacopy. Deltacopy is the best gui for windows I
At 00:04 01.10.2007 -0500, Robert wrote:
>
>>
>> > Is there some works in the world trying to make a good gui for
>> > rsync and to let all people using this very good method to make
>> > a backup.
>> >
>> > If somebody is interesting to create this gui, let me know
>>
>> --Suresh
>
>De
Get Unison.
Rsync needs to be run twice and isn't that great at mirror syncing.
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> Hey all,
>
> I'm looking into a tw
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