Ah, yes, was a terminology mismatch, I understand now. On Monday 01 October 2007, Stephen Zemlicka wrote: > I don't think so. Let's get terminology out of the way first. The > computer sending data is the client and the computer storing the backups is > the server. Rsync needs to read the whole file stored on the server to > know what data the client needs to send. Since you are only running rsync > on the client, the entire file needs to be transmitted from the server to > the client, then read and analyzed. Then, a partial transfer may occur. > So you can do a partial transfer but before that is possible, the client > needs a full transfer from the server to see what it needs to send. > > _____________________________ > Stephen Zemlicka > Integrated Computer Technologies > PH. 608-558-5926 > E-Mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > -----Original Message----- > From: havoc [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, October 01, 2007 11:54 AM > To: Stephen Zemlicka > Subject: Re: cygwin rsync windows to windows ACL problem > > So even with a mapped drive --partial will have no effect? > Is this cygwin/Windows specific behavior (as it does work on linux)? > > On Monday 01 October 2007, Stephen Zemlicka wrote: > > Remember, if you don't have the rsync daemon running on the remote > > computer, rsync will transfer whole files anyway. I'm working at getting > > around this issue with mapped drives but haven't had a lot of time > > recently > > > to get it ironed out and fully tested. If you are not running rsync on > > the > > > system you are backing up to, rsync will run exactly like robocopy (ie. > > with the -W option). > > > > _____________________________ > > Stephen Zemlicka > > Integrated Computer Technologies > > PH. 608-558-5926 > > E-Mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf > > Of > > > havoc > > Sent: Monday, October 01, 2007 11:46 AM > > To: rsync@lists.samba.org > > Subject: Re: cygwin rsync windows to windows ACL problem > > > > Yes, mapped drive, "kindof", it's a netbios default share, but > > essentially the > > same thing. > > I am trying to avoid any situation that requires special handling on the > > remote (client workstation) side, like additional software to install and > > maintain. > > > > On Monday 01 October 2007, Stephen Zemlicka wrote: > > > Yup, that's what I originally intended but I probably wasn't very > > > clear. So basically you would add > > > > > > ROBOCOPY source destination /XO /XN /XC /E /COPY:ATSOU > > > > > > to run after the rsync finishes. > > > > > > How are you running rsync with no remote daemon running? Mapped drive? > > > Why not run the remote daemon, I believe rsync can even initiate the > > > > remote > > > > > daemon from the client side if you want. (hopefully my terminology is > > > correct there) > > > > > > _____________________________ > > > Stephen Zemlicka > > > Integrated Computer Technologies > > > PH. 608-558-5926 > > > E-Mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > > > Behalf > > > > Of > > > > > havoc > > > Sent: Monday, October 01, 2007 11:28 AM > > > To: rsync@lists.samba.org > > > Subject: Re: cygwin rsync windows to windows ACL problem > > > > > > Intriguing, you're saying to use rsync to copy/sync the data, the use > > > robocopy > > > to only recursively set permissions? Robocopy can do this without > > > transferring data? > > > I haven't finished reading all about it yet, but have started with: > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robocopy > > > > > > On Monday 01 October 2007, Stephen Zemlicka wrote: > > > > I have synced terabytes of data across DSL connections using robocopy > > > > with no problem. Robocopy is just as fast as rsync on whole files > > > > and I find > > > > > > it > > > > > > > to be even faster on folders with large numbers of small files > > > > (though I hear the next release of rsync is supposed to speed that > > > > up). > > > > > > > > However, if you must use rsync, you can still use the robocopy that I > > > > specified earlier. Rsync would be responsible for all the file > > copying > > > > and > > > > > > > robocopy would be responsible for only the attributes and > > > > permissions. Since rsync is a *nix utility, I doubt much effort will > > > > be put into compatibility with windows permissions. > > > > > > > > _____________________________ > > > > Stephen Zemlicka > > > > Integrated Computer Technologies > > > > PH. 608-558-5926 > > > > E-Mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > > > > Behalf > > > > > > Of > > > > > > > havoc > > > > Sent: Monday, October 01, 2007 11:00 AM > > > > To: rsync@lists.samba.org > > > > Subject: Re: cygwin rsync windows to windows ACL problem > > > > > > > > Unfortunately I don't think it will work. > > > > We have two offices in the same corporate park connected by an > > > > unreliable > > > > > > radio backhaul, and several terabytes of data to sync daily, hence my > > > > desire > > > > > > > > to get rsync working :( > > > > > > > > PS: I will definitely check out robocopy for other uses, thank you :) > > > > > > > > On Monday 01 October 2007, Stephen Zemlicka wrote: > > > > > Robocopy does copy only the new or changed files. However it does > > > > copy > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > whole files (similar to the -W switch in rsync). I use robocopy > > > > > > whenever > > > > > > > I > > > > > > > > > already have a secure connection (VPN) or when my backups don't > > > > include > > > > > > > large (multi GB) database files. To see if robocopy will work by > > > > > itself for you, add the -W switch and see if that's acceptable. > > > > > It'll take a bit longer for changed files but will be just as fast > > > > > for new files. > > > > > > > > > > _____________________________ > > > > > Stephen Zemlicka > > > > > Integrated Computer Technologies > > > > > PH. 608-558-5926 > > > > > E-Mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > > > > > Behalf > > > > > > > > Of > > > > > > > > > havoc > > > > > Sent: Monday, October 01, 2007 10:50 AM > > > > > To: rsync@lists.samba.org > > > > > Subject: Re: cygwin rsync windows to windows ACL problem > > > > > > > > > > Does robocopy handle partial transfers, and backups of changed > > > > > deleted files? > > > > > My reason for wanting rsync is to maintain a mirror, and accomplish > > > > > incremental backups via --backup --backup-dir=<blah> with rsync. > > > > > > > > > > On Monday 01 October 2007, Stephen Zemlicka wrote: > > > > > > I have also noticed that permissions aren't always copied under > > > > > > windows. I've heard you can use robocopy to do it. I have not > > > > > > because it hasn't been critical to my operation but supposedly, > > you > > > > > > > can use something like > > > > > > > > > > > > ROBOCOPY source destination /XO /XN /XC /E /COPY:ATSOU > > > > > > > > > > > > After the backup script. This should not copy any files and just > > > > > > copy the file permissions and attributes. Let me know if that > > > > helps. > > > > > > > > BTW, robocopy is part of the windows 2003 resource kit. > > > > > > > > > > > > _____________________________ > > > > > > Stephen Zemlicka > > > > > > Integrated Computer Technologies > > > > > > PH. 608-558-5926 > > > > > > E-Mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > > > > > > Behalf > > > > > > > > > > Of > > > > > > > > > > > havoc > > > > > > Sent: Monday, October 01, 2007 9:59 AM > > > > > > To: rsync@lists.samba.org > > > > > > Subject: cygwin rsync windows to windows ACL problem > > > > > > > > > > > > I am having problems using rsync on cygwin to properly copy the > > > > > > ownership of files from windows to windows. > > > > > > I am running: rsync -avPA //src_addr/some/path /local/dst/path/ > > > > > > > > > > > > Based on: > > > > > > http://www.mail-archive.com/rsync@lists.samba.org/msg18920.html > > > > > > and: > > http://www.nabble.com/Re:-I-need-rsync-+-acl-support-for-windows--t2462647. > > > > > > >h tml > > > > > > > > > > > > ENV: CYGWIN=ntsec tty > > > > > > I am running this on Windows Server 2003 R2 SP2 (a DC), the SRC > > > > > > is a Windows XP SP2 domain member. > > > > > > I have tried patching the cygwin rsync source to enable ACL > > > > > > support, and had this confirmed by rsync --version > > > > > > This didn't work so I got rsync-acl-2.6.9.tar.bz2 from: > > > > > > http://mattmccutchen.net/myrsync/ > > > > > > and configured with --enable-acl-support > > > > > > This still does not work. Is what I am trying to do not > > > > > > possible, or am I just doing something wrong? > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for any input. > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > > > - havoc > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > - havoc > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > - havoc > > > > > > -- > > > > > > - havoc > > > > -- > > > > - havoc
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