[rspec-users] [cucumber] fat client continued(?)

2009-05-18 Thread Jeroen van Dijk
Hi All, I'm looking for a cucumber (browser) client where the product owner can browse/edit features and see the status of the features. So far I tried the rcumber plugin (found here http://wiki.github.com/aslakhellesoy/cucumber/related-tools) which more or less does what I want but still in a ve

Re: [rspec-users] Cucumber fat client

2008-12-16 Thread mike.gaffney
Correct me if I'm wrong (and I probably missed something), but why do you and some others in this thread want users to actually edit a feature? That's going to wreck havoc with steps that won't match anymore, breaking features, and therefore making the client angry. WDYT? bartz > My thinking

Re: [rspec-users] Cucumber fat client

2008-12-16 Thread Mischa Fierer
Also, if people are into this sort of thing, I would be up for helping build it. On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 3:17 AM, Mischa Fierer wrote: > A few other things... > > In the interface that I was describing, it would solve several problems to > have something like: > > Given I'm a client > When I fol

Re: [rspec-users] Cucumber fat client

2008-12-16 Thread Mischa Fierer
A few other things... In the interface that I was describing, it would solve several problems to have something like: Given I'm a client When I follow "new story" And I drag in "Given I am a Pet Owner" And I press "new action" And I select "When I follow" And I fill in "follows_what_link" with "B

Re: [rspec-users] Cucumber fat client

2008-12-16 Thread Mischa Fierer
I can maybe offer something here. *begin rambling* My team of 4 (2 coders, 2 biz people) has recently switched to using Pivotal Tracker, and we've been doing the following: 1) Figure out what we can do that will add value 2) Draw out the ui / changes on a whiteboard 3) Write out features & copy t

Re: [rspec-users] Cucumber fat client

2008-12-16 Thread Bart Zonneveld
On 16-dec-2008, at 9:42, Matt Wynne wrote: On 15 Dec 2008, at 12:53, Bart Zonneveld wrote: On 14-dec-2008, at 19:49, mike.gaffney wrote: Why not make a web client that manipulates git based projects in the background? I've been messing around with Grit and doing things like this lately

Re: [rspec-users] Cucumber fat client

2008-12-16 Thread Matt Wynne
On 15 Dec 2008, at 12:53, Bart Zonneveld wrote: On 14-dec-2008, at 19:49, mike.gaffney wrote: Why not make a web client that manipulates git based projects in the background? I've been messing around with Grit and doing things like this lately for http://rdocul.us a site I run and it is v

Re: [rspec-users] Cucumber fat client

2008-12-15 Thread Bart Zonneveld
On 14-dec-2008, at 19:49, mike.gaffney wrote: Why not make a web client that manipulates git based projects in the background? I've been messing around with Grit and doing things like this lately for http://rdocul.us a site I run and it is very easy to do. If everything is in a standard lo

Re: [rspec-users] Cucumber fat client

2008-12-14 Thread mike.gaffney
Why not make a web client that manipulates git based projects in the background? I've been messing around with Grit and doing things like this lately for http://rdocul.us a site I run and it is very easy to do. If everything is in a standard location you could just add a project via an administ

Re: [rspec-users] Cucumber fat client

2008-12-14 Thread Matt Wynne
On 9 Dec 2008, at 09:43, aslak hellesoy wrote: Hi folks, Cucumber has become popular a lot quicker than I had anticipated. Still, with its plain text nature it is still limited to programmers (in most teams). I want to close the gap between customers/product owners/business analysts and

Re: [rspec-users] Cucumber fat client

2008-12-09 Thread Tim Glen
I think it would be a great app to have, which would work well inside a web browser, rather than a fat client that customers and managers have to download...? +1, I think keeping it in the browser will work well for most situations. One option is to make it a flex app and could then be use

Re: [rspec-users] Cucumber fat client

2008-12-09 Thread Joseph Wilk
Matt Wynne wrote: On 9 Dec 2008, at 15:11, aslak hellesoy wrote: On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 3:52 PM, steven shingler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hey Aslak, Doesn't this sound a bit like your Kipling project, which we spoke about at QCon London, back in March? ;) (http://gitorious.org/projects/

Re: [rspec-users] Cucumber fat client

2008-12-09 Thread Ben Mabey
steven shingler wrote: Hey Aslak, Doesn't this sound a bit like your Kipling project, which we spoke about at QCon London, back in March? ;) (http://gitorious.org/projects/kipling) I think it would be a great app to have, which would work well inside a web browser, rather than a fat client

Re: [rspec-users] Cucumber fat client

2008-12-09 Thread Matt Wynne
On 9 Dec 2008, at 15:11, aslak hellesoy wrote: On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 3:52 PM, steven shingler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hey Aslak, Doesn't this sound a bit like your Kipling project, which we spoke about at QCon London, back in March? ;) (http://gitorious.org/projects/kipling) A littl

Re: [rspec-users] Cucumber fat client

2008-12-09 Thread aslak hellesoy
On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 3:52 PM, steven shingler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hey Aslak, > > Doesn't this sound a bit like your Kipling project, which we spoke about at > QCon London, back in March? ;) > > (http://gitorious.org/projects/kipling) > A little bit, but the idea with Kipling was to mak

Re: [rspec-users] Cucumber fat client

2008-12-09 Thread steven shingler
Hey Aslak, Doesn't this sound a bit like your Kipling project, which we spoke about at QCon London, back in March? ;) (http://gitorious.org/projects/kipling) I think it would be a great app to have, which would work well inside a web browser, rather than a fat client that customers and managers

Re: [rspec-users] Cucumber fat client

2008-12-09 Thread aslak hellesoy
On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 11:47 AM, Rahoul Baruah <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 9 Dec 2008, at 09:43, aslak hellesoy wrote: > > So I'm asking you - what would this user interface be like? How do people >> want to access it >> and use it? >> > > > I was considering writing (but will probably neve

Re: [rspec-users] Cucumber fat client

2008-12-09 Thread aidy lewis
Hi Aslak, Below are my manager's recommendations: "If you take a look at Twist, Thoughtworks have already done the hard work in gleaning the requirements for this. Something Twist like would be well received. http://studios.thoughtworks.com/twist-agile-test-automation Their implementation is ec

Re: [rspec-users] Cucumber fat client

2008-12-09 Thread Rahoul Baruah
On 9 Dec 2008, at 09:43, aslak hellesoy wrote: So I'm asking you - what would this user interface be like? How do people want to access it and use it? I was considering writing (but will probably never have time for) a simple writeboard/wiki-style site that is linked to a git repository.

[rspec-users] Cucumber fat client

2008-12-09 Thread aslak hellesoy
Hi folks, Cucumber has become popular a lot quicker than I had anticipated. Still, with its plain text nature it is still limited to programmers (in most teams). I want to close the gap between customers/product owners/business analysts and programmers, and I'm convinced that a fat client is need