RE: Rietveld website cancelled ?

2018-08-29 Thread Von Dreele, Robert B.
Hi Armel, A more extreme example was in Acta D56, 1549-1533 (2000) where a protein structure (a new insulin phase) was solved by rigid body Rietveld refinement from a synchrotron powder data set & subsequently confirmed by a single crystal analysis (see Acta Cryst. (2001). D57, 1091-1100). NB: t

RE: Re: thermal parameters at low temperature

2004-02-26 Thread Von Dreele, Robert B.
Liliana, GSAS will refine the value of the absorption coefficient for neutron TOF data quite easily (I recall one message of yours mentioned that your data was of this "flavor"). Just turn on the flag. Your Uiso's should rise for all atoms making those for the heavy atoms positive. The ABS value

Re: Bragg R and GSAS

2004-02-26 Thread Von Dreele, Robert B.
allel with single crystal analysis, is there an accepted limit for R(F2) or any other parameter like Rexp to follow? I'm using synchrotron data. nandini --- "Von Dreele, Robert B." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Nandini, > GSAS gives R(F^2) which is sometimes defined for > s

Single crystal data setup

2004-02-26 Thread Von Dreele, Robert B.
Jennifer, Yes. Start with SXTLDATA to read in the hkl file. It will ask for lots of stuff but you will only really need h,k,l,Fo & sig(Fo). Then go to EXPEDT to put in the rest of the stuff (atom positions, etc.). Bob Von Dreele -Original Message- From: Jennifer Anderson [mailto:[EMAIL

RE: Re: thermal parameters at low temperature

2004-02-26 Thread Von Dreele, Robert B.
PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dear Dr Von Dreele, The structure at room temperature was refined from neutron TOF. Now, I am using this model to refine low temperature data from neutron CW. My sample has Cu-Cl-La-Nb-O. Sincerely, Liliana -Original Message- From: Von Dreele, Robert B. [mailto

Bragg R and GSAS

2004-02-26 Thread Von Dreele, Robert B.
Nandini, GSAS gives R(F^2) which is sometimes defined for single crystal structure analysis. It can be used in the same way as RBragg. Neither is statistically related to the minimization process in a Rietveld least squares refinement, but can be a useful diagnostic for the quality of the struct

HfO2

2004-03-12 Thread Von Dreele, Robert B.
Henry, Do you have the correct polarization correction (POLA=0.95, IPOL=0) fro synchrotron radiation? Did you just use the defaults for Uiso (=0.025)? If so that is too high for something like HfO2 for which UISO might be closer to 0.004. Either of these would do what you observe. Bob Von Dreele

Instument parameter file

2004-03-18 Thread Von Dreele, Robert B.
Donna (and anyone else who wonders about this), In gsas\examples there is an iparm file (inst_xry.prm) that can be used for most any Bragg-Brentano powder diffractometer. These instruments all perform more or less equally independent of manufacturer with respect to the things of interest for Rie

Re: Philosophical vein

2004-03-19 Thread Von Dreele, Robert B.
I would only add that much of the software development is done as a "hobby" by many us, i.e. with only grudging institutional support. Bob -Original Message- From: L. Cranswick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Fri 3/19/2004 3:44 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [hope this is not a resend - Ema

Rawplot refinement formula

2004-03-22 Thread Von Dreele, Robert B.
Hi, According to GSASNEWS.TXT from July 6,1999. "19. RAWPLOT now has the option for fitting positions, areas & shapes of up to 30 individual reflections in a powder pattern using the same profile functions available in GENLES." GSASNEWS.TXT is part of the standard GSAS distribution and is in th

New version of GSAS

2004-03-22 Thread Von Dreele, Robert B.
Hi, There is a new version of GSAS for Windows. The Linux one will be out in a bit. Below are lines from GSASNEWS.TXT with details of the new things & fixes in this version. In brief, there is now conjugate gradient refinement, new tables of f' & f" for 10 standard wavelengths (CoKa fans can no

Lattice parameter constraint in GSAS

2004-03-25 Thread Von Dreele, Robert B.
Dear Andrew, You only need to constrain RM11 and RM33 to be the same for both phases; GSAS takes care of RM22 by symmetry. Bob Von Dreele -Original Message- From: Andrew Hector [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thu 3/25/2004 9:44 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I am trying to refine a magneti

Lattice parameter constraint in GSAS

2004-03-25 Thread Von Dreele, Robert B.
Dear Andrew, I should read your message a bit more fully. Maxim's response is of course correct. One additional point is that you can only have one constraint for any GSAS parameter. Bob Von Dreele -Original Message- From: Andrew Hector [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thu 3/25/2004 9:44

Re: Lattice parameter constraint in GSAS

2004-03-25 Thread Von Dreele, Robert B.
Andrew, Still one more point - watch for the effects of damping on constrained parameters. I'd remove any damping & then do your refinements. Also the constraints are on the shifts in the parameters & not on the values. So if the values are different - they will stay that way. Bob Von Dreele -

gsas reflection listings

2004-03-30 Thread Von Dreele, Robert B.
Dear Arie, Some of this has been discussed earlier but in a LeBail refinement in GSAS the Ka1 and Ka2 reflections are treated as independent and the 2:1 intensity ratio is not used. This arises because of the severe computational difficulty of connecting the intensities of these paired reflectio

Re: gsas reflection listings

2004-03-31 Thread Von Dreele, Robert B.
. Arie On 30 Mar 2004 at 8:44, Von Dreele, Robert B. wrote: > Dear Arie, > Some of this has been discussed earlier but in a LeBail refinement in GSAS the Ka1 > and Ka2 reflections are treated as independent and the 2:1 intensity ratio is not > used. This arises because of t

Defining the origin of P2/n

2004-03-31 Thread Von Dreele, Robert B.
Dear Stephen (& others), I know there have been a number of replies to this since P2/n does have an inversion center which is positioned at the unit cell origin. However, if the space group is Pn (or P2) then the location of the origin is arbitrary on one or more axes. GSAS does "automatically"

Defining the origin of P2/n

2004-03-31 Thread Von Dreele, Robert B.
ow it is done. This way has one big advantage over user fixed origin -- it yields standard uncertainties for all atoms and therefore for all distances, etc. Peter Zavalij -Original Message----- From: Von Dreele, Robert B. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2004 10:17

Re: Defining the origin of P2/n

2004-04-03 Thread Von Dreele, Robert B.
Stephen, Whether the space group is centrosymmetric or not isn't the issue. The question is whether it is polar or not. P2/n is not polar (i.e. origin defined relative to some symmetry element) but P2 is polar (i.e y coordinate not chosen relative to a symmetry element). Bob Von Dreele

coorelation matrix

2004-04-12 Thread Von Dreele, Robert B.
Ana (& others), Find this option in the print options in the least squares control menu. The output will list only those covariance terms >0.50 and <-0.50 (i.e. just the big ones). It is a very condensed table with a variable name followed by variable names & covar. value. Bob Von Dreele ___

new GSAS

2004-04-16 Thread Von Dreele, Robert B.
Hi all, There is a new version of GSAS for Windows; Linux to follow soon. The changes are: GSAS News... April 15, 2004 (tax day in USA) 1. A small cosmetic fix to the g-value editing routine. 2. There is now an option in histogram editing to set aside a certain fraction of the profile points

new GSAS

2004-04-17 Thread Von Dreele, Robert B.
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello Bob Von Dreele and all, I am Marcelo Gomes da Silva, PhD Student at PennState. About this new version, is it avaliable for downlaod already? If so, where? Appreciate everybody's attention. Marcelo - Original Message - From: "Von Dreele, Robert B

new Linux GSAS

2004-04-19 Thread Von Dreele, Robert B.
Title: Message Hi Folks, There is now a new Linux version of GSAS that matches the recent Windows version. Lots of changes since the last Linux one. See GSASNEWS.TXT for details. Find it at ftp://ftp.ccp14.ac.uk/ccp14/ftp-mirror/gsas/public/gsas/ in the linux subdirectory. As usual let me kn

maximum number of data points in GSAS raw files?

2004-04-22 Thread Von Dreele, Robert B.
Dear Marit (& others), The current limit is 9 points - that's not your problem. Bob Von Dreele -Original Message- From: Marit Stange [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thu 4/22/2004 9:36 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi, I have a problem with a data file (SR-XRD data, 19400 points, 2theta; 3-

Re: GSAS informations

2004-04-26 Thread Von Dreele, Robert B.
Jon, I risk a public reply here. One possibility everyone should be open to is that a real phase change has occured during some experimental manipulation of your sample. Some phase changes are quite subtle and involve only slight (and at first sight) quite odd line broadening. Higher resolution

New to GSAS

2004-04-26 Thread Von Dreele, Robert B.
Apu, 1. For now use the inst_xry.prm file in \gsas\examples. 2. POLA is appropriate only for X-ray data & not neutron data. GSAS knows the difference. Bob Von Dreele From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Mon 4/26/2004 11:45 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECT

oxidation state in GSAS?

2004-05-18 Thread Von Dreele, Robert B.
Dear Marcelo (& others), GSAS should do texture (sph. harmonics) with "film" data (or image plate) powder data. Image needs to be divided up in to 'pie' sections & integrated to give a sequence of patterns about the azimuth. The read them as separate "histograms" in GSAS & give each the appropri

[no subject]

2004-06-03 Thread Von Dreele, Robert B.
Hi All, There is a new version of Windows GSAS on the CCP14 web server. The biggest change is that it will now do Pawley style extractions for one set of reflections from multiple powder patterns. This is done inside GENLES. See below for note on this & other changes. Linux & other versions will

=20

2004-06-26 Thread Von Dreele, Robert B.
Dear Doinita (and others), I'm assuming this is a GSAS question. The tic marks show the ideal position of the reflections according to Bragg's Law. The real peaks can be "out of position" for a variety of reasons including a non zero ZERO. Most usually for ordinary x-ray powder data the sample d

EXPGUI and constraints?

2004-08-03 Thread Von Dreele, Robert B.
Dear Christoph (and others), The constraints within GSAS are limited to pairs of parameters. You describe a circumstance in which the total unit cell contents from a multiple atom sites is known from stoichiometry; this is best handled with a "restraint". The restraints in GSAS are not accessibl

Chemical Structure Constraint

2004-08-10 Thread Von Dreele, Robert B.
Dear Darin & others, The trick here is to realize the effect of the different site multiplicities. Moreover, remember that the constraint applies to the shifts & not the values. So start the site fractions with the right stereochemistry - you can put all Co in one site & all Fe in the other with

Re: Rietveld refinement and PDF refinement ?

2004-08-19 Thread Von Dreele, Robert B.
I'd only add that given the clue that the peak in GaInAs is split from the PDF then one should model it that way in a Rietveld refinement. It should agree. The thrown away info in a Rietveld refinement is also evident in the Bragg peak intensities - shows up as "funny" thermal parameters, low at

Re: Rietveld refinement and PDF refinement ?

2004-08-22 Thread Von Dreele, Robert B.
Jon & others, Well, there is an attempt at this in GSAS - the "diffuse scattering" functions for fitting these contributions separate from the "background" functions. These things have three forms related to the Debye equations formulated for glasses. The possibly neat thing about them is that

FWHMax

2004-08-27 Thread Von Dreele, Robert B.
Marcelo, Run REFLIST & request the file output of one phase of reflections to an ASCII file. FWHM is the 7th column. Bob Von Dreele From: Marcelo J.G. Silva [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Fri 8/27/2004 2:23 PM To: Rietveld List Dear all, Even though I know t

GSAS/EXPGUI update

2004-09-30 Thread Von Dreele, Robert B.
Hi Folks, Thanks to Brian Toby (see his note below) the various UNIX versions of GSAS and EXPGUI have been prepared. I have placed copies of all of them in the GSAS CCP14 web site. As he notes, please let me know of bugs in GSAS. He will deal with the EXPGUI ones. Thanks, Bob Von Dreele

Re: troublesome unit cell

2004-10-18 Thread Von Dreele, Robert B.
Pam, I hope that when you used GSAS you entered (as per instructions) "p 31 1 2" and not "p3112". Bob R.B. Von Dreele IPNS Division Argonne National Laboratory Argonne, IL 60439-4814 -Original Message- From: Whitfield, Pamela [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 18, 2004 12:

RE: troublesome unit cell

2004-10-18 Thread Von Dreele, Robert B.
Alan, One of your operators is a typo. "-x+y, y, -z+1/3" should be " Y-X Y 1/3-Z" Bob From: alan coelho [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Mon 10/18/2004 3:16 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Pam, As a developer and someone who uses other software to test a

RE: troublesome unit cell

2004-10-18 Thread Von Dreele, Robert B.
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Mathematics

2004-11-04 Thread Von Dreele, Robert B.
Try the GSAS Manual - a lot is in there. Bob Von Dreele From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thu 11/4/2004 10:19 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello ! I need papers about the mathematical aspects of Rietveld refinement. In my countyr (Colombia) t

partial occupancy

2004-11-06 Thread Von Dreele, Robert B.
Dear Donita, I'm sure you know that the vanadyl (V=0) bond length is short - you could put in a restraint on its length as one possible control on your refinement. If their sites are partially occupied then make sure you have a constraint to make FRAC(V)=FRAC(O). I don't particularly understand

Rigid body constraints on perovskite structured materials

2004-11-11 Thread Von Dreele, Robert B.
Dear Dan (& everyone else), They probably can to some extent. Since the "rigid bodies" in GSAS can have refinable internal coordinates they might be suitable for this kind of work. It might take some imaginative design for the refinement in how the octahedra are described so you should think on

New GSAS

2004-11-13 Thread Von Dreele, Robert B.
Hi, I'll be placing a new Windows version of GSAS onto the CCP14 web site immediately. The fixes are noted below. As usual thanks to all, especially those who find bugs & errors. Bob Von Dreele Nov. 13, 2004 1. Fixed problem in CW function nos. 3-5 (Finger, Cox & Jephcoat function) where an od

qftian@126.com's Autoreply

2004-11-13 Thread Von Dreele, Robert B.
please remove your "autoreply". It is not useful. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sat 11/13/2004 2:37 PM To: Von Dreele, Robert B. [EMAIL PROTECTED]

error-like message of inputting raw data

2004-11-15 Thread Von Dreele, Robert B.
Dear Ling Fei (& others), GSAS requires all powder data to be records 80 visible characters long and each terminated with an additional 2 characters (CR & LF). Thus, the length of the file in bytes should be divisible by 82. CNVFILE will try to fix this; it does not do any other formatting. Powd

Google Scholar

2004-11-25 Thread Von Dreele, Robert B.
interesting, one should try one's own name! From: Armel Le Bail [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thu 25/11/2004 04:12 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi, It seems that Google Scholar is a big support to a more open access to the Knowledge. There i

رد: Electron density using fourier

2004-12-01 Thread Von Dreele, Robert B.
Riza, Follow same procedures for your second phase. You will have to choose the phase first in the map editing menu. FOURIER will only do one phase at a time though. Bob Von Dreele من: Riza Iskandar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] تاريخ الإرسال: الثلاثاء 30/11/2004 08:

Is this what you had in mind?

2004-12-13 Thread Von Dreele, Robert B.
Larry, Out of curiousity I downloaded a copy of DrawXTL (Windows version & source as well). BTW still more work on the FCJ function. It had a bad habit of misbehaving for reflections at exactly 90. deg 2-theta & tmp=0.0. It seems that the choice of F=0.0 was a bad one (divide by zero crashes

11-BM scientist position

2005-01-21 Thread Von Dreele, Robert B.
Folks, FYI. R.B. Von Dreele IPNS Division Argonne National Laboratory Argonne, IL 60439-4814 -Original Message- From: Peter L. Lee [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 21, 2005 11:32 AM To: Mitchell, John; Jorgensen, James D.; Mark A Beno; Von Dreele, Robert B.; Quintana

New GSAS

2005-01-27 Thread Von Dreele, Robert B.
Title: Message Hi Folks, A new version of GSAS for Windows has been downloaded to the CCP14 web server. The changes are relatively minor. They involve another "tweak" of the FCJ profile functions and an update of the atmdata.dat file. See remarks below. Some remaining issues are: 1) The Paw

Rf values in GSAS

2005-02-03 Thread Von Dreele, Robert B.
Jools, GSAS gives R(F^2)in the .LST file for each powder histogram assuming the Fo extraction flag is "on" (default). Generally R(F) = 0.5* R(F^2). Bob Von Dreele R.B. Von Dreele IPNS Division Argonne National Laboratory Argonne, IL 60439-4814 -Original Message- From: Jools [mailto:[EMA

spherical hamonics

2005-02-18 Thread Von Dreele, Robert B.
Dear Yaroslav (and others), Use cylindrical symmetry for flat plate Bragg-Brentano samples. There isn't sufficient information in a single scan to do more than that. Conseqently wnen you used mmm ample symmetry you got "nonsense" (J=400!!). Use POLFPLOT option "A" to plot the resulting "axial distr

new GSAS

2005-03-22 Thread Von Dreele, Robert B.
Title: Message Hi Folks, A new version of the Windows GSAS has been placed on the CCP14 web site. The changes from the Jan. 27, 2005 version are relatively modest. These are:   Mar. 22, 20051. Corrected some of the parameter names for the P. Stephens peak shape parameters. These were mostly

RE: Mean vs. Median to reduce bias in grainy intensities (was Re: Level of Preferred Orientation)

2005-04-05 Thread Von Dreele, Robert B.
Guys, This appeared in a Rietveld e-mail a bit ago & needs a comment: "While I can understand the general rationale for the idea (minimize the weight of the very strong reflections to the final integrated intensity for the reflection)" The fact of the matter is that most least squares programs do

Another new GSAS

2005-04-07 Thread Von Dreele, Robert B.
Title: Message Well, when on a roll... A new version of GSAS for Windows has been placed on the CCP14 web site. As you can see from the notes below this has significant changes. The powder graphics has been improved with a new font, a high/low resolution option and the availability of variab

RE: Size Strain in GSAS

2005-04-14 Thread Von Dreele, Robert B.
Title: Message A word from a "provider" of a Rietveld code (please don't call me a "programmer"). "But if c>0.4 any pV fails" - OK, for what fraction of the universe of "real world" samples is "c">0.4? I suspect, given the general success of the TCH pseudoVoigt function, that it is exceedi

RE: Size Strain in GSAS

2005-04-14 Thread Von Dreele, Robert B.
Title: Message Nic, I know about "super Lorentzians". Trouble is that many of those older reports were from Rietveld refinements "pre TCH" and used a formulation of the pseudo-Voigt which forced the FWHM of the Gaussian and Lorentzian components to be equal and allowed the mixing coefficient

RE: Size Strain in GSAS

2005-04-14 Thread Von Dreele, Robert B.
Title: Message Nic, This is true for the internal math but the TCH function was assembled to reproduce the true Voigt over the entire range of differing Lorentz and Gauss FWHM values so it works as if the two FWHM components are independent. As for your question, I'm not aware that anyone ha

Re: Size Strain in GSAS

2005-04-15 Thread Von Dreele, Robert B.
Nic, Well, I have been tempted from time to time to implement a "log normal" type distribution in on eof the profile functions. A "nice" math description ameanable to RR would help. Bob From: Nicolae Popa [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Fri 4/15/2005 2:30 AM To:

Re: Size Strain in GSAS

2005-04-15 Thread Von Dreele, Robert B.
Alan, Ah - the "rocks & dust" model. It works well. Bob From: alan coelho [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Fri 4/15/2005 5:30 AM To: rietveld_l@ill.fr Nicolae, Nick, Bob, Leonid, I have looked at many patterns (recorded by others) and a few cases have shown

extinction coefficient

2005-04-18 Thread Von Dreele, Robert B.
Gerard, Negative extinction is not physical - so has no meaning. There is some other systematic effect that is affecting your result. BTW, I have recently used the x-ray version of extinction in GSAS as well as the neutron (TOF) one on the same set of samples. Both do work and both give about th

Re: Size Strain in GSAS

2005-04-18 Thread Von Dreele, Robert B.
Nic, Thanks,it will take a while (as usual) to implement. Bob R.B. Von Dreele IPNS Division Argonne National Laboratory Argonne, IL 60439-4814 -Original Message- From: Nicolae Popa [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, April 17, 2005 1:27 AM To: rietveld_l@ill.fr Bob, A "nice" ma

RE: correlation matrix

2005-05-05 Thread Von Dreele, Robert B.
Title: Message Gerard, In GSAS there is a GENLES "print" option that will give the covariance terms larger than +/- 0.5 in the list file. There aren't as many large ones as you might think apart from the various background terms. Bob Von Dreele     R.B. Von Dreele IPNS Division Argonne Nati

RE: mismatch between ICSD cif file and GSAS

2005-05-16 Thread Von Dreele, Robert B.
Title: Message Don, As Allen Larson noted GSAS only uses the 2nd setting for space groups that have two (e.g. F d 3 m) so that he inversion center is placed at the origin. The eta alumina structure you have is for the 1st setting. To convert from 1st to 2nd subtract 1/8,1/8,1/8 from all xyz.

new GSAS

2005-06-08 Thread Von Dreele, Robert B.
Title: Message Hi, A new Windows version of GSAS has been placed on the CCP14 web site. There are some changes since the Apr. 7, 2005 release. These are: June 8, 20051. Modified GENLES so that the Marquardt matrix modifier is changed before the current cycle. It will decrease by 20% or less

Inst Parameters

2005-07-26 Thread Von Dreele, Robert B.
John, As was said by Francesco, you really must go back to the instrument responsible for the diffractometer you used to collect the data for that instrument parameter file. An old example of such a file is \gsas\example\inst_tof.prm (the instrument doesn't exist any longer), however iparm files fo

How to prepare intensity and hkl files needed by SHELXTL-97

2006-05-30 Thread Von Dreele, Robert B.
Use "R" option in REFLIST R.B. Von Dreele IPNS Division Argonne National Laboratory Argonne, IL 60439-4814 -Original Message- From: Dr. Yi-Ping Tong [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2006 9:55 AM To: Rietveld BBS software? Dear all Does anybody could tell me how GSAS

Re: how to find out POLARISATION Factor

2006-05-30 Thread Von Dreele, Robert B.
How about even lower angles? From: Larry Finger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tue 5/30/2006 4:25 PM To: rietveld_l@ill.fr AlanCoelho wrote: > I would like to conclude that to be critical of a method such as the > convolution approach to describing instrument

Re: How to prepare intensity and hkl files needed by SHELXTL-97

2006-05-31 Thread Von Dreele, Robert B.
Could probably do much the same thing in EXCEL or some other spreadsheet program, I suppose R.B. Von Dreele IPNS Division Argonne National Laboratory Argonne, IL 60439-4814 -Original Message- From: Jon Wright [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2006 8:54 AM To: rietveld_

Re: How to prepare intensity and hkl files needed by SHELXTL-97

2006-05-31 Thread Von Dreele, Robert B.
Hi, Whoever is running the CCP14 site needs to capture these FAQ type messages & stick them into the appropriate spot in the web site for others to find later. This question (& ones like it) does come up occasionally. Bob Von Dreele R.B. Von Dreele IPNS Division Argonne National Laboratory Argonne

Re: How to prepare intensity and hkl files needed by SHELXTL-97

2006-05-31 Thread Von Dreele, Robert B.
uld anyone wish to contact the CCP14 or me! http://www.ccp14.ac.uk/people/people.htm Thanks Richard Von Dreele, Robert B. wrote: > Hi, > Whoever is running the CCP14 site needs to capture these FAQ type > messages & stick them into the appropriate spot in the web site for >

CCP14: Rietveld FAQ page created

2006-05-31 Thread Von Dreele, Robert B.
list Page available via www.ccp14.ac.ukat http://www.ccp14.ac.uk/solution/rietveldfaq.html I hope this helps, suggestions or requests for the CCP14 site are always welcomed and greatly received! Richard Von Dreele, Robert B. wrote: > Hi, > Whoever is running the CCP14 site needs

Re: Converting .RAW file to correct format in GSAS

2006-06-20 Thread Von Dreele, Robert B.
I need to note (again) that the file name extension for "raw" powder diffraction data has no meaning within GSAS. GSAS does not care what the extension is - most importantly the extension does not dictate how GSAS reads the file. The file formats are described in the GSAS Manual and examples of

Crystal size in GSAS

2006-06-29 Thread Von Dreele, Robert B.
Sajeev, There is a lot of information like this in the GSAS Manual. Bob Von Dreele R.B. Von Dreele IPNS Division Argonne National Laboratory Argonne, IL 60439-4814 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2006 11:31 AM To: rietveld_l

RE: Crystal size in GSAS

2006-06-29 Thread Von Dreele, Robert B.
Stephanie, The GSAS routine REFLIST has an option to produce a "single phase ascii" file of reflections. One of the columns in that file is FWHM. Alternatively there is a graphic in EXPGUI (widplt) that will plot FWHM and its Gaussian & Lorentzian contributions as a function of 2-theta. Bob Von

Re: CIF format for powder work

2006-07-12 Thread Von Dreele, Robert B.
Pam, Actually what was the issue with the cif files with multiple phases/data sets? gsas2cif writes it out fine, I presume. Is it that the cif checkers can't handle the complexity? I guess my comment is that they'd better as there is going to be a lot more of this kind of thing in the future. Ev

GSAS magnetic notation

2006-07-17 Thread Von Dreele, Robert B.
Simon (et al.), This is from the output of spcgroup with the antisymmetry option as 'Y' Opr Iden -4z2z -4z3 2y M+-0 2x M110 Most of these are fairly easy to interpret Iden = identity -4z, 2z & -4z3 are the three parts of the -4 set of operations 2y & 2x are the two 21 screw axes &

powplot config of figures for publication

2006-07-18 Thread Von Dreele, Robert B.
I'd only add that powplot has an "A" option for producing an ascii file with the as plotted values suitable for plotting by gnuplot (or anything else). Key point - this file contains the as plotted data. R.B. Von Dreele IPNS Division Argonne National Laboratory Argonne, IL 60439-4814 -Origi

powplot config of figures for publication

2006-07-19 Thread Von Dreele, Robert B.
ble, although more extra work has to be involved. I like the figure powplot gives, but the only problem is the font. Sincerely, Ling Yang -----Original Message- From: Von Dreele, Robert B. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2006 4:01 PM To: rietveld_l@ill.fr I'd only add th

Re: Converting files / opening .dat files in GSAS

2006-07-31 Thread Von Dreele, Robert B.
Liz (& others), A couple of points: 1) The format for the (default) "STD" GSAS powder data file has 10 values per record in "I2,F6" (in FORTRAN speak) for each data point. Thus each entry can be no larger than 99 (no decimal point is needed). The "I2" field is the number of detectors used to

RE: Diffuse Background Under the Bragg Peaks

2006-09-08 Thread Von Dreele, Robert B.
Dear Milinda, In the menu for introducing the diffuse scattering function & setting initial values (especially for "R" - interatomic distance), set the refinement flags with "V" (as usual). If it didn't refine then your starting valued are not good. Set A=1.0, R to an interatomic distance & U=0.

RE: RE: Diffuse Background Under the Bragg Peaks

2006-09-11 Thread Von Dreele, Robert B.
it possible to plot a co-relation function from the diffuse background? I mean, to obtain the correlations from the disordered part of the structure? Thank You. Milinda. --- "Von Dreele, Robert B." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Dear Milinda, > In the menu for introducing th

RE: RE: RE: Diffuse Background Under the Bragg Peaks

2006-09-12 Thread Von Dreele, Robert B.
el and the model from Bragg contribution are co-related. However, As far as I understand the GSAS model for the total intensity is, I(observed) = I(calculated Bragg) + I(diffuse) In this case, the final model has two parts which are completely independent of each other. Am I right? Milinda.

RE: Atomic scattering factor for Carbon

2006-10-13 Thread Von Dreele, Robert B.
Dear Apu, Compilations of scattering factors in International Tables for X-ray Crystallography go to sin(theta)/lambda = 2. Use those. Bob Von Dreele R.B. Von Dreele IPNS Division Argonne National Laboratory Argonne, IL 60439-4814 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAI

RE: R-Value SHELX/GSAS

2006-10-17 Thread Von Dreele, Robert B.
Dear Friedrich, There are inequivalent reflections that overlap even in cubic structures; those where h^2+k^2+l^2 are the same will have identical d-spacings (e.g. 300 & 221, 410 & 322). Check through the list of reflections to see those that have identical d-spacings; these are also listed in the

RE: GSAS: interpretation of strain broadening

2006-10-25 Thread Von Dreele, Robert B.
Dear Franz, I'm sure there will be many opinions on this but here goes from me. The "sig" on the lattice parameters is only a measure of precision for the value and is not directly related to the microstrain broadening. It is more a measure of how well the peak positions can be collectively deter

RE: GSAS: Data with uneven stepwidth

2006-11-03 Thread Von Dreele, Robert B.
Dear All (& Franz), Use FXYE format. The positions given actually override those that would be calculated from the average stepwidth given on the "BANK" record where it matters. This scheme is only valid where the goniometer doesn't give truly uniform steps but "jitters" about some average. Most

RE: Re: Cell parameter constrain

2006-11-15 Thread Von Dreele, Robert B.
Hi All, A couple of points about lattice parameter constraints: 1) Beware of using "damping"; it isn't needed especially for lattice parameters in Rietveld refinements and it will mess up the intent of constraints if not very carefully used. 2) The constraints are on the reciprocal metric tensor

RE: FWHM values

2006-12-19 Thread Von Dreele, Robert B.
run REFLIST and use the "R" option R.B. Von Dreele IPNS Division Argonne National Laboratory Argonne, IL 60439-4814 -Original Message- From: Henry Hsu [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2006 12:07 PM To: rietveld_l@ill.fr

New GSAS kits

2007-02-15 Thread Von Dreele, Robert B.
Hi, There are 3 new versions of the GSASkit on the ccp14 download web site. The Windows version and two linux versions were created. The major change is that the restrictive format requirements for raw powder data files has been lifted. No longer are they read as direct access with fixed length rec

RE: Powder Diffraction In Q-Space

2007-02-21 Thread Von Dreele, Robert B.
However, the profile shape functions are not simple functions of Q but are simple (Gaussian & Lorentzian) functions of 2-theta. Case closed. From: Klaus-Dieter Liss [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wed 2/21/2007 4:03 AM To: rietveld_l@ill.fr Subject: Powder Diffra

RE: RE: Powder Diffraction In Q-Space

2007-02-21 Thread Von Dreele, Robert B.
OK, I did play about & display some Q-space (Q=2pi/d) plots in GSAS. It will be an option in the next release. Pretty similar to conventional 2-theta plots - just a slight "squishing" of the scale at the upper end. Might not be really desirable for complex patterns. Some TOF data where data was col

RE: Re: Powder Diffraction In Q-Space

2007-02-21 Thread Von Dreele, Robert B.
Actually, I looked at Luca's little "show" & was sufficiently interested that GSAS will now plot sqrt(I) style plots. There is one "problem" - the value of "I" can be negative particularly after a background subtraction. These must be suppressed to zero for this plot to work - thus there is a small

RE: Powder Diffraction In Q-Space: plotting CIFs

2007-02-22 Thread Von Dreele, Robert B.
I should add about cif is that there exists a number fundamental incompatibilities between pdCIF & mmCIF. One main issue, as I understand it, is that pdCIF naturally can describe multiple data sets (powder patterns) used in a single structure analysis - mmCIF seems to forbid this. This will cause t

Another new GSAS

2007-02-23 Thread Von Dreele, Robert B.
Hi, I have just down loaded 3 new versions of GSAS to the ccp14 web site. These are for MS Windows, RedHat Enterprise 4 linux & Fedora 4 linux. The last two are not interchangable as the former has more of the libraries within the distribution. The changes are a) a bug fix for gsas2cif and b) impro

RE: N-TOF

2007-03-12 Thread Von Dreele, Robert B.
Juske, One point you should know the background in a TOF powder diffraction pattern is not high - that is a nearly constant background multiplied by a strongly varying incident spectrum which is much higher at short TOF than at long TOF. Do a "divide by incident spectrum" and you wll see what I mea

RE: RE: RE: Re: about format convert

2007-04-03 Thread Von Dreele, Robert B.
Hi, A few important points: 1) Removing Ka2 from the powder pattern is not necessary for running GSAS (or Fullpoof for that matter). Both represent the Ka1-Ka2 doublet quite nicely. More important, most Ka2 stripping routines can adversly distort the data messing up the result from a Rietveld re

new gsas

2007-05-03 Thread Von Dreele, Robert B.
Hi All, New versions of GSAS for Windows and Fedora-5 have been placed on the CCP14 web server. The changes are as follows: May 2, 2007 1. A new record in the .EXP file has been defined: 'HSTnn NFOBS' the number of observed reflections for each phase in a histogram. 2. REFLIST now can prepare a '

RE: RE: new gsas

2007-05-09 Thread Von Dreele, Robert B.
er maps respectively? Sometimes huge values are obtained for Patterson plot. Is there a way to normalized the values, for example, to number of electrons/A^3? Many thanks. Sincerely, Ling Yang -Original Message----- From: Von Dreele, Robert B. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May

New GSAS

2007-06-13 Thread Von Dreele, Robert B.
Hi Everyone, New Windows and Linux versions of GSAS have been downloaded to the CCP14 web site. The changes (since 2/2007) are: June 12, 2007 1. A new record in the .EXP file has been defined: 'HSTnn NFOBS' the number of observed reflections for each phase in a histogram. 2. REFLIST now can

RE: Caglioti U V W parameters

2007-06-25 Thread Von Dreele, Robert B.
Dear Stefan (& all, I suppose), >From the original formulation by Caglioti, et al. U>0, V<0 & W>0 for a "nonfocusing" neutron CW instrument and describes a parabolic curve with the minimum at roughly the 2-theta angle that matches the monochromator "take-off" (really 2-theta) angle. For a Bragg-Bre

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