space group + symmetry positions

2004-11-03 Thread Peter Zavalij
2a & 2b yield the same structure that has c'=c/2 so this is not case. 2c & 2d yield again the same structure which is hexagonal close-packed - Mg structure type. Check cell dimensions against know structure types. Peter Zavalij University Crystallographer Institute for Materials Research and Che

space group + symmetry positions

2004-11-03 Thread chandan
If there are only two atoms, try any of the followings: position 2a: 0,0,0; 0,0,0.5 position 2b: 0,0,0.25; 0,0,0.75 position 2c: 1/3,2/3,1/4; 2/3,1/3,3/4 position 2d: 1/3,2/3,3/4; 2/3,1/3,1/4 Best === [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Wed, 03 Nov 2004 21:36:27 +0500 wrote: Dear Dr. Zhang

space group + symmetry positions

2004-11-03 Thread Peter Zavalij
Do you know what structure type it is? If yes just take the same atomic position for you compound as for the known one. If not you have to find it. Anyway... be careful with the space group symbol - It should be "P 63/m m c" not "P 6 3 /m m c". NO SPACE between 6 & 3. Peter Zavalij Dr. Peter Y.

space group + symmetry positions

2004-11-03 Thread apu
Dear Dr. Zhang and Dr. Marc, Thank you for your reply. Now just for my interest can you tell me for a hexagonal crystal structure with two atoms per unit cell and space group P 6 3/m m c ( space group number 194) what would be atoms position to be inserted in GSAS. With best regards, Apu /_/_/

space group + symmetry positions

2004-11-03 Thread Ling Fei Zhang
Dear friends, For ur question, I feel better to you details. simply, I quoted the text from International Crystallographic Volume A for you ref. "An asymmetric unit of a space group is a (simply connected) smallest closed part of space from which, by application of all symmetry operation(hopefull

space group + symmetry positions

2004-11-03 Thread Marc
Dear Apu, your question is very clear: you have determined the space group symmetry from the systematic absences of your powder diagram and then you would like to know where are the atoms in the unit cell, isn't it? I.e. which orbits of the space group are occupied. Answering this question has been

space group + symmetry positions

2004-11-03 Thread apu
Dear All, One thing is sufferring me a lot. I don't have much idea about space groups. In case of giving positions of atoms in GSAS, so far I understand when I am giving the space group information, I should not have to give the positions of all the atoms. It is understood from the space group