Dear Dr. Zhang and Dr. Marc,
Thank you for your reply.

Now just for my interest can you tell me for a hexagonal crystal structure with two 
atoms per unit cell and space group P 6 3/m m c ( space group number 194) what would 
be atoms position to be inserted in GSAS.

With best regards,
Apu

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Apu Sarkar
Research Fellow
Variable Energy Cyclotron Centre
Kolkata 700 064
phone: 91-33-2337-1230 (extn. 3190)
Fax:   91-33-2334-6871 
INDIA
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----- Original Message -----
From: Ling Fei Zhang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Wednesday, November 3, 2004 9:35 pm

> Dear friends,
> 
> For ur question, I feel better to you details.
> 
> simply, I quoted the text from International Crystallographic 
> Volume A for
> you ref.
> "An asymmetric unit of a space group is a (simply connected) 
> smallest closed
> part of space from which, by application of all symmetry 
> operation(hopefullyyou what is symmetry operation, please refer to 
> crystallographic textbook)
> of space group, then the whole space of unit cell is filled with 
> atoms. This
> implies that mirror planes and rotation axes must form boundary 
> planes and
> boundary edges of asymmetric unit. A twofold rotation axis may 
> bisect a
> boundary plane. centres of inversion must either form vertices of the
> asymmetric unit or be located at the midpoints of boundary edges."
> 
> Anyway, the asymmetric unit contains all the necessary information 
> for the
> completion of crystal structure. Mathematically, asymmetric unit 
> is called
> as fundamental region or fundamental domain. Therefore, what you 
> have to put
> in GSAS atom box, is the atomic information of asymmetric unit, 
> and then
> leading to construction the whole crystal structure, generating Bragg
> scattering intensity therewith.
> 
> Given how to  determine the input of asymmetric unit info, there 
> are two
> ways to do so, one of them is extract info from crystal database, 
> however it
> depends, if you got license to get in, alternatively, you should 
> have to
> think it over, and do it by yourself. Whatever you use, you should 
> have a
> perusal of the book i suggest above first.
> 
> with best wishes,
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Rietveld Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 3:53 PM
> 
> 
> >
> > Dear All,
> > One thing is sufferring me a lot. I don't have much idea about space
> groups.
> > In case of giving positions of atoms in GSAS, so far I 
> understand when I
> am giving the space group information, I should not have to give the
> positions of all the atoms. It is understood from the space group
> information.
> >
> > For example: For fcc Nickel with space group 225, I have to only 
> give the
> position of one atom (0,0,0).Not the (0.5,0.5,0.0) ...
> >
> > But I can't understand, if know the space group of a system, how 
> can I
> decide what position and how many atom position I should insert in 
> GSAS.>
> > I will be grateful, if anybody help me in this regard.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Apu
> >
> >
> > /_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/
> > Apu Sarkar
> > Research Fellow
> > Variable Energy Cyclotron Centre
> > Kolkata 700 064
> > phone: 91-33-2337-1230 (extn. 3190)
> > Fax:   91-33-2334-6871
> > INDIA
> > /_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/
> >
> >
> >
> >
> 
> 
> 
> 


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