Re: RAD tool from Borland

2001-03-12 Thread David Elir Evans
Matt Fahrner wrote: > A little late but... > > I think this sounds great but unless they're willing to drop the price > dramatically they're probably going to make this thing be stillborn. I'm > sure some people will pay for it, but Linux people aren't notoriously > generous when it comes to purc

Re: RAD tool from Borland

2001-02-23 Thread John Summerfield
[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: > Afterall, my first time that I tried to report a bug to MS, the > documentation required me to pay as i report ( either through a 1-900 > number, or through credit card ) - otherwise they are not interested. > Maybe things have changed, but what do u do about being burne

Re: RAD tool from Borland

2001-02-22 Thread Uncle George
I guess that would depend on the time frame I was looking at. I use wordperfect 8 ( & predecessors ). I beleive that at the time of my posting there was no response at all. I think that other folks on the list also posted the noticable lack of response to problems. So maybe u see it from the ins

Re: RAD tool from Borland

2001-02-22 Thread Uncle George
My only problem with them (corel) is that u just cant report bugs to them. Sure they say u can post the problems on their mail/list site. But there does not appear to be anyone from corporate listening to the list! /gat Alan Shutko wrote: > > Thornton Prime <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > l

Re: RAD tool from Borland

2001-02-22 Thread Alan Shutko
Uncle George <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > My only problem with them (corel) is that u just cant report bugs to > them. I was a Corel C_Tech, and would funnel bugs to them. You'll notice that there are no updates. > But there does not appear to be anyone from corporate listening to > the list

Re: RAD tool from Borland

2001-02-20 Thread Alan Shutko
Thornton Prime <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > lest they blame the Linux community for poor sales, as we have seen > happen with Adobe, Corel, and other vendors. Corel can blame the community all they want, but if they didn't release such obscenely buggy software, or if they bothered to fix it, or

Re: RAD tool from Borland

2001-02-20 Thread Thornton Prime
On Tue, 20 Feb 2001, John Summerfield wrote: > > Instead of speculating how good Kylix is, sit down and use it for a week. Then > you will have a sound basis for commenting. I haven't used Kylix, but having used C++ Builder and JBuilder for years year, I don't doubt that it is an outstanding pro

Re: RAD tool from Borland

2001-02-20 Thread John Summerfield
[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: > The cost of doing development on Linux with Kylix is already more > expensive than the traditional Linux developer. A Kylix developer will > only be competitive if they can produce better code faster than > someone not using Kylix. I have watched high school students do

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2001-02-19 Thread Matt Fahrner
Original Message Subject: RE: [Fwd: Re: RAD tool from Borland] Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2001 14:09:19 -0800 From: "Ben Riga" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Matt, Thanks for your e-mail. I can appreciate your concern over the Kylix pricing.

Re: RAD tool from Borland

2001-02-18 Thread Donald Dade
;From: Thomas Dodd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Re: RAD tool from Borland >Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 10:51:56 -0600 > >Matt Fahrner wrote: > > > > Is it really in the thousands? I thought these tools were in the

Re: RAD tool from Borland

2001-02-15 Thread Thomas Dodd
Matt Fahrner wrote: > > Is it really in the thousands? I thought these tools were in the $300 to > $500 range... Maybe I just haven't looked carefully lately. Ok, so it's the enterprise versions. Not sure what they offer over the professional versions though. from buy.com: Delphi Pro $277 Delp

Re: RAD tool from Borland

2001-02-15 Thread Matt Fahrner
Is it really in the thousands? I thought these tools were in the $300 to $500 range... Maybe I just haven't looked carefully lately. - Matt Thomas Dodd wrote: > > Matt Fahrner wrote: > > > > A little late but... > > > > I think this sounds great but unless they're willin

Re: RAD tool from Borland

2001-02-15 Thread Thornton Prime
On Thu, 15 Feb 2001, Ed Hill wrote: > > They need to remember that the majority of their potential customers are > > using Emacs, vi, or other free development environments and they need to > > offer both a compelling and competitive feature set as well as a > > competitve price. They also need

Re: RAD tool from Borland

2001-02-15 Thread Thomas Dodd
Ed Hill wrote: > > Thornton Prime wrote: > > > > On Thu, 15 Feb 2001, Thomas Dodd wrote: > > > > > Have you checked the price if Windows tools? > > > Look at Delphi, C++ Builder, or any MS Visual * > > > product. Klyix is on par with the Professional versions > > > of those tools, and priced bett

Re: RAD tool from Borland

2001-02-15 Thread Ed Hill
Thornton Prime wrote: > > On Thu, 15 Feb 2001, Thomas Dodd wrote: > > > Have you checked the price if Windows tools? > > Look at Delphi, C++ Builder, or any MS Visual * > > product. Klyix is on par with the Professional versions > > of those tools, and priced better. (*snip*) > They are introd

Re: RAD tool from Borland

2001-02-15 Thread Thornton Prime
On Thu, 15 Feb 2001, Thomas Dodd wrote: > Have you checked the price if Windows tools? > Look at Delphi, C++ Builder, or any MS Visual * > product. Klyix is on par with the Professional versions > of those tools, and priced better. True ... but just as Windows products are priced competively ag

Re: RAD tool from Borland

2001-02-15 Thread Thomas Dodd
Matt Fahrner wrote: > > A little late but... > > I think this sounds great but unless they're willing to drop the price > dramatically they're probably going to make this thing be stillborn. I'm > sure some people will pay for it, but Linux people aren't notoriously > generous when it comes to p

Re: RAD tool from Borland

2001-02-14 Thread Matt Fahrner
A little late but... I think this sounds great but unless they're willing to drop the price dramatically they're probably going to make this thing be stillborn. I'm sure some people will pay for it, but Linux people aren't notoriously generous when it comes to purchasing products. I think their b

Re: RAD tool from Borland

2001-02-09 Thread John Summerfield
[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: > Kylix == Delphi for linux. > http://www.borland.com/kylix/ > $1000, and $2000 (server version with Apache and Oracle8i tools) > preorder only, supposed to ship March 12. Explains the discount for Delphi users. btw There's an article in APC magazine - http://apcmag.com

Re: RAD tool from Borland

2001-02-08 Thread Thomas Dodd
John Summerfield wrote: > > Application developers (and their colleagues) may be interested about some > mail just dropped in my in box. > > Borland has RAD a product for Linux called Kylix. "It's full-blooded RAD, the > likes of which the mainstream Linux developers have never seen." Kylix ==

RAD tool from Borland

2001-02-08 Thread John Summerfield
Application developers (and their colleagues) may be interested about some mail just dropped in my in box. Borland has RAD a product for Linux called Kylix. "It's full-blooded RAD, the likes of which the mainstream Linux developers have never seen." Take a look at http://www.borland.com.au/p