Re: [RE-wrenches] Insolation radiation to performance numbers...

2008-11-04 Thread Bill Brooks
Don, PV:WATTS version 1 is easiest to use and it is available at http://rredc.nrel.gov/solar/calculators/PVWATTS/version1/. It covers fixed tilt, single- and two-axis tracking for standard crystalline silicon modules. My confusion had to do with whether the 5.9 kWh/m2/day was a fixed tilt value

Re: [RE-wrenches] crystalline VS uni-solar and beyond

2008-11-04 Thread Bill Brooks
Michael, So how many times do they have to replace the modules to get 10% more energy;-) Bill. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael Welch Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 9:54 AM To: RE-wrenches Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] crystalli

Re: [RE-wrenches] Fwd: 2011 NEC PV SUBMISSIONS

2008-11-05 Thread Bill Brooks
oting member. Bill Brooks. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael Welch Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 10:46 AM To: re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Subject: [RE-wrenches] Fwd: 2011 NEC PV SUBMISSIONS Hi gang, received this from John Wiles <[EMAIL P

Re: [RE-wrenches] load side taps and NEC 240.21

2008-12-05 Thread Bill Brooks
Jerry, As pointed out below, this is a load-side bus connection. It would follow the 120% rule if using the 2008 NEC. Since the guy is buddies with the inspector that should be no problem. However, you must follow the 2008 NEC if you want to apply it (tap must be at the opposite end of the bus

Re: [RE-wrenches] Snow Load Data Needed

2008-12-07 Thread Bill Brooks
Carl, The standard for the loading on buildings, by area in the U.S., is ASCE 7-05. It covers wind loads, snow loads, and seismic loads. Many micro-climate regions are handled by the local building department for wind and snow loads. Bill. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTE

Re: [RE-wrenches] SS zip ties

2008-12-11 Thread Bill Brooks
Folks, I'm a bit sour on SS ties. These are easy to overtighten and have caused numerous ground faults in the field. My recommendation is to use UV-resistant black wire ties and install 2-3 times as many as necessary. Sure some will fail over time, but we are much less likely to have ground faults

Re: [RE-wrenches] SS zip ties

2008-12-12 Thread Bill Brooks
Chris, I'm not saying that UV black wire ties are best. I still think that stainless cable clips made by Wiley are probably the best option of all. Wire ties, or your solution, should be used when cable clips can't work. Bill. -Original Message- From: re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenche

Re: [RE-wrenches] Inverter with two strings of different orientation

2008-12-26 Thread Bill Brooks
Peter and Darryl, The right way to do this is using a computer program PVSYST ($800). It will calculate the operating voltage of each string and the overall performance. Not much else out there can calculate it. That being said, the loss of these two orientations will be less than 2% based on the

Re: [RE-wrenches] Inverter with two strings of different orientation

2008-12-27 Thread Bill Brooks
Peter, You are wrong about Vmp being a function of irradiance. It is a function of temperature and remains unchanged from 100 to 1000W/m^2/. Max power trackers look at the product of Volts and amps. The dithering routines can vary dramatically from company to company. Bill. -Original Messa

Re: [RE-wrenches] Inverter with two strings of different orientation

2008-12-29 Thread Bill Brooks
Peter, The more you work with IV curves, the better you will understand them. Since most people don't get the opportunity to use an IV curve tester, the understanding of the curves may need some help. As you pointed out in your "constant temperature" information below, it showed the MPP to be 2 vo

Re: [RE-wrenches] fire safety vs. fire hysteria?

2009-01-05 Thread Bill Brooks
All, There are lots of problems with the facts of this article. The biggest problem is that people will read it and believe it. We have our work cut out on the training side of things. I am personally working with fire fighters and the solar industry to put together some "Myth Buster" style tests

Re: [RE-wrenches] Solyndra solar panels

2009-01-06 Thread Bill Brooks
They are new and cylindrical. Bill. -Original Message- From: re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf Of Bob Clark Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 6:31 AM To: re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Subject: [RE-wrenches] Solyndra so

Re: [RE-wrenches] fire safety vs. fire hysteria?

2009-01-06 Thread Bill Brooks
William and all, I notified a friend of mine in the fire service about this, and he has followed up with the website to have the article removed. Here is the thread with me and the website: Note to me: This article is exactly the same as one I received from a young firefighter from Orange Count

Re: [RE-wrenches] Cable Sizing

2009-01-08 Thread Bill Brooks
Peter, Where do you read the 50% diversity? My 2005 NEC handbook clearly says that the raceway adjustment table is based on NO diversity--all conductors loaded at maximum. Bill. -Original Message- From: re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrench

Re: [RE-wrenches] fire safety vs. fire hysteria?

2009-01-08 Thread Bill Brooks
All, Here is the refuting post by my friend Matt Paiss of the San Jose Fire Department. Our thanks go out to him for his responsiveness. It is now posted on the homepage of www.FireFighterCloseCalls.com FIREFIGHTING AND SOLAR PANELS: FACT VS FICTION URL: http://firefighterclosecalls.com/fullstor

Re: [RE-wrenches] Cable Sizing

2009-01-08 Thread Bill Brooks
c. 820 Cynthia Ave., Los Angeles, CA 90065 Ph 323-258-8883, Mobile 323-839-6108, Fax 323-258-8885 CA Lic. 854779, NABCEP Cert. 031806-26 peter.parr...@calsolareng.com -Original Message- From: re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On B

Re: [RE-wrenches] Cable Sizing

2009-01-08 Thread Bill Brooks
Peter, No--is that short enough. Imax is defined by 690.8(A). Imax is the value used for doing all conditions of use calculations including temperature corrections, conduit fill, and sunlight impact. The overcurrent protection device (OCPD) must be sized to 125% of Imax for continuous operation

Re: [RE-wrenches] fire safety vs. fire hysteria?

2009-01-08 Thread Bill Brooks
All, This message from Matt Paiss shows that the message is getting out: Bill, Not only did it go on their homepage, but it got sent out on what they call their "Secret List", which is not really very secret, as it has a subscriber base of somewhere near 100,000. Needless to say, my inbox, cell

Re: [RE-wrenches] dpw top of pole mount pipe problems

2009-02-02 Thread Bill Brooks
Ryan, I agree with Roy, if you install the PV system on that cast iron pipe, without any engineering to back it up, you might as well pull out a pistol and shoot yourself today and get it over with. Unless the wind never blows where you live, another hole needs to be bored and a the correct Sch

Re: [RE-wrenches] Panel Fire

2009-02-11 Thread Bill Brooks
Wrenches, Thanks to the wind-sun folks for sharing this fire story. There is a lot of conjecture in the thread, and much of it is wrong. With all due respect to Solar-Guppy, PV module encapsulant, EVA, is highly flammable, and tedlar will burn as well. The good news is that there is not a lot o

Re: [RE-wrenches] Panel Fire

2009-02-11 Thread Bill Brooks
Wrenches, After looking more closely at the pictures, it appears that they may not be glass-covered modules. Given the poor manufacturing practices, this was a fire waiting to happen the moment they turned it on. The amazing thing is that the installer is going to reinstall the module-and b

Re: [RE-wrenches] inverter search

2009-02-11 Thread Bill Brooks
Marco, Is 100V the absolute floor, or is it the normal operating voltage. I believe the Power-One inverter can go down to 90V. Bill. -Original Message- From: re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf Of Marco Sent: Wednesday, F

Re: [RE-wrenches] Wrenches attending AEE Dealer Conference?

2009-02-11 Thread Bill Brooks
I'll be teaching Thursday afternoon and Friday morning. See you there. Bill. -Original Message- From: re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf Of David Palumbo Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 7:51 PM To: RE-wrenches Subject:

Re: [RE-wrenches] Beat your local AHJ's over the head if you have to...

2009-02-25 Thread Bill Brooks
Ryan and Matt, There are significant efforts underway to standardize permitting. Too many efforts are going on that will cause a proliferation of different ideas, rather than standardization. The ICC Tri-Chapter document is good, as it is based on the SMUD document, but it falls significantly shor

Re: [RE-wrenches] Beat your local AHJ's over the head if youhave to...

2009-02-26 Thread Bill Brooks
ll require more documentation, but a standardized permit package would eliminate a lot of Building & Safety Departments' ambiguous subjectivity. Best regards, Joel Davidson ----- Original Message - From: "Bill Brooks" To: "'RE-wrenches'" Sent: Wednesday,

Re: [RE-wrenches] 4/0 GEC

2009-03-03 Thread Bill Brooks
Drake, The size of the GEC is limited by the grounding electrode system. Keep that in mind since that normally limits the size of the GEC dramatically. Bill. -Original Message- From: re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf Of

Re: [RE-wrenches] DunPower modules

2009-03-20 Thread Bill Brooks
Jeff, Although some of what you say is true-and anyone allowed to install SunPower modules should be intimately aware of the positive grounding requirement-they actually can be installed on ungrounded and bi-polar arrays with the inclusion of some wiz-bang depolizerinators ;-). Bottom line

Re: [RE-wrenches] cell thickness and handling modules (was Sunpower modules)

2009-03-20 Thread Bill Brooks
Joel, My understanding is that some of the manufacturers are able to cut so thin with current wire saws that the cells become flexible--almost like paper. It presents other concerns, but these newer technologies might actually be solving some of the cracking problems of the past. It is a brave new

Re: [RE-wrenches] Solyndra

2009-03-25 Thread Bill Brooks
Keith, Since it seems quite quiet on this subject, I have to ask why a SHARP guy like you would consider such a rounded or Solindrical technology. Actually, I have heard through the grape vine that their products have an interesting performance characteristic in that their output looks similar

Re: [RE-wrenches] Mixing and Matching PV modules--Error Corrected

2009-03-31 Thread Bill Brooks
Peter, Although last time we discussed, you didn't seem to agree with me, I guess I'll try responding to this question. The best situation is to keep the two strings of modules in their own strings. 7 of the older in series, paralleled with the 7 of the newer in series. The operating voltages, an

Re: [RE-wrenches] Mixing and Matching PV modules--Error Corrected

2009-04-01 Thread Bill Brooks
A 90065 Ph 323-258-8883, Mobile 323-839-6108, Fax 323-258-8885 CA Lic. 854779, NABCEP Cert. 031806-26 peter.parr...@calsolareng.com -Original Message- From: re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf Of Bill Brooks Sent: Mon

Re: [RE-wrenches] Megger Testers

2009-04-13 Thread Bill Brooks
Kingsley, The concern I have about this unit, and many other inexpensive ones like it, is that it does not have enough resolution in the low impedance area. PV arrays can have an impedance to ground of as low as 2kOhms. A resolution of 0.1MOhms will likely not cut it. I just bought a $175 me

Re: [RE-wrenches] Sanyo Bi-facial

2009-04-14 Thread Bill Brooks
August, A very annoying aspect of this manufacturer's brochure is that the cute bar graph has a fairly large error. What the heck does "Daily Average Power Generation" mean. I think they mean energy. Just a nit-picky pet peeve of mine that we see too often in the energy world. The data on t

Re: [RE-wrenches] Sanyo Semi-facial

2009-04-14 Thread Bill Brooks
Doug, That is why I made the comment that their panels tend to be underrated (a good and rare thing). One of the reasons is due to the article that Joel posted a link to earlier (the Japanese govt. hammered them for overrating). The product has not been on the market (or even in existence) long en

Re: [RE-wrenches] Sanyo Bi-facial

2009-04-14 Thread Bill Brooks
It's just a pity that our solar system only has a single sun. This product was really built for a 2-sun solar system. It is nice to have a module that looks good from underneath. That is probably the biggest benefit. To claim any improvement other than aesthetics is difficult. I have seen data that

Re: [RE-wrenches] Sanyo Semi-facial

2009-04-15 Thread Bill Brooks
Geoff, Daryl, and others, To be clear, Sanyo's product is not an amorphous-silicon (a-Si) product. It has a-Si coatings that help with the electron flow at the surface of the cell. There is no reason to believe that the Staebler-Wronski effect, so well known over the past 30 years, has any impact

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