[RE-wrenches] SMA 1800u not generating power

2015-07-24 Thread Jason Szumlanski
I am looking at a 1800u from 2004 that has a green light and in mpp mode, but Pac is zero. Grid and DC voltage are good. No other indication of problems. I saw Pac tick up to 2W a couple of times, but that's it. It's just not delivering AC power. Any thoughts? Sadly, it doesn't make much financ

Re: [RE-wrenches] SMA 1800u not generating power

2015-07-24 Thread Sky Sims
This is a known issue. I've come across a bunch of their inverters that have had this problem. In addition to seeing this issue on their 1800's I've seen it happen on their 2500's as well. Shows a solid green light but isn't putting out power. The first time I came across this issue they had a

Re: [RE-wrenches] SMA 1800u not generating power

2015-07-24 Thread Jason Szumlanski
Someone contacted me off list and said this company does out of warranty SMA repairs: http://www.shop.solarcowboyzoutlet.com/Inverter-Repair-Service-Inverter-Repair-Service.htm Looks like there is a risk in how big the repair is, but apparently they are willing to talk about the diagnostics befor

Re: [RE-wrenches] SMA 1800u not generating power

2015-07-24 Thread jerrysgarage01
SMA used to to do repairs but last I heard they no longer have replacement parts. I have used the new SMA TL-22 because of the low voltage dc input. If you added some additional modules to the "B" input it might qualify for the tax credit (I did say might) Good luck Jerry Sent via the Samsung

Re: [RE-wrenches] SMA 1800u not generating power

2015-07-24 Thread Glenn Burt
How do you get around the code requirement for the use of PV wire with a TL inverter on the existing array? Sincerely, Glenn Burt Sent from my 'smart' phone so please excuse grammar and typos. -Original Message- From: "jerrysgarage01" Sent: ‎7/‎24/‎2015 12:57 To: "RE-wrenches" Subject:

Re: [RE-wrenches] SMA 1800u not generating power

2015-07-24 Thread jerrysgarage01
Replacing the wire would be in most cases a simple solution Jerry Sent via the Samsung Galaxy S™ III, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone Original message From: Glenn Burt Date:07/24/2015 8:14 AM (GMT-10:00) To: RE-wrenches Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] SMA 1800u not generating power

Re: [RE-wrenches] SMA 1800u not generating power

2015-07-24 Thread August Goers
Hi Glenn and All – Most of these old systems have module cables made out of USE-2. So, just changing out the array USE-2 home runs won’t technically cut it. Something should be written into the code to allow old systems to use TL inverters for upgrades, especially since TL inverters are safer

Re: [RE-wrenches] SMA 1800u not generating power

2015-07-24 Thread Jerry Shafer
>From what I was told from SMA the board level components are no longer available from there lower level manufactures. Jerry On Jul 24, 2015 9:30 AM, "August Goers" wrote: > Hi Glenn and All – > > > > Most of these old systems have module cables made out of USE-2. So, just > changing out the arra

Re: [RE-wrenches] SMA 1800u not generating power

2015-07-24 Thread William Miller
Put it in conduit. > On Jul 24, 2015, at 8:14 PM, Glenn Burt wrote: > > How do you get around the code requirement for the use of PV wire with a TL > inverter on the existing array? > > Sincerely, > Glenn Burt > Sent from my 'smart' phone so please excuse grammar and typos. > From: jerrysga

Re: [RE-wrenches] SMA 1800u not generating power

2015-07-24 Thread Glenn Burt
All the way back to the module jboxes? Sounds pricey. That is assuming the module jboxes accept conduit. Indeed it I not only the home runs that need to be concerned with the PV rating, but the module conductors as well, as there is no distinction made in the code between them. Sincerely, Glenn

Re: [RE-wrenches] SMA 1800u not generating power

2015-07-24 Thread Jerry Shafer
There you go, I just assumed it was Jerry On Jul 24, 2015 10:59 AM, "William Miller" wrote: > Put it in conduit. > > > > On Jul 24, 2015, at 8:14 PM, Glenn Burt wrote: > > How do you get around the code requirement for the use of PV wire with a > TL inverter on the existing array? > > Sincerely,

Re: [RE-wrenches] SMA 1800u not generating power

2015-07-24 Thread billbrooks7
Glenn, While the installation may not claim exact compliance with the current NEC (debatable), you can easily show that the TL inverter is much safer than the older 1800U. The TL has arc-fault detection and much better ground-fault detection. Conduit is not the answer since it breaks several

Re: [RE-wrenches] SMA 1800u not generating power

2015-07-24 Thread Glenn Burt
Bill, Thanks for chiming in and going on the record with a good position! -Glenn Burt From: RE-wrenches [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf Of billbroo...@sbcglobal.net Sent: Friday, July 24, 2015 7:07 PM To: 'RE-wrenches' Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] SMA 1800u n

Re: [RE-wrenches] DC conductor line loss numbers

2015-07-24 Thread Jerry Shafer
Wrenches I have 3 engineering firms and one in-house engineer that only use 1% because in the NEC it is stated as a suggestion and not a requirement but they take this as a must not exceed instead, I cant change CC as it will be remotely monitored via the Outback connection, the Engineers refuse to

Re: [RE-wrenches] DC conductor line loss numbers

2015-07-24 Thread William Miller
I have worked out the area under the daily bell curve. A 2% loss at max current equals 1% loss average. Maybe this logic could allow some flexibility. William > On Jul 25, 2015, at 5:52 AM, Jerry Shafer wrote: > > Wrenches > I have 3 engineering firms and one in-house engineer that only use