Re: [RE-wrenches] PV Production Meter on a XW System

2012-08-27 Thread Drake
Is the E-Guage a revenue rated meter, acceptable for selling S-RECs? At 10:03 AM 8/25/2012, you wrote: But you can use one e-Guage to look at 6 different current flows. The e-guage has 12 CT inputs, and shows all the data online. On Sat, Aug 25, 2012 at 9:17 AM, Drake <

Re: [RE-wrenches] DC relay

2012-08-27 Thread Christopher Warfel
Thank you for the help! On 8/26/2012 1:14 PM, Maverick Brown [Maverick Solar] wrote: If you need a single pole single throw (SPST), search www.mouser.com for D1D40 or D06D60. If not SPST, then you use there relay search tool to find what you need. Grainger.com and Dig

Re: [RE-wrenches] DC relay

2012-08-27 Thread Christopher Warfel
Thank you for the help! On 8/26/2012 12:54 PM, Jay Peltz wrote: Yep. Solid state relay. Grainger would have them. Get the heat sink also. Jay Peltz power Sent from my iPhone On Aug 26, 2012, at 8:53 AM, mac Lewis > wrote: Hi Wrenches, Does anyone have a recommen

Re: [RE-wrenches] DC relay

2012-08-27 Thread Christopher Warfel
Thank you for the help! On 8/26/2012 1:20 PM, Jason Lerner wrote: Hi Mac, I don't know how their prices compare but the folks at http://power-io.com/ have been great for us. Best, Jason Lerner Waldron Power and Light Co. On Aug 26, 2012, at 8:53 AM, mac Lewis wrote: Hi Wrenches, Does

Re: [RE-wrenches] DC relay

2012-08-27 Thread Christopher Warfel
Thank Jim,Chris On 8/26/2012 5:01 PM, Solarguy wrote: Allied Electronics has a big selection of DIN mount and surface mount relays. Also a number of connectors and other solar devices. http://www.alliedelec.com/catalog/pf.aspx?fn=1145.pdf Jim Duncan Hi Wrenches, Does anyone have a recommen

Re: [RE-wrenches] PV Production Meter on a XW System

2012-08-27 Thread Chris Mason
I don't believe so. On Mon, Aug 27, 2012 at 9:38 AM, Drake wrote: > Is the E-Guage a revenue rated meter, acceptable for selling S-RECs? > > At 10:03 AM 8/25/2012, you wrote: > > But you can use one e-Guage to look at 6 different current flows. The > e-guage has 12 CT inputs, and shows all the

Re: [RE-wrenches] Motech Inverter Warranty

2012-08-27 Thread Jason Szumlanski
I finally found an email contact at Motech in Taiwan. It looks like I am going to get warranty satisfaction. Let me know if you need it off-list. The experience has been less than stellar to say the least. Fortunately, we only have a few of their inverters out there. Jason Szumlanski Fafco Solar

[RE-wrenches] PV Powered Preventative Maintenance

2012-08-27 Thread Jason Szumlanski
Does anyone know what is included in the optional Preventative Maintenance program from the manufacturer? I can't find any documentation on it. Is it just a one-time maintenance, or an ongoing program? Based on the cost I was quoted, it looks like a one-shot deal. Seems strange... Jason Szumlansk

Re: [RE-wrenches] Motech Inverter Warranty

2012-08-27 Thread Jesse Dahl
Did Silicon Energy get its inverter from Motech? I think they did. I have one installed and I would like that info if something comes up. Jesse Sent from my iPhone On Aug 27, 2012, at 1:48 PM, Jason Szumlanski wrote: > I finally found an email contact at Motech in Taiwan. It looks like I am

[RE-wrenches] Ilsco SGB bonding lug

2012-08-27 Thread benn kilburn
Wrenches, What is your take on this product from Ilsco? It appears to be a good option for bonding module frames and has been suggested by a distributor for bonding rails as well…. But industry best practice has steered us away from using aluminum lugs in favour of tin-plated copper lugs. SGB S

Re: [RE-wrenches] Ilsco SGB bonding lug

2012-08-27 Thread Brian Mehalic
I believe the UL467 listing means that it is rated for direct burial/outdoor use. Brian Mehalic NABCEP Certified Solar PV Installer™ R031508-59 IREC ISPQ Certified Affiliated Instructor/PV US-0132 PV Curriculum Developer and Instructor Solar Energy International http://www.solarenergy.org On M

Re: [RE-wrenches] Ilsco SGB bonding lug

2012-08-27 Thread Jason Szumlanski
Grounding rods that are UL467 listed don't necessarily list outdoor rated as a specification. That is implied I believe. You probably wouldn't need these lugs for those indoor PV modules. :) I like the looks of that lug. However, I've been using WEEBs too long to go back now. Jason Szumlanski Fa

Re: [RE-wrenches] Ilsco SGB bonding lug

2012-08-27 Thread Jay Peltz
Hi Brian Isn't another way to go: Use the AL lugs and AL grounding wire? Jay Peltz power Sent from my iPhone On Aug 27, 2012, at 12:53 PM, Brian Mehalic wrote: > I believe the UL467 listing means that it is rated for direct burial/outdoor > use. > > Brian Mehalic > NABCEP Certified Solar

Re: [RE-wrenches] Ilsco SGB bonding lug

2012-08-27 Thread Bill Hoffer
Jay Seems to be the preferred method in salt spray environments like the South Pacific Islands! Copper and Aluminum don't play well together under those conditions Bill Hoffer On Mon, Aug 27, 2012 at 1:04 PM, Jay Peltz wrote: > Hi Brian > > Isn't another way to go: > Use the AL lugs and AL gr

Re: [RE-wrenches] Ilsco SGB bonding lug

2012-08-27 Thread David Brearley
Some of the aluminum lugs are indoor-rated. They have a set screw will rust in an outdoor environment. That's one of the classic John Wiles slides. I'd just watch out for that On Aug 27, 2012, at 3:04 PM, Jay Peltz wrote: > Hi Brian > > Isn't another way to go: > Use the AL lugs and AL gro

Re: [RE-wrenches] Ilsco SGB bonding lug

2012-08-27 Thread Jason Szumlanski
Yeah, but this one is marketed as a solar bonding lug. I think it's safe to say that it appropriately rated for outdoor use. It's always good to double-check, of course. Jason Szumlanski Fafco Solar On Mon, Aug 27, 2012 at 4:11 PM, David Brearley < david.brear...@solarprofessional.com> wrote:

Re: [RE-wrenches] Ilsco SGB bonding lug

2012-08-27 Thread David Brearley
Yes, sorry. I wasn't speaking of this lug...I like the redesign. Looks quicker and easier and robust. On Aug 27, 2012, at 3:17 PM, Jason Szumlanski wrote: > Yeah, but this one is marketed as a solar bonding lug. I think it's safe to > say that it appropriately rated for outdoor use. It's always

Re: [RE-wrenches] Ilsco SGB bonding lug

2012-08-27 Thread Gary Willett
Here's the Ilsco listing from UL, where it's classed as "Grounding and Bonding Equipment": http://database.ul.com/cgi-bin/XYV/template/LISEXT/1FRAME/showpage.html?name=KDER.E34440&ccnshorttitle=Grounding+and+Bonding+Equipment&objid=1074099002&cfgid=1073741824&version=versionless&parent_id=1073988

Re: [RE-wrenches] Ilsco SGB bonding lug

2012-08-27 Thread William Miller
Benn: Good looking lug, looks very useful. It won't do any good on the Solar World Plus series unless they have the version 2.5 frame. The standard frame has no flange! William Miller At 12:49 PM 8/27/2012, you wrote: Wrenches, What is your take on this product from Ilsco? It appears t

[RE-wrenches] Fronius replacement

2012-08-27 Thread William Miller
Friends: We have a client that wants to divest of 8 Fronius LG-4500 LV inverters. They are experiencing a high number of failures. The Fronius have an unusually low DC input window: 150 to 450 VDC. This means the stringing will result in a lower voltages than typically found and makes it

Re: [RE-wrenches] Fronius replacement

2012-08-27 Thread David Brearley
Off the top of my head...Power-One? You can download an Excel file with comprehensive string inverter specs here: http://solarprofessional.com/webexclusive/ On Aug 27, 2012, at 4:06 PM, William Miller wrote: > Friends: > > We have a client that wants to divest of 8 Fronius LG-4500 LV inverte

Re: [RE-wrenches] Fronius replacement

2012-08-27 Thread Jesse Dahl
I think some Solectria inverters have a low number (115vdc). The Solectrias I have worked with had a max DC voltage of 400vdc though. Jesse Sent from my iPhone On Aug 27, 2012, at 4:13 PM, David Brearley wrote: > Off the top of my head...Power-One? > > You can download an Excel file with co

[RE-wrenches] Neutral to ground bond in a wye wound secondary

2012-08-27 Thread William Miller
Friends: We came across an interesting situation in a local winery recently: The service is 480 volts and the inverters are operating at 208 volts. To make the two systems connect, the original installer integrated a 480 Delta to 208 Wye transformer, pretty standard procedure. We found a st

Re: [RE-wrenches] Neutral to ground bond in a wye wound secondary

2012-08-27 Thread Richard L Ratico
William, The transformer creates a Separately Derived System. You need to bond the the neutral, and the equipment ground there or at the first Disconnecting Means, which would be the combiner panel. The chosen bonding point must also be connected to a grounding electrode. Per2011 NEC 250.30. Dic

Re: [RE-wrenches] Disconnets

2012-08-27 Thread Ryan Mayfield
Jesse, You may want to check out the new(ish) line from GE and Eaton. Both have 600VDC listings, Eaton's newer line has 3 and 6 pole versions available. I have the Eaton disconnects specified for an upcoming job but I haven't used either as of yet. http://www.geindustrial.com/cwc/Dispatcher?R

Re: [RE-wrenches] Ilsco SGB bonding lug

2012-08-27 Thread benn kilburn
Thanks for the feedback Wrenches, lots of interesting comments, However I'm still wonderingŠ.. How does one confirm that it is specifically approved for outdoor use? Other than assuming it is implied (because it is 'marketed' as a solar lug). As far as I can tell UL 467 does not imply "outdoor rat

Re: [RE-wrenches] Ilsco SGB bonding lug

2012-08-27 Thread Kirpal Khalsa
Benn...it looks like that lug has "stainless hardware for corrosion resistance" as stated on the brochureThat would be the biggest consideration as David Brearly mentioned earlier in regards to rust potential. Stainless hardware and tin plating is equivalent to the WEEB lugsTin plating an

Re: [RE-wrenches] Ilsco SGB bonding lug

2012-08-27 Thread Exeltech
When in doubt .. ask the manufacturer. Dan --- On Mon, 8/27/12, Kirpal Khalsa wrote: From: Kirpal Khalsa Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Ilsco SGB bonding lug To: "RE-wrenches" Date: Monday, August 27, 2012, 6:42 PM Benn...it looks like that lug has "stainless hardware for corrosion resistance"

Re: [RE-wrenches] Ilsco SGB bonding lug

2012-08-27 Thread benn kilburn
Kirpal. The Ilsco lug GBL-4 also comes with a stainless steel set-screwŠ as stated hereŠ.GBL LAY-IN AL/CU if that is all it takes to use the AL lug outdoors (st

Re: [RE-wrenches] Ilsco SGB bonding lug

2012-08-27 Thread Brian Mehalic
I think the tin plating is to minimize/eliminate galvanic corrosion. Tim plated aluminum - now that sounds smart! Typos courtesy of my iPhone. On Aug 27, 2012, at 8:52 PM, benn kilburn wrote: > Kirpal. > > The Ilsco lug GBL-4 also comes with a stainless steel set-screw… as stated > here….GB

Re: [RE-wrenches] Ilsco SGB bonding lug

2012-08-27 Thread Bill Brooks
Benn, This product appears to be significantly superior to the old-school ILSCO tin-plated copper lugs. While those lugs may have been the best thing going 10 years ago, there have been many improvements. This looks like one of them. I would argue with the statement that tin-plated copper is in

Re: [RE-wrenches] Ilsco SGB bonding lug

2012-08-27 Thread David Brearley
Yep. Definitely lower cost that tin-plated copper. Designed with PV frame grounding in mind. Lots to like On Aug 27, 2012, at 7:59 PM, Brian Mehalic wrote: > I think the tin plating is to minimize/eliminate galvanic corrosion. Tim > plated aluminum - now that sounds smart! > > Typos court

Re: [RE-wrenches] Solmetric PVA and Tigo

2012-08-27 Thread Bill Brooks
Jesse, I'm not sure what you are referring to about PVA and optimizers. I'm not going to comment about optimizers although they seem very cool. I don't have a lot of personal experience with dc optimizers yet. I am very familiar with the Solmetric PV Analyzer which is an I-V curve tracer. It is t

[RE-wrenches] Blue type

2012-08-27 Thread William Miller
Friends: My tired old eyes really have trouble focusing on the blue type. Can we stick with plain old black, please? Thanks, William ___ List sponsored by Home Power magazine List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Options & settings: ht