Re: [RE-wrenches] Generators and Grid-tie Systems

2010-03-02 Thread Drake Chamberlin
At 06:50 PM 3/1/2010, you wrote: You Wrote "This is déjà vu. The only other choice would be to use a contactor to ensure PV disconnection when the grid is down - then you could tap the PV on the load side of the transfer switch." This is definitely deja vu all over again. A system I de

Re: [RE-wrenches] Generators and Grid-tie Systems

2010-03-02 Thread Drake Chamberlin
I was recently told by SMA that in the event that the inverters did connect to generator output, and the load was less than the inverter output, that the voltage would rise and the inverters would fall off line. A year or so before I'd been told by another SMA representative that generator c

[RE-wrenches] acre/MW

2010-03-02 Thread Michael Gullo
Esteemed wrenches: We are bidding on an industrial sized project. What is the approximate land usage of a ground array in acre/MW. I have estimated around 5 acre/MW but I'm really not sure if I am way high or low. Thanks. Mike Michael Gullo Solar Solutions LLC Marlton, NJ NABCEP Certified PV I

Re: [RE-wrenches] acre/MW

2010-03-02 Thread Kirpal Khalsa
Denver International airport just installed 1.6 megawatt on 9 acres. -- Sunny Regards, Kirpal Khalsa NABCEP Certified Solar PV Installer Renewable Energy Systems www.oregonsolarworks.com 541-218-0201 m 541-592-3958 o On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 7:23 AM, Michael Gullo wrote: > Esteemed wrench

Re: [RE-wrenches] acre/MW

2010-03-02 Thread Scott McCalmont
It will depend on the technology of the modules, too--whether you're using monocrystalline, poly, or thin-film. I recently spec'ed a thin-film design which worked out to 150 kW per acre. With more efficient modules you could be 50% better, so your 5 acre/MW number is reasonable. It also will depen

Re: [RE-wrenches] Generators and Grid-tie Systems

2010-03-02 Thread Michael Kelly
All, If the grid-tie inverter is operating under UL1741 (and therefore IEEE1547), then the inverter has to cease output within 1 second of the voltage going over 10% of the base voltage. So in the case where the generator is outputting and the load is less than the inverter output, the voltage wi

Re: [RE-wrenches] Generators and Grid-tie Systems

2010-03-02 Thread Jason Szumlanski
While inverters are supposed to work this way, and do so very well on the grid, have any inverters been formally TESTED with various generators to confirm the theory? Anecdotes and theories are not enough. Until there are TESTS and guarantees from inverter manufacturers that expensive generator co

Re: [RE-wrenches] Generators and Grid-tie Systems

2010-03-02 Thread Darryl Thayer
Hello all I am under a time line so I do not have time to review until later. But I have tried a few times and I can not ever get a grid tied inverter to sync with a generator. I have been successful with bimodal (Battery based)inverters in a varied ways. (Apollo, Outback, Xantrex) A word

Re: [RE-wrenches] Generators and Grid-tie Systems

2010-03-02 Thread Hugh
I know a guy in Colombia who connects his Magnatek Aurora inverter to a genset when the grid is down. Seems to work most of the time. He's got some sort of chinese turbine and chinese controller that dumps power off the back-up generator when necessary. Isn't there some way to detect reverse

[RE-wrenches] Fed. 30% grant to businesses

2010-03-02 Thread Eric Andrews
Has anyone worked through the process of getting their customer a federal grant in lieu of the tax credit? (supplying more of the endless paperwork to the accountant) One of the requirements is that a PE stamp the design. The requirement is vague and it does not say what kind of PE or systems o

Re: [RE-wrenches] Fed. 30% grant to businesses

2010-03-02 Thread matt
We have had clients receive the grant without the PE stamp (only on installs under 10 kW so far). Part of the paperwork was an affidavit that the system was standard design and met all codes in the jurisdiction. We included a wiring diagram. Matt Matthew Partymiller Solar Energy Solutions LLC

Re: [RE-wrenches] Fed. 30% grant to businesses

2010-03-02 Thread Kirpal Khalsa
Eric..greetingsyes this process is definitely long and far from clear.we have also inquired as to what type of engineering report they require..we have received no clear answer.we have submitted one application with another set to start the process tomorrowthe first one was

Re: [RE-wrenches] Generators and Grid-tie Systems

2010-03-02 Thread Dana Brandt
SMA has an intelligent dump load that works with their AC coupled systems. It's call a Smart Load, but I don't think they have a UL listed version. SMA has some pretty impressive technology along the lines of AC coupling that they've chosen not to make for the US market. Dana Dana Brandt Ecotech