Re: [RE-wrenches] Exeltech Inverters

2009-11-17 Thread Max Balchowsky
I, too, have had some experience with Exeltech. I think it's an excellent product and the installs I've done have been trouble free. It's a little on the pricey side but an excellent system. I liked the fact that everything is rack mounted. Max Balchowsky SEE Systems 760-403-6810 __

Re: [RE-wrenches] Tape for attaching NEC Labels

2009-11-17 Thread Matt Lafferty
Hi Bob, 3M VHB 4945 is the good stuff. You will need to properly prepare both surfaces for best adhesion. Do not assume that just wiping the surface with a rag will suffice. Particularly painted &/or oxidized surfaces. Use a cleaning agent and clean rags or cloths. Works best with moderate temper

[RE-wrenches] Bonding Rails

2009-11-17 Thread Peter Parrish
We have been using WEEB clips on all of our installations for over a year now. We include the WEEB data/installation sheets in our permit package and patiently point out the clips to inspectors who haven't seen the WEEB system yet. Two questions: (1) For ProSolar rails, can we use one

Re: [RE-wrenches] Bonding Rails

2009-11-17 Thread Michael Kelly
Peter, I've never used the ProSolar rails, so I can't speak to 1). On 2), yes, you must bond the rails with a listed device if they are not bonded to the modules. The nice thing about the WEEB is that it allows one to bond the modules and rails together, and then you can pick up the bond from th

Re: [RE-wrenches] Bonding Rails

2009-11-17 Thread Dave Click
Peter, (1) it appears that per the WEEB installation manual: http://www.we-llc.com/Datasheets/104-0404-08-008.pdf (page 8) you need to have one WEEB per module rather than one for every other module as you suggest. (2) 690.43 Equipment Grounding. Exposed non–current-carrying metal parts of

Re: [RE-wrenches] Bonding Rails

2009-11-17 Thread Peter Parrish
On page 8 it would appear that we need TWO WEEB clips bonding modules A and B to rails #1 and #2 and another TWO WEEB clips bonding modules C and D to rails #1 and #2, etc. - Peter -Original Message- From: re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenc

[RE-wrenches] Splice Caps

2009-11-17 Thread Peter Parrish
We have been using Buchanan brand "splice caps" to splice two to three #10 Cu EGCs inside 3R-rated j-boxes. Is there an approved methodology for splicing ECGs under PV modules (i.e. exposed to the elements). I understand that otherwise listed lay-in lugs are not acceptable for double lugging. - Pet

Re: [RE-wrenches] Splice Caps

2009-11-17 Thread Chris Anderson
What economical splice hardware are people using when you don't have two end of a ground wires to land in the Buchanan Splice Caps? Split bolts are mighty expensive -Chris Anderson Chief Technology Officer Resources Group C: 603-732-2411 Borrego Solar Systems -Original Message-

Re: [RE-wrenches] Bonding Rails

2009-11-17 Thread Dave Click
Yes, that's correct. In my answer I was just rephrasing it to say you'd need twice as many WEEBs as you think. As I understand it, the intent of this layout is to give the installer two chances to bond each module properly to the rail. Unirac has a similar requirement for its UGC-1s on SolarMo

Re: [RE-wrenches] Bonding Rails

2009-11-17 Thread Peter Parrish
That still works to approximately one clip per rail (actually N-1 clips for N modules). - Peter Peter T. Parrish, Ph.D., President California Solar Engineering, Inc. 820 Cynthia Ave., Los Angeles, CA 90065 CA Lic. 854779, NABCEP Cert. 031806-2

[RE-wrenches] SW 4024 now grid tie

2009-11-17 Thread Dana
Hey all, I have a client who was off grid and is now grid tied and has [2] Trace SW 4024 Inverters. I realize the parameters are not the best for high efficiency but the client is not into changing out to newer equipment. Whom at which telephone @ Xantrex might be the best bet to talk to fo

Re: [RE-wrenches] Splice Caps

2009-11-17 Thread August Goers
Chris - We use these Panduit C-taps: http://pdf.directindustry.com/pdf/panduit/panduit-catalog/12722-23882-_455.html They work great and the compression tool is relatively inexpensive but there is question about whether they're listed for use with solid wire. -August August Goers Luminalt En

Re: [RE-wrenches] Bonding Rails

2009-11-17 Thread Kirpal Khalsa
Hey GuysUnirac recently changed their requirement to 2 clips between each module...one on the upper rail and one on the lower rail..therefore by my count you need 2N-2 clips for N modules, you don't need any clips at the ends of the row of modules the link to their diagram and

Re: [RE-wrenches] SW 4024 now grid tie

2009-11-17 Thread Mark . Edmunds
Hi Dana - I will get Nick Klein from our tech support team to contact you about this to see if there is anything you can do. Generally an additional GTI unit is required to enable the grid-tie capability of the SW series, and I think they are pretty hard to find these days. Cheers, Mark __

Re: [RE-wrenches] Splice Caps

2009-11-17 Thread Kent Osterberg
August, If these are equivalent to the T&B part, they are rated for solid or stranded wire.  Take a look at page B43 of http://www-public.tnb.com/contractor/docs/colorkeyed_spec.pdf Sorry, it's a 14 MB file. Kent Osterberg Blue Mountain Solar August Goers wrote: Chris - We use these Pan

[RE-wrenches] SW 4024 now grid tie

2009-11-17 Thread William Korthof
We have three of the Xantrex/Trace GTI units, with one "still-in-the- box-new" from applications that got modified. They're collecting dust on the shelf... I'd be more than happy to send them to a new home and free up space. William Korthof Energy Efficiency Solar/ Acro (714) 875-3576 1.

[RE-wrenches] SWR2500U Inverter

2009-11-17 Thread Joel Davidson
Wrenches, Our customer has 24 each Kyocera KC130 modules and wants to go grid-tied. Can he use an SMA SWR2500U inverter with the fan kit? Is there a better inverter that will use all of his modules? If you have an SWR2500U or a better inverter option for sale, please contact me off-list. Thank

Re: [RE-wrenches] Splice Caps

2009-11-17 Thread August Goers
Kent, Yea, it seems that the T&B parts are rated for #10 through #6 solid wire but not if you're splicing #4 or greater. I can't say for sure that the Panduit part is the same but I know from experience that the bond is excellent. They truly are basically "irreversible" in that you need to cut

Re: [RE-wrenches] SW 4024 now grid tie

2009-11-17 Thread toddcory
Here is an old 2001 posting from Bill Brooks... William, Marco, and Jeff C., Here is the method I found to be most effective: INVERTER SETUP (MENU 9) set to SELL BATTERY CHARGING (MENU 10) set ABSORPTION TIME to 0:00 on both machines. set MAX CHARGE AMPS to 1 amp on both machines. BATTERY SE

Re: [RE-wrenches] SW 4024 now grid tie

2009-11-17 Thread William Miller
Friends: For your SW4024 to connect to a GTI, it needs to be "GTI-ready." A GTI-ready inverter has a second modular connector on the circuit board near the AC connections. This is for the data link to the GTI. Way back when, Xantrex was taking back SW inverters to modify and redeploy. I d

Re: [RE-wrenches] SWR2500U Inverter

2009-11-17 Thread Brian Teitelbaum
Joel, The SMA SWR2500U inverter has been a long discontinued model. If you want to use an SMA inverter, go to the SMA website to use their excellent sizing program. Plug in the module, and your record minimum and average maximum temps for the site, and look for a current model inverter that wil