Re: [RE-wrenches] off grid PV connected to generator

2013-01-16 Thread Carl Emerson
Hi there, In a previous thread on this topic Chris Mason reported no problems at all back-feeding PV derived AC into his gennie. I quote Chris. "Best of all is they work together happily. My Kohler 12RES and my SMA SB3000 seem to work together perfectly, without any issues. Although wa

Re: [RE-wrenches] off grid PV connected to generator

2013-01-16 Thread John Berdner
[mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf Of SunHarvest Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2013 9:54 AM To: RE-wrenches Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] off grid PV connected to generator Finally got through to Outback. They said the GVFX could be wired with a genny line-side of the inverter in ord

Re: [RE-wrenches] off grid PV connected to generator

2013-01-16 Thread SunHarvest
does the generator charge the batteries if the genny is load-side of the inverter? Eric SunHarvest - Original Message - From: SunHarvest To: RE-wrenches Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2013 8:47 AM Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] off grid PV connected to generat

Re: [RE-wrenches] off grid PV connected to generator

2013-01-16 Thread Drake
At 12:53 PM 1/16/2013, you wrote: Finally got through to Outback. They said the GVFX could be wired with a genny line-side of the inverter in order for the genny to charge the batteries and that this configuration could potentially cause problems for the genny. The likelihood of the PV sending

Re: [RE-wrenches] off grid PV connected to generator

2013-01-16 Thread Maverick Brown
ing the genset supply-side of the inverter, the > question remains, for me at least, how does the generator charge the > batteries if the genny is load-side of the inverter? > > Eric > SunHarvest > > - Original Message - > From: SunHarvest > To: RE-wrenches &

Re: [RE-wrenches] off grid PV connected to generator

2013-01-16 Thread SunHarvest
enny is load-side of the inverter? Eric SunHarvest - Original Message - From: SunHarvest To: RE-wrenches Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2013 8:47 AM Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] off grid PV connected to generator For claification, the two installs with which I'm concerned are:

Re: [RE-wrenches] off grid PV connected to generator

2013-01-16 Thread SunHarvest
o connect to an Outback tech (Katee Wood)... Eric SunHarvest - Original Message - From: David Katz To: RE-wrenches Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2013 8:12 AM Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] off grid PV connected to generator Phil, If Eric is using the FX ot GTFX in an AC coupled mode

Re: [RE-wrenches] off grid PV connected to generator

2013-01-16 Thread David Katz
Phil, If Eric is using the FX ot GTFX in an AC coupled mode, he would need to disconnect the grid tie inverter when the generator was running. From the thread, I cannot tell if this is his situation. David Katz Sent from my HTC smartphone on the Now Network from Sprint! - Reply message --

Re: [RE-wrenches] off grid PV connected to generator

2013-01-15 Thread Phil Undercuffler
Eric, Good questions, and you hit on a number of topics so let me see if I can address them one at a time, not necessarily in chronological order. Yes, the optimal application for the GTFX / GVFX inverter series is grid tie with battery backup. If you just want backup to the grid, the traditiona

Re: [RE-wrenches] off grid PV connected to generator

2013-01-15 Thread toddcory
one of my biggest gripes about the outback fx series is only one ac input... this was a major step backwards from its trace sw series predecessor. if someone is going to want battery back up on a grid tied system, they surely are going to want the ability to back that up with a generator. the ra

Re: [RE-wrenches] off grid PV connected to generator

2013-01-15 Thread jay peltz
Hi Dan Would like to know what they suggested besides changing it to a VFX? Jay Peltz power Sent from my iPad On Jan 15, 2013, at 1:54 PM, Dan Fink wrote: > Talk to Outback. It's an easy fix, on-site. > -- > Dan Fink, > Executive Director; > Otherpower > Buckville Energy Consulting > Buckv

Re: [RE-wrenches] off grid PV connected to generator

2013-01-15 Thread SunHarvest
I did. They were less than helpful. At least the two or three different techs I talked to. They sounded as green as me. - Original Message - From: Dan Fink To: RE-wrenches Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2013 1:54 PM Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] off grid PV connected to generator

Re: [RE-wrenches] off grid PV connected to generator

2013-01-15 Thread Dan Fink
Talk to Outback. It's an easy fix, on-site. -- Dan Fink, Executive Director; Otherpower Buckville Energy Consulting Buckville Publications LLC NABCEP / IREC accredited Continuing Education Providers 970.672.4342 (voicemail) On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 2:50 PM, SunHarvest wrote: (snip) > Further, I

Re: [RE-wrenches] off grid PV connected to generator

2012-12-14 Thread Steve Jefferson
s] off grid PV connected to generator Best of all is they work together happily. My Kohler 12RES and my SMA SB3000 seem to work together perfectly, without any issues. ___ List sponsored by Home Power magazine List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrench

Re: [RE-wrenches] off grid PV connected to generator

2012-12-14 Thread Dave Click
2012 8:18 PM *To:* 'RE-wrenches' *Subject:* Re: [RE-wrenches] off grid PV connected to generator August – I’ve seen this scenario and it is not pretty like William suggests. From what I’ve seen, the problem is not so much the power of the PV being more than the generator, but moreso if the 1)

Re: [RE-wrenches] off grid PV connected to generator

2012-12-13 Thread Chris Mason
Best of all is they work together happily. My Kohler 12RES and my SMA SB3000 seem to work together perfectly, without any issues. ___ List sponsored by Home Power magazine List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Options & settings: http://lists.

Re: [RE-wrenches] off grid PV connected to generator

2012-12-13 Thread August Goers
horst *Sent:* Wednesday, December 12, 2012 8:18 PM *To:* 'RE-wrenches' *Subject:* Re: [RE-wrenches] off grid PV connected to generator August – I’ve seen this scenario and it is not pretty like William suggests. >From what I’ve seen, the problem is not so much the power of the PV b

Re: [RE-wrenches] off grid PV connected to generator

2012-12-12 Thread Greg Seelhorst
August - I've seen this scenario and it is not pretty like William suggests. >From what I've seen, the problem is not so much the power of the PV being more than the generator, but moreso if the 1) generator is synchronous or non-synchronous with the inverted AC (sine wave) and 2) if the

Re: [RE-wrenches] off grid PV connected to generator

2012-12-12 Thread Carl Emerson
Hi there, Does it not depend on the size of the generator? I know that solar grid tie into a diesel generator derived grid is done on several pacific Islands. Carl Emerson At 02:07 PM 12/12/2012, you wrote: Hi Wrenches, I have a quick theoretical question related to trying to

Re: [RE-wrenches] off grid PV connected to generator

2012-12-12 Thread Mac Lewis
I have watched this scenario happen with a the Sunny Island system AC coupled to Sunny Island. There is a parameter called maximum reverse generator power that you can program. It defaults at 100W I believe. If the current feeding into the generator is greater than this parameter, the Sunny Isla

Re: [RE-wrenches] off grid PV connected to generator

2012-12-12 Thread William Miller
August: The apocalypse. No, seriously, this is a scenario not supported by any manufacturer I know of. The report we have is it is likely the generator will be damaged. I recommend against it. William Miller At 02:07 PM 12/12/2012, you wrote: Hi Wrenches, I have a quick theoretical que