Re: [RE-wrenches] Unusual problem with SMA TL inverter on metal roof

2014-03-26 Thread August Goers
Irish Hudson Solar -- *From:* re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org [ re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] on behalf of August Goers [ aug...@luminalt.com] *Sent:* Tuesday, March 25, 2014 8:41 PM *To:* RE-wrenches *Subject:* Re: [RE-wrenches] Unusual problem with SMA TL invert

Re: [RE-wrenches] Unusual problem with SMA TL inverter on metal roof

2014-03-26 Thread Chris Mason
the capacitive charge common on larger arrays that is > seen as a problem. > -- > From: Jeff Irish > Sent: 3/25/2014 21:33 > > To: RE-wrenches > Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Unusual problem with SMA TL inverter on metal > roof > > August, > &g

Re: [RE-wrenches] Unusual problem with SMA TL inverter on metal roof

2014-03-26 Thread Glenn Burt
I wonder if it is the capacitive charge common on larger arrays that is seen as a problem. -Original Message- From: "Jeff Irish" Sent: ‎3/‎25/‎2014 21:33 To: "RE-wrenches" Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Unusual problem with SMA TL inverter on metal roof August, W

Re: [RE-wrenches] Unusual problem with SMA TL inverter on metal roof

2014-03-25 Thread Jeff Irish
.@lists.re-wrenches.org [re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] on behalf of August Goers [aug...@luminalt.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2014 8:41 PM To: RE-wrenches Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Unusual problem with SMA TL inverter on metal roof Hi Marco, Did you ever make any progress on

Re: [RE-wrenches] Unusual problem with SMA TL inverter on metal roof

2014-03-25 Thread August Goers
enches] Unusual problem with SMA TL inverter on metal roof Probably not. *From:* re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org [ mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] *On Behalf Of *RE Ellison *Sent:* Friday, March 14, 2014 1:24 AM *To:* 'RE-wrenches' *Subject:* Re: [RE-wrenches]

Re: [RE-wrenches] Unusual problem with SMA TL inverter on metal roof

2014-03-14 Thread Marco Mangelsdorf
Probably not. From: re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf Of RE Ellison Sent: Friday, March 14, 2014 1:24 AM To: 'RE-wrenches' Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Unusual problem with SMA TL inverter on metal roof Is the

Re: [RE-wrenches] Unusual problem with SMA TL inverter on metal roof

2014-03-14 Thread Marco Mangelsdorf
Yes, SPR 327s. marco From: re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf Of Gregory Seelhorst Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2014 9:21 PM To: RE-wrenches Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Unusual problem with SMA TL inverter on metal roof

Re: [RE-wrenches] Unusual problem with SMA TL inverter on metal roof

2014-03-14 Thread Gregory Seelhorst
Marco What is the make and model of the modules? SPR-327s perhaps? Greg On Mar 14, 2014 4:53 AM, "Marco Mangelsdorf" wrote: > Friends, > > > > We have run across an odd technical problem at our commercial install at a > laundromat on our island. Attached is the description of the issue fro

Re: [RE-wrenches] Unusual problem with SMA TL inverter on metal roof

2014-03-14 Thread Exeltech
ional Inverter Design Engineer (among many other things...) On Fri, 3/14/14, Chris Mason wrote: Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Unusual problem with SMA TL inverter on metal roof To: "RE-wrenches" Date: Friday, March 14, 2014, 9:07 AM

Re: [RE-wrenches] Unusual problem with SMA TL inverter on metal roof

2014-03-14 Thread Chris Mason
Typically when capacitance is a problem, the answer is inductance. Have you looked at adding some chokes between the DC negative and ground to counteract the capacitance? On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 10:31 PM, Marco Mangelsdorf wrote: > Friends, > > > > We have run across an odd technical problem at

Re: [RE-wrenches] Unusual problem with SMA TL inverter on metal roof

2014-03-14 Thread RE Ellison
Is the metal roof grounded? Just a fast thought. bob From: re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf Of Marco Mangelsdorf Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2014 10:31 PM To: 'RE-wrenches' Subject: [RE-wrenches] Unusual problem with SMA TL

Re: [RE-wrenches] Unusual problem with SMA TL inverter on metal roof

2014-03-14 Thread b...@midnitesolar.com
I could see how they might get confused between hi-pot something-or-other and capacitance. But for hi-pot arc-over, you don't really have to have much capacitance. Just one spot with too little spacing for it to arc across is enough to fail. i.e. Hi pot problems unfortunately don't creep u

Re: [RE-wrenches] Unusual problem with SMA TL inverter on metal roof

2014-03-13 Thread Jerry Shafer
I had this issue way back with pvl's unisolar and it was always written off as hi pot leakage in the conductors and its good to see that it was put to paper On Mar 13, 2014 11:20 PM, "b...@midnitesolar.com" wrote: > > Interesting app note. Interesting problem. > > How far from this metal roof (g

Re: [RE-wrenches] Unusual problem with SMA TL inverter on metal roof

2014-03-13 Thread b...@midnitesolar.com
Interesting app note. Interesting problem. How far from this metal roof (grounded I presume) is the bottom of the modules ? This app note is mainly talking about the area of the module from the mounting bracket which should be quite a bit less than the modules area from a distance above a