Re: [RE-wrenches] Liability

2011-11-24 Thread Bill Loesch
Mac, You have gotten some great advice from previous responders. Don't underestimate the use of before and after photos with interim photos of any hidden problems discovered during the repair. Sometimes I even manage to get the owner/caller in the photo, too. The photos also have a side benefi

Re: [RE-wrenches] Liability

2011-11-23 Thread William Miller
Mac: I make a decent living fixing other installer's work. Someone's got to do it or the bad systems will never get fixed. Who does that benefit? I of course need assurance from the customer that I can fix all safety issues before I start. I also like to keep one or two pro-bono customers

Re: [RE-wrenches] Liability

2011-11-23 Thread Jesse Dahl
it results in a job for us. We're not doing > rocket science, but it is not erector sets either... > > Jason Szumlanski > Fafco Solar > > > > -Original Message- > From: re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org > [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org

Re: [RE-wrenches] Liability

2011-11-23 Thread Richard L Ratico
Mac, You have already received great advice, different strokes for different folks. Three things I would add: Accepting an offgrid customer is a bit like getting married. It is a long term commitment. You want it to be a happy one. What does that mean to you? In my experience it is prudent to ex

Re: [RE-wrenches] Liability

2011-11-23 Thread Ray Walters
I agree with Joel and Allan's comments; I just would add that I too have done many repairs, and rewires and found them to be decent customers. I also have never been sued, by using Joel's method of avoiding problem clients. Usually the rewire turns into a system upgrade ( I always do a complet

Re: [RE-wrenches] Liability

2011-11-23 Thread Jason Szumlanski
-Original Message- From: re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf Of penobscotso...@midmaine.com Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2011 12:05 PM To: RE-wrenches Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Liability We don't work on syste

Re: [RE-wrenches] Liability

2011-11-23 Thread Allan Sindelar
Mac, 1.  Write notes on your concerns on your daily service record for the site visit. Express strong concern. 2.  Write a cautionary note on the invoice to the landlord. 3.  Decide if you'd to tackle a system rebuild, or if you don't want to get near it. 4.  If

Re: [RE-wrenches] Liability

2011-11-23 Thread Joel Davidson
Hello Mac, I can understand not wanting to get involved in some people's problems, but electricians, plumbers and other tradespeople make a good living fixing people's problems. I have examined, tested and repaired PV systems for over 25 years. Sometimes I work with subcontractors or partner up

Re: [RE-wrenches] Liability

2011-11-23 Thread penobscotsolar
We don't work on systems that do not conform to code unless the client agrees that our work will include bringing the installation up to said code. It becomes our responsibility once we work on it, and even with our $1,000,000 liability coverage (and my gf is a lawyer), this is still our policy.

Re: [RE-wrenches] Liability

2011-11-23 Thread Jeff Yago
I took some heat several years ago when this same thread went around the first time and I said we refuse to work on any system we did not sell and install. Although there have been a few times when I made an exception to this rule (like crying, pleading, and begging from a homeowner that clearly g

Re: [RE-wrenches] Liability

2011-11-23 Thread Maverick Brown [Maverick Solar]
Remind me to learn how to type on the iPhone. Edit: hourly charge includes insurance and lawyers Edit: no family member lawyers. Sorry. Thank you, Maverick Maverick Brown BSEET, NABCEP Certified Solar PV Installer ® President & CEO Maverick Solar Enterprises, Inc. Office: 512-919-4493

Re: [RE-wrenches] Liability

2011-11-23 Thread Maverick Brown [Maverick Solar]
Since the invention of the lawyer and insurance agent, there has alway been liability. Your hourly. Barge includes money that goes to both of them. You should carry $1M policy and have working relationship with an attorney (that is. It a family member). As a practical matter, we complete a Ser