Hello Mac,

I can understand not wanting to get involved in some people's problems, but 
electricians, plumbers and other tradespeople make a good living fixing 
people's problems. I have examined, tested and repaired PV systems for over 25 
years. Sometimes I work with subcontractors or partner up with other experts on 
some jobs. I have never been sued by a client or a subcontractor because I make 
it a point to avoid problem people.

Almost all my problem-solving work comes from phone inquiries, but some come by 
email. I telephone interview the prospect to determine the problem and to get a 
feel for how they will be as a client. I will not work for or with disturbed 
people or trouble-makers. I always ask who did the work and why he or she is 
not fixing it. The prospect's answers tell a lot about how the prospect will be 
as a client.

If I can not do the work and know someone good who can do the work, I make a 
courtesy referral. If I can do what the caller wants or needs, I will tell the 
caller what I will do and how much I will charge. If they agree, I go to the 
site. If I do not feel good about the prospect or the place, I tell them I can 
not help them and leave.

If the prospect is reasonable and I can do the work, I examine what needs to be 
done, show and tell the prospect what I will do, how much it will cost and the 
payment terms. If the client agrees, then in writing I specify the problem, my 
solution, list pre-existing conditions and exclusions for which I am not 
responsible. I also indemnify myself from any and all unspecified and 
undiscovered pre-existing conditions. Then I get the client to agree in writing 
that I will not be held responsible for the listed and undiscovered 
pre-existing conditions and exclusions. Then I do the work.

Upon completion of the work, I show and tell the client what I did and get 
their acknowledgement that I performed the work that they expected to their 
complete satisfaction. If there are any unfinished issues, I finish them to 
their complete satisfaction. Then in writing, I list the work performed, 
reiterate the exclusions, have them sign off that the work is completed to 
their complete satisfaction and give them the invoice.

I am thankful that many customers have become references and friends.

Happy Thanksgiving.
Joel Davidson

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: mac Lewis 
  To: RE-wrenches 
  Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2011 8:43 AM
  Subject: [RE-wrenches] Liability


  Hey wrenches,


  Wanted to see what everyone does in a case like I just encountered.  I got a 
call from a tenant for an off-grid system installed by the landlord (supposedly 
an electrician).  I went up there to look at the site and it was a mess.  
System lacked OCPDs, there were gouges in the insulation of the wires, loose 
terminals, nothing ran in conduit, etc...  I was called up there to see why the 
generator was not auto starting.  I got the auto start working, expressed my 
concern to the tenant about the workmanship and left.  Now I'm wondering 
whether I should have touched the system at all.  What would you do?  Is there 
liability here?


  Thanks
  -- 







  Mac Lewis


  "Yo solo sé que no sé nada." -Sócrates





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