Re: [RE-wrenches] not sure what's going on here

2013-05-13 Thread Ray Walters
o for the reference to "aged". Dan --- On Sun, 5/12/13, Larry Crutcher, Starlight Solar Power Systems wrote: From: Larry Crutcher, Starlight Solar Power Systems Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] not sure what's going on here To: "RE-wrenches" Date: Sunday, May 12, 2013, 9

Re: [RE-wrenches] not sure what's going on here

2013-05-12 Thread Ron Young
ere, such as something within the PV, and other that's related > to the firmware. Multiple-issue failures are some of the most > frustrating and challenging of all fault analyses. Then add > distance to the equation > > > Thanks too for the reference to "aged&q

Re: [RE-wrenches] not sure what's going on here

2013-05-12 Thread Larry Crutcher, Starlight Solar Power Systems
--- On Sun, 5/12/13, Larry Crutcher, Starlight Solar Power Systems wrote: > From: Larry Crutcher, Starlight Solar Power Systems > Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] not sure what's going on here > To: "RE-wrenches" > Date: Sunday, May 12, 2013, 9:30 AM > Fellow Wrenches,

Re: [RE-wrenches] not sure what's going on here

2013-05-12 Thread Exeltech
... Thanks too for the reference to "aged". Dan --- On Sun, 5/12/13, Larry Crutcher, Starlight Solar Power Systems wrote: > From: Larry Crutcher, Starlight Solar Power Systems > Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] not sure what's going on here > To: "RE-wrenches" &

Re: [RE-wrenches] not sure what's going on here

2013-05-12 Thread Larry Crutcher, Starlight Solar Power Systems
Fellow Wrenches, I realize that many of you are offering your time and comments in a genuine effort to help Ron, however, the problem he described is the EXACT behavior of all early 3024i controllers. This happened with overloaded controllers operating in 24 to 12 downconversion, just like in t

Re: [RE-wrenches] not sure what's going on here

2013-05-12 Thread Exeltech
he entire PV. If this is the case, ensure the diodes are more robust than the parts used in the original product, and that all connections to the new parts are solid. Regards to all, Dan Lepinski 41 years in solar energy ... --- On Sun, 5/12/13, d...@energysolarnow.com wrote: From: d...@energy

Re: [RE-wrenches] not sure what's going on here

2013-05-11 Thread don
Ron et al-The firmware in the controller sounds likely, but a faulty shorted bypass diode does not. Isn't that what bypass diodes are supposed to do-- turn on and short (bypass) a shaded row of cells?We use to see this half-panel voltage as a failure mode with the old Kyocera 120's when they were s

Re: [RE-wrenches] not sure what's going on here

2013-05-10 Thread Ray Walters
I'd echo Bob-O on this and also add that when diagnosing others' work over the phone, it often is completely different issues when you get there. You have no idea if for instance he's actually got the modules wired correctly, he may have a loose connection(s) there, the parallels may all be lo

Re: [RE-wrenches] not sure what's going on here

2013-05-10 Thread Bob-O Schultze
Ron, It certainly sounds like a failed diode (there are two) to me. Usually they fail open, but it isn't unheard of that they might just avalanche when they see the current of the other PVs. Solarworld would probably replace it under warranty IF you return the dead module to them. How the hell d

Re: [RE-wrenches] not sure what's going on here

2013-05-10 Thread Larry Crutcher, Starlight Solar Power Systems
Hi Ron, The problem you describe is due to the firmware in very early versions of the 3024i. What would happen is once you hit the 30 amp current limiter, the controller will switch the input to act like it is connected to a nominal 12 volt module, lowering the input voltage. Contact Blue Sky f

[RE-wrenches] not sure what's going on here

2013-05-10 Thread Ron @ earthRight Solar
Hi Wrenches, Wondering if anyone can shed some light on this. I have a customer who self installed 4 x 165w Solarworld panels a few years ago (2008). It's a 12v nom. battery and the panels are wired in parallel. They've been working fine for five years on a full time household using a 3024i Bl