Re: [RE-wrenches] combining 24v and 12v systems

2020-01-03 Thread Chris Sparadeo
Hi Chris, I recently found myself in a similar situation with an existing 24V system with a 24v fridge and 12v freezer. The client wanted to upgrade to LiFePO4 so I decided that it would be easier and cheaper to go 48v. I used the Samlex IDC 360-C24 and IDC 360-C12 DC to DC converters to take the

Re: [RE-wrenches] combining 24v and 12v systems

2020-01-02 Thread William Miller
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Re: [RE-wrenches] combining 24v and 12v systems

2020-01-02 Thread John Blittersdorf
Chris, I have a 12vdc sunfrost fridge and a few 12v receptacles left over from the 12v days and I did the same as your customer with 2L16’s and a few panels and backed it up with an Iota charger plugged into an AC outlet powered by my 48v Outback inverter. Then I discontinued the dedicated Pv

Re: [RE-wrenches] combining 24v and 12v systems

2020-01-02 Thread Chris Worcester
www.solarwindworks.com ch...@solarwindworks.com From: RE-wrenches [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf Of Ray Sent: Thursday, January 02, 2020 3:24 PM To: re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] combining 24v and 12v systems How do you insure

Re: [RE-wrenches] combining 24v and 12v systems

2020-01-02 Thread Ray
-wrenches [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] *On Behalf Of *Tom Duffy *Sent:* Wednesday, January 01, 2020 8:55 AM *To:* RE-wrenches *Subject:* Re: [RE-wrenches] combining 24v and 12v systems Agree!  use a Victron DC to DC Converter Kind regards ** *Tom Duffy* */Senior Solar

Re: [RE-wrenches] combining 24v and 12v systems

2020-01-02 Thread Chris Worcester
enches Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] combining 24v and 12v systems Agreed: no 12v tap. I’ll add (with modest experience, as this doesn’t come up as an upgrade very often any more) that Mean Well, despite the odd name, proved itself pretty reliable in some early Wattsun tracker drives and some oth

Re: [RE-wrenches] combining 24v and 12v systems

2020-01-01 Thread Tom Duffy
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Re: [RE-wrenches] combining 24v and 12v systems

2019-12-31 Thread Jerry Shafer
Wrenches I have to agree with Dana, battery imbalance is alway an issue, add in a mid tap load and failure is in your future, l have also seen this done and it never works as you might hope. Jerry On Tue, Dec 31, 2019, 12:46 PM Dan Fink wrote: > I second everyone. Center-tapping a 24 or 48v batt

Re: [RE-wrenches] combining 24v and 12v systems

2019-12-31 Thread Allan Sindelar
Agreed: no 12v tap. I’ll add (with modest experience, as this doesn’t come up as an upgrade very often any more) that Mean Well, despite the odd name, proved itself pretty reliable in some early Wattsun tracker drives and some other DC-DC applications. Available online; see https://www.meanwell

Re: [RE-wrenches] combining 24v and 12v systems

2019-12-31 Thread Dana Orzel
es On Behalf Of Dan Fink Sent: Tuesday, December 31, 2019 1:46 PM To: RE-wrenches Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] combining 24v and 12v systems I second everyone. Center-tapping a 24 or 48v battery bank for 12v SEEMS like it should work just fine, especially for low load infrequent use like a 12v

Re: [RE-wrenches] combining 24v and 12v systems

2019-12-31 Thread Dan Fink
I second everyone. Center-tapping a 24 or 48v battery bank for 12v SEEMS like it should work just fine, especially for low load infrequent use like a 12v water pressure pump for a greenhouse, a weather station, etc.. Nope, I've been a loser every time, with that battery or pair always the first to

Re: [RE-wrenches] combining 24v and 12v systems

2019-12-31 Thread Ray
Even with battery balancers, battery tapping is still a really bad idea.  I know, I did it on my own system in the 90s.  The DC/DC converters are the way to go, but be sure and over size it by a fair amount to handle the fridge starting surge. Unfortunately my favorites are no longer available:

Re: [RE-wrenches] combining 24v and 12v systems

2019-12-31 Thread Jay
Hi Chris Agreed. 12v from either a balancer or iota Happy new yr Jay > On Dec 31, 2019, at 8:52 AM, Chris Schaefer wrote: > >  > G'day and Happy New Year to All, > > Recently came across this offgrid OB FX system. The first part is a 12v > battery system w/ 2 PV modules, 2 Trojan L16 bat

Re: [RE-wrenches] combining 24v and 12v systems

2019-12-31 Thread Dave Angelini Offgrid Solar
Tapping a battery bank is not a good practice. it will unbalance the bank. Much better to add a 24V electronic converter for the 12V loads. Then replace the 12V loads when time permits. They will need a spare converter so buy 2. Amazon has tons of these converters. Your quote is great BTW. H N Y

Re: [RE-wrenches] combining 24v and 12v systems

2019-12-31 Thread Lloyd Hoffstatter
ent: Tuesday, December 31, 2019 11:52 AM To: RE-wrenches<mailto:re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org> Subject: [RE-wrenches] combining 24v and 12v systems G'day and Happy New Year to All, Recently came across this offgrid OB FX system. The first part is a 12v battery system w/ 2 PV modules,

[RE-wrenches] combining 24v and 12v systems

2019-12-31 Thread Chris Schaefer
G'day and Happy New Year to All, Recently came across this offgrid OB FX system. The first part is a 12v battery system w/ 2 PV modules, 2 Trojan L16 batteries used to power a frig and freezer about 6 years old. The second is a 24v with 3kw of PV, 4 Trojan L16's, twin OB FX inverters installed by