, 2011 1:58 AM
Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] battery cycle life, US Battery
Sorry, 2nd attempt.
Could not attach the presentation but have if anyone is interested ...
Morning Wrenches,
Regarding cycle life data, I thought some of you might find the attached
interesting as it comes
Hi James;
I'd like to see the presentation again (I WAS there in 04) Also, I think
it would be very helpful for a competent manufacturer (like yourselves)
to comment on how the cycle testing is done, whether you use a 100 hr,
or 20 hr discharge rate, etc. and also whether battery testing is
s
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From: Ray Walters
Date: September 16, 2011 1:03:43 PM PDT
To: RE-wrenches
Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] battery cycle life, US Battery
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Larry,
I totally agree, that's a ridiculous # of batteries and strings. If that's
really the case, it seem
created
by Wrenches fellows for proper positing heavy units
John
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[mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf Of Ron Young
Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2011 8:11 PM
To: RE-wrenches
Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] battery cycle life, US
One word for moving HUPs or hawkers, etc: ENGINE HOIST!
Jonathan Hill, senior system design engineerSierra Solar SystemsOn Sep 17, 2011, at 6:52 PM, Ray Walters wrote:
Todd;
I haven't tried the 2v L16s, because they were rated the same cycle
life. (I could be wrong?)
HI Ron;
We just use a big wheeled 2 wheel dolly for moving the Rolls, and L16s,
etc. We build little ramps etc for up and down stairs, take doors off
hinges, whatever we have to do to make the move safer, and do less
damage to the house. THe key is planning, prep, and then moving slowly
and c
Hey Ray I like your dolly! I could use something like that to move the big
Surrette/Rolls batteries. Not nearly as big as a HUP but at 300+ lbs can be a
little hefty.
Ron
On 2011-09-17, at 6:52 PM, Ray Walters wrote:
> Todd;
>
> I haven't tried the 2v L16s, because they were rated the same cy
n top GC2.
Larry
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From: Ray Walters
Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2011 1:38 PM
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Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] battery cycle life, US Battery
Geez, I got that file on a model specific google search. It has a picture of a
4000 series flooded cell to the side, no other lab
bject: Re: [RE-wrenches] battery cycle life, US Battery
Geez, I got that file on a model specific google search. It has a
picture of a 4000 series flooded cell to the side, no other labeling,
and it matched my cross check in the AEE catalog (1000 cycles at 50%
DOD). I can't seem to get to th
ters mailto:r...@solarray.com>>
*Date: *September 16, 2011 1:03:43 PM PDT
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*Subject: **Re: [RE-wrenches] battery cycle life, US Battery
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Larry,
Hey Todd,
Yep. We use the Sun Xtender and Lifeline 2 volt L16 AGM's for 12 volt systems
in RV's and small off grid. We also sell the Tall GC2 battery for lower
capacity applications. So far, so good.
I have not sold any flooded 2v L16's but we have sold Crown 6 volt L16's for
years and I have n
What about the 2 volt L-16 versions? Has anyone had success with them for
larger banks? I work alone and HUPs are too heavy to lift on my own... however
24, L-16's in one series string would be a hell of a battery bank too.
Todd
On Friday, September 16, 2011 1:03pm, "Ray Walters" said
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>> To: RE-wrenches
>> Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] battery cycle life, US Battery
>> Reply-To: RE-wrenches
>>
>> Larry,
>>
>> I totally agree, that's a ridiculous # of batteries and strings. If that's
>> really the case, it seems L16s will
Larry,
I totally agree, that's a ridiculous # of batteries and strings. If
that's really the case, it seems L16s will still need 4 to 5 strings,
which is also crazy. I see only one solution to this battery bank, and
that is the HUP or other large 2 v cell battery. Comparing golf cart
batterie
Larry
From: Ron
Young
Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2011
5:11 PM
To: RE-wrenches
Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] battery
real world experienced professional has a much broader
>> understanding of RE system intricacies than a “scientist”.
>>
>> Larry
>>
>> From: Ron Young
>> Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2011 5:11 PM
>> To: RE-wrenches
>> Subject: Re: [RE-
nvince your customer that a hands-on, real world experienced
professional has a much broader understanding of RE system intricacies
than a "scientist".
Larry
*From:* Ron Young <mailto:solarea...@solareagle.com>
*Sent:* Thursday, September 15, 2011 5:11 PM
*To:* RE-wrenches <mailt
understanding of RE system intricacies than a “scientist”.
Larry
From: Ron Young
Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2011 5:11 PM
To: RE-wrenches
Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] battery cycle life, US Battery
Hi Larry,
Client has asked me to compare the cycle life because he is upgrading a large
battery
Hi Larry,
Client has asked me to compare the cycle life because he is upgrading a large
battery bank and has been convinced by a Xantrex "scientist" that golf cart
batteries are superior to L-16's even though it involves twice as many
batteries, connections, cells, footprint etc. So to convince
Ron,
For many years we have sold the US2200's and the Interstate version, the U2200
and I'd say they are nearly as good as the Trojan T-105. (buyer beware:
Interstate switched to Johnson Control junk batteries and no longer sells the
American made US Battery. http://starlightsolar.com/interstat
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