[RE-wrenches] Battery boxes

2013-05-14 Thread Hilton Dier III
Take a look at www.usplastic.com and check out their polyethylene tanks. TAMCO is one brand I have used. A 36" x 20" x 20" tank will hold four large-ish batteries (L-16 or similar) with room to spare. The lids need some foam tape for air sealing, but otherwise they are acid resistant and remark

Re: [RE-wrenches] Battery Boxes

2013-05-13 Thread Exeltech
ventilated in the sides and top.  The side vents are screened to prevent critter entry. Non-conductive.  Non-corrosive.  Extremely durable. Dan --- On Mon, 5/13/13, Maverick Brown wrote: From: Maverick Brown Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Battery Boxes To: "RE-wrenches" Cc: "RE-

Re: [RE-wrenches] Battery Boxes

2013-05-13 Thread Maverick Brown
For FLA batteries, we only use plywood for the boxes. I'm worry about corrosion. For AGM, we use metal, usually AL. Stainless is more expensive. Thank you, Maverick Maverick Brown BSEET, NABCEP Certified Solar PV Installer ® President & CEO Maverick Solar Enterprises, Inc. Office: 512-9

Re: [RE-wrenches] Battery Boxes

2013-05-13 Thread Jesse Dahl
After seeing this battery box and seeing the issues that can arise if a large battery bank is deployed I contacted a local metal fab shop and asked for a estimate on building one if I needed it. A 45"x40"x 20" battery box with stamped louvers was about $1000. This was made out of stainless bec

Re: [RE-wrenches] Battery Boxes

2013-05-12 Thread Dan Fink
Jesse; I too have concerns about wooden battery boxes. Have seen a couple close calls with fires from thermal runaway, and acid doesn't treat wood kindly. But for a large bank, anything commercial is extremely expensive. Our current solution is to caulk the wooden box, line with pink foam sheets i

Re: [RE-wrenches] Battery Boxes

2013-05-12 Thread jay peltz
Hi Jesse What is your concern with a wood based battery box? Thanks Jay Peltz power Sent from my iPad On May 11, 2013, at 10:16 PM, Jesse Dahl wrote: > Hello, > > I visited a site on Friday to do some trouble-shooting on a system and > noticed the battery box was homemade by the installer

Re: [RE-wrenches] Battery Boxes

2013-05-11 Thread Allan Sindelar
Jesse, We have made many battery boxes for flooded batteries of wood, although not "lumber". Years ago I made them, as I had been a carpenter in a previous life, but then I found a woodworker who could build to suit. We have long used "Baltic Birch" cabinet

[RE-wrenches] Battery Boxes

2013-05-11 Thread Jesse Dahl
Hello, I visited a site on Friday to do some trouble-shooting on a system and noticed the battery box was homemade by the installer of the system. Made from lumber. Seems to me like there may be some safety and liability issues with a homemade/lumber battery box. Maybe I'm getting gun shy afte

Re: [RE-wrenches] battery boxes...and conductor bundling

2010-07-18 Thread Phil Undercuffler
Off hand, I can think of two components to this -- conductor heating, and noise/impedance. From a conductor heating POV, the NEC is fuzzy on specific distance but the general rule is to not bundle conductors for lengths greater than 18', or standard derates would need to be applied. With the cost

Re: [RE-wrenches] battery boxes...and conductor bundling

2010-07-18 Thread William Miller
Tom: You want to bundle with conductors of opposite polarity wherever practical. This helps cancel the AC fields. William Miller At 10:40 AM 7/18/2010, you wrote: hello Wrenches, Since we usually are using the batteries in back-up applications and thus AGM batteries, we like to stack t

[RE-wrenches] battery boxes...and conductor bundling

2010-07-18 Thread Tom DeBates
hello Wrenches,   Since we usually are using the batteries in back-up applications and thus AGM batteries, we like to stack them. So we make-up a steel (2"X2" angle) rack, have our tinner bend-up an enclosure, and get all parts powder coated. Expensive, but last forever.   On another note; what

Re: [RE-wrenches] Battery Boxes?

2010-07-17 Thread Exeltech
I'm using two battery boxes made by Radiant Solar Technology in California.  They're sized for multiple T-105 or L-16, are tall enough to do proper cabling, deep enough to hold a quantity of acid in the event of a serious spill, and well ventilated (sides and top).  Made from HDPE. They're purp

Re: [RE-wrenches] Battery Boxes?

2010-07-17 Thread Bill Loesch
: Joel Davidson To: RE-wrenches Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 10:42 AM Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Battery Boxes? Hi August, That's it. http://www.nulime.com/titan-packer-45-polyethylene-storage-chest/p261914 also sells it for less. Is $213.08 with shipping included a good price

Re: [RE-wrenches] Battery Boxes?

2010-07-16 Thread August Goers
:* RE-wrenches *Subject:* Re: [RE-wrenches] Battery Boxes? August, You might also consider the Contico Pro Tuff Bin. $85 from Grainger. http://www.grainger.com/Grainger/items/1RG71 It also holds four L-16 batteries. You do have to keep the cables short and low though. Kent Osterberg Blue Mountain

Re: [RE-wrenches] Battery Boxes?

2010-07-16 Thread Kent Osterberg
ugust Goers To: RE-wrenches Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 8:16 AM Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Battery Boxes? Joel - I think this is the tool box you mentioned:   http://www.toolboxes4less.com/titan-packer-storage-chest-31.html   Looks almost ideal. I&#

Re: [RE-wrenches] Battery Boxes?

2010-07-16 Thread Joel Davidson
o: RE-wrenches Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 8:16 AM Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Battery Boxes? Joel - I think this is the tool box you mentioned: http://www.toolboxes4less.com/titan-packer-storage-chest-31.html Looks almost ideal. I'll let you know how it works. Best, August O

Re: [RE-wrenches] Battery Boxes?

2010-07-16 Thread August Goers
WB, it's mostly AGM's. > > Ken Schaal > CommonWealth Solar > > - Original Message - > *From:* August Goers > *To:* RE-wrenches > *Sent:* Wednesday, July 14, 2010 2:37 PM > *Subject:* Re: [RE-wrenches] Battery Boxes? > >Hi Wrenches - > >

Re: [RE-wrenches] Battery Boxes?

2010-07-16 Thread August Goers
l Message - > *From:* August Goers > *To:* RE-wrenches > *Sent:* Wednesday, July 14, 2010 2:37 PM > *Subject:* Re: [RE-wrenches] Battery Boxes? > >Hi Wrenches - > > > > We're seeing more and more interest in grid tied battery backup systems in > the Ba

Re: [RE-wrenches] Battery Boxes?

2010-07-15 Thread Ken Schaal
rage floor paint. But for GTWB, it's mostly AGM's. Ken Schaal CommonWealth Solar - Original Message - From: August Goers To: RE-wrenches Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2010 2:37 PM Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Battery Boxes? Hi Wrenches - We're seeing more and m

Re: [RE-wrenches] Battery Boxes?

2010-07-14 Thread Joel Davidson
Hello August, See The New Solar Electric Home, 3rd edition, page 225, for a photo of polyethylene tool boxes used to enclose L16 batteries (also John Wiles' Home Power #98 article). I suggest asking John Wiles where to get the boxes. Best regards, Joel Davidson On 7/14/2010 12:37 PM, Augus

Re: [RE-wrenches] Battery Boxes?

2010-07-14 Thread Daniel Young
. Danny From: re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf Of August Goers Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2010 2:38 PM To: RE-wrenches Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Battery Boxes? Hi Wrenches - We're seeing more and more intere

Re: [RE-wrenches] Battery Boxes?

2010-07-14 Thread James A. Hartley
27;ll make it for a better price given such improving circumstances. Solarcraft is here: http://www.solarcraft.net/index.htm - Original Message - From: August Goers To: RE-wrenches Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2010 1:37 PM Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Battery Boxes? Hi Wre

Re: [RE-wrenches] Battery Boxes?

2010-07-14 Thread Allan Sindelar
August, Opinion: if a customer can afford GTWB, which is more expensive by its nature, the customer can afford an $850 enclosure and inspectors like them. I have had only success with Concorde SunXtender. Allan Sindelar Allan@positiveenergysolar.com NABCEP Certified Photovoltaic I

Re: [RE-wrenches] Battery Boxes?

2010-07-14 Thread August Goers
Hi Wrenches - We're seeing more and more interest in grid tied battery backup systems in the Bay Area. Anyway, I'm finding that off the shelf battery boxes are quite expensive - the products from MidNite Solar, DPW, etc are all really nice but super pricey. Any recommendations on battery boxe