The fill window can also show full, when it is actually dry. You've got to pop
those caps, and visually check the old fashioned way.
That's why we're now advocating a "semi, semi auto system" using only one BFS
cap with a pressure sprayer to fill each cell. Auto shut off, but then you
visually d
closed.)
Cheers,
Doug Pratt
DC Power Systems
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From: re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org
[mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf Of Richard L
Ratico
Sent: Monday, December 21, 2009 7:27 PM
To: re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org
Subject: Re: [RE-wren
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From: R Ray Walters
To: RE-wrenches
Sent: Tue, December 22, 2009 10:30:06 PM
Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Battery Automatic Watering
We just came up with what we think is the best solution so far
We just came up with what we think is the best solution so far for battery
watering: we took the the pressurized sprayer idea (thank you wrenches) and
hooked it up to one of those onry BFS filling caps.
The result was a manual watering system with an idiot proof back up. JUst put
the cap in, sta
Has anyone tried a modified drip irrigtation system for battery watering?
The calibrated emitters can assure the accurate regulation of water flow.
Turn off the pressure and the feed stops. Sounds like a good winter project
for the slow season.
And we can share the patent rights!
Have a long an
Amen.
Dick Ratico
Solarwind Electric
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All,
I'm a little late on this thread, but wanted to give some contrary
experience. We have, maybe, 15 BFS watering systems out there, dating back 5
to 6 years. Although I've experienced some issues in getting watering
systems set up properly, o
All,
I'm a little late on this thread, but wanted to give some contrary
experience. We have, maybe, 15 BFS watering systems out there, dating back 5
to 6 years. Although I've experienced some issues in getting watering
systems set up properly, once they are set I haven't seen a problem develop.
Im
nt: 14 December, 2009 09:58
To: 'RE-wrenches'
Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Battery Automatic Watering
I stopped using Hydro-caps after replacing the umpteenth set that had melted
down. During a conversation with Hydro-cap I was told that [& this was many
years ago] the bulk voltage
rom:* frenergy
> *To:* RE-wrenches ;
> al...@positiveenergysolar.com
> *Sent:* Monday, December 14, 2009 9:05 AM
> *Subject:* Re: [RE-wrenches] Battery Automatic Watering
>
> Maybe one way to express it would be hydrocaps are great if you use the the
> same charging parameters no matte
@lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf Of Joel
Davidson
Sent: Sunday, December 13, 2009 7:18 PM
To: RE-wrenches
Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Battery Automatic Watering
You can get Hydrocaps direct from Hydrocap Corp., 975 N.W. 95 Street, Miami,
FL 33150, Tel 305-696-2504. I gave up trying to buy them after they re
December 13, 2009 7:17 PM
Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Battery Automatic Watering
You can get Hydrocaps direct from Hydrocap Corp., 975 N.W. 95 Street, Miami,
FL 33150, Tel 305-696-2504. I gave up trying to buy them after they returned my
check twice. They wanted more info about charge
Monday, December 14, 2009 9:05 AM
Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Battery Automatic Watering
Maybe one way to express it would be hydrocaps are great if you use the the
same charging parameters no matter what the age, condition of the battery is.
This seems to be critical to sizing the HCs pro
ck to regular caps after using HCs
Bill
Feather River Solar Electric
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From: Bill Loesch
To: al...@positiveenergysolar.com ; RE-wrenches
Sent: Monday, December 14, 2009 4:17 AM
Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Battery Automatic Watering
Another person'
y (MO) Licensed Water Heater Specialist
- Original Message -
From: Allan Sindelar
To: RE-wrenches
Sent: Sunday, December 13, 2009 4:01 PM
Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Battery Automatic Watering
One person's opinion, here...
Avoid Hydrocaps. You need to remove them to equalize
nt: Sunday, December 13, 2009 2:01 PM
Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Battery Automatic Watering
One person's opinion, here...
Avoid Hydrocaps. You need to remove them to equalize. They can clog up and
plug the battery up, leading to an explosion from pressure. I have seen it.
One person's opinion, here...
Avoid Hydrocaps. You need to remove them to equalize. They can clog up
and plug the battery up, leading to an explosion from pressure. I have
seen it.
es"
Sent: Saturday, December 12, 2009 5:50 AM
Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Battery Automatic Watering
Joel,
I was waiting to see if others use my method but I didn't see anyone
post it.
I've been off grid and having to maintain my batteries since 1997.
quot;
> Sent: Saturday, December 12, 2009 5:50 AM
>
> Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Battery Automatic Watering
>
>
> Joel,
>
> I was waiting to see if others use my method but I didn't see anyone
> post it.
> I've been off grid and having to maintain my batterie
The RE-Wrenches knowledge base scores again!
Happy Holidays.
Joel Davidson
- Original Message -
From: "Roy Butler"
To: "RE-wrenches"
Sent: Saturday, December 12, 2009 5:50 AM
Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Battery Automatic Watering
Joel,
I was waiting to see if ot
Bob and Jay,
That's where I keep mine, in the battery box. Also, I bought 2 others
for general use so mine would
be left alone. And I labeled mine with nasty warnings! I'm the only one
that ventures into the scary battery zone,
so no worries there!
Roy Butler
NABCEP Certified Solar PV Instal
Roy,
After reading the tip about herbicide sprayers on the wrench list a
few years ago I also use and recommend sprayers for battery
watering. With systems that I install that include a wet cell
battery I provide and install the following 'Battery Safety and
Maintenance Kit':
Hi Bob-O,
Its what I've been using for years and get for my clients, new sprayers that is.
I recommend building the battery box large enough to store it inside that way
nobody messes with it and you have a harder time losing it..
keep the peace,
jay
peltz power
On Dec 12, 2009, at 9:27 AM, Bo
Roy,
Good idea, but you'd almost want to keep in in a locked box. The potential for
someone using it for say... a dormant oil spraying of the fruit trees, is way
scary. "But I cleaned it out really well afterwards and the spray is organic!".
Perhaps if you encase it in red warning tape with tox
Joel,
I was waiting to see if others use my method but I didn't see anyone
post it.
I've been off grid and having to maintain my batteries since 1997. I grew to
hate the battery watering jugs for several reasons and finally came up with
something that works for me.your results may vary!
I
positive.
>
> Bill
> Feather River Solar Electric
>
>
> ----- Original Message -
> From: Joel Davidson
> To: RE-wrenches
> Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 11:07 AM
> Subject: **Possible_Spam** Re: [RE-wrenches] Battery Automatic Watering
>
> On-grid.
Wrenches,
Thank you for your feedback that automatic watering is not automatic or
reliable. Valves can stick open (a flood) or shut (a dry cell) or not seat
properly (dripping that becomes a slow flood). I'll get a 2.5 quart watering
can sold at auto parts stores - unless you all have a better
o their System Control Panelor MATE.
Brian Teitelbaum
AEE Solar
From:
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On Behalf Of toddc...@finestplanet.com
Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 4:21 PM
To: RE-wrenches
Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Battery
-wrenches.org
[mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf Of
toddc...@finestplanet.com
Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 4:21 PM
To: RE-wrenches
Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Battery Automatic Watering
Well said Jeff... like with auto genny starting systems... if the customer is
not
e -
> From: Joel Davidson
> To: RE-wrenches
> Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 11:07 AM
> Subject: **Possible_Spam** Re: [RE-wrenches] Battery Automatic Watering
>
> On-grid. The IBE lead-antimony cells already installed. So far Wrench
> feedback is automatic watering systems are
That's what the red oil pressure light on the dash is for., silly.
Bob-O
On Dec 10, 2009, at 4:21 PM, toddc...@finestplanet.com wrote:
Well said Jeff... like with auto genny starting systems... if the customer is
not willing to be involved with flying their system, only insisting on some
"
Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 11:07 AM
Subject: **Possible_Spam** Re: [RE-wrenches] Battery Automatic Watering
On-grid. The IBE lead-antimony cells already installed. So far Wrench
feedback is automatic watering systems are unreliable. The watering system that
IBE sells to its forkli
Well said Jeff... like with auto genny starting systems... if the customer is
not willing to be involved with flying their system, only insisting on some
"auto-pilot" system... a crash is inevitable. Watering the batteries is an
opportunity for the customer to be more involved with their system.
I do not have these an any customer's systems yet. The data comes from my
Surrette evaluation/beta test bank. All my future battery based/grid ties will
get these though.
Todd
On Thursday, December 10, 2009 10:19am, "jay peltz" said:
> HI Todd,
>
> Given the super long time between watering
Malibu, California record low 33 degrees F. Here we sing, "The weather
outside is delightful."
- Original Message -
From: "Bob-O Schultze"
To: "RE-wrenches"
Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 10:42 AM
Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Battery Automatic Wate
the drips add
up resulting in overfilled cells and a mess.
Joel Davidson
- Original Message -
From: toddc...@finestplanet.com
To: RE-wrenches
Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 10:03 AM
Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Battery Automatic Watering
On grid or off grid Joel? If grid
I've had pretty good luck with Pro-Fill from Jan Watercraft Prod. But will only
use them on monster battery banks of over 40 caps or so and only after trying
my best to talk the owner out of it. The most important factor with these is to
NEVER go fully automatic, it is imperative that a human st
It's water. Unless your battery shed is at least somewhat heated, it freezes in
the winter most places.
Him no work good.
bob-O
On Dec 10, 2009, at 8:43 AM, Dana wrote:
Joel,
I looked at Battery watering Systems equipment at the Anaheim show and the
prices looked better than other systems I hav
HI Todd,
Given the super long time between waterings, do you send a reminder or work out
a service contract?
jay
peltz power
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On grid or off grid Joel? If grid tied /w battery backup, use lead calcium wet
cells. They only need watering about every 18 months.
Todd
On Wednesday, December 9, 2009 6:14pm, "Joel Davidson"
said:
> Wrenches,
>
> We installed 48 each IBE 1-85N-15 cells (24 in series in 2 Direct Power &
>
] Battery Automatic Watering
Wrenches,
We installed 48 each IBE 1-85N-15 cells (24 in series in 2 Direct Power &
Water battery boxes). We do not want to use Hydrocaps. Your suggestions for
an automatic watering system would be most appreciated. Thanks in advance.
Happy Holidays.
Joel Davi
I agree with Ray. We used a battery filling system once and had the
same problems with leaks, cells over filled and under filled. We
took it out and will never use a battery filling system again. If a
customer is not willing, or around enough, to do proper flooded
battery maintenance, we
I've used the Liquid Precision units because they work with a gravity
feed system with the tank just a few feet above the batteries. I
haven't had any operational problems with them, yet. But I've broken
several of them just trying to install or remove them. And they have
to be removed to ch
I have to highly recommend against Battery FIlling Systems. After 3 years
trying to make their products work, we are pulling all watering systems out,
and offering full refunds.
Some of the caps leaked at only 1 psi of pressure, some overfilled the
batteries causing acid spills, and the worst: s
Wrenches,
We installed 48 each IBE 1-85N-15 cells (24 in series in 2 Direct Power &
Water battery boxes). We do not want to use Hydrocaps. Your suggestions for
an automatic watering system would be most appreciated. Thanks in advance.
Happy Holidays.
Joel Davidson
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