Re: [RE-wrenches] AC Coupled with Generator

2015-08-21 Thread Ray Walters
Just reading up on Magnum's new AC load diversion controller. It looks like the best option at this point, it provides AC load diversion so you can use AC loads not DC resistors, and it communicates with the inverter, so the system has both 3 stage temp compensated battery charging, and has 2

Re: [RE-wrenches] AC Coupled with Generator

2015-08-21 Thread Ray Walters
Hi Larry; I'm actually looking at the secondary DC array strategy you mentioned as well. It's all about those lower charge rates in the absorption and float stages. The DC array could be sized for a charge rate as low as C50 and probably have enough current to get the job done. Meanwhile En

Re: [RE-wrenches] AC Coupled with Generator

2015-08-21 Thread jay
HI Drake, What sort of multi stage relay control are you using? jay peltz power > On Aug 21, 2015, at 5:27 AM, Drake > wrote: > > I'm considering an AC coupled system with Enphase that would shed inverters a > group at a time, ending up with one still charging until the set point is > reac

Re: [RE-wrenches] AC Coupled with Generator

2015-08-21 Thread jay
A question about turning the AC on/off as means of primary on/off control for this AC coupling question. Some time ago I was told that most (all?) inverters don’t like having the AC switched on/off as a means of disconnect. If I understand correctly this causes the DC internal relay to have to

Re: [RE-wrenches] AC Coupled with Generator

2015-08-21 Thread Drake
I'm considering an AC coupled system with Enphase that would shed inverters a group at a time, ending up with one still charging until the set point is reached. At 12:56 AM 8/21/2015, you wrote: Hi Folks; I've done more research on the whole AC coupled issue, and one flaw I found with both t

Re: [RE-wrenches] AC Coupled with Generator

2015-08-21 Thread Starlight Solar Power Systems
Ray, I’m curious about what you mean by not doing a 3 stage charge. While PV charging in coupled mode (off grid), the battery will reach your absorption set point. Is this triggering the GT inverters to shut off or does the battery inverter absorb timer run at all? I would think the absorb time

Re: [RE-wrenches] AC Coupled with Generator

2015-08-21 Thread jerrysgarage01
;T 4G LTE smartphone Original message From: Ray Walters Date:08/20/2015 6:56 PM (GMT-10:00) To: RE-wrenches Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] AC Coupled with Generator Hi Folks; I've done more research on the whole AC coupled issue, and one flaw I found with both the Sunny

Re: [RE-wrenches] AC Coupled with Generator

2015-08-20 Thread Ray Walters
Hi Folks; I've done more research on the whole AC coupled issue, and one flaw I found with both the Sunny Island and the Radian is that they can't really do a full 3 stage charge for the batteries in off grid mode. They detect that the batteries are full and disconnect the AC coupled GT invert

Re: [RE-wrenches] AC Coupled with Generator

2015-08-17 Thread Jerry Shafer
Ray The Outback does not dump load it drops inverter string (s) instead Jerry On Mon, Aug 17, 2015 at 5:26 PM, Ray Walters wrote: > Yes, we're definitely planning a battery based inverter. The real trouble > is when the generator is charging, its AC power passes through to the loads > and hence

Re: [RE-wrenches] AC Coupled with Generator

2015-08-17 Thread Mac Lewis
Hi Ray, With that size grid-tied system, you would want to use a battery based inverter(s) near the (6.7/0.8) 8000W range. The frequency shift of the Sunny Islands will work with kicking out the enphase inverters but you wouldn't get the same output ramping that it would offer if it was a Sunny B

Re: [RE-wrenches] AC Coupled with Generator

2015-08-17 Thread Ray Walters
Yes, we're definitely planning a battery based inverter. The real trouble is when the generator is charging, its AC power passes through to the loads and hence to the Enphase inverters. Also I agree with the other poster about Outback being more cost effective. I just took a look at their Remo

Re: [RE-wrenches] AC Coupled with Generator

2015-08-17 Thread Jerry Shafer
I cant see this working well without some battery based inverter Jerry On Aug 17, 2015 10:10 AM, "Ray Walters" wrote: > HI Esteemed Wrenches: > > I am consulting on a system I have never seen, that consists of a 6.7Kw > Enphase roof mounted system, and 2 backup generators. Each generator has > a

Re: [RE-wrenches] AC Coupled with Generator

2015-08-17 Thread Peter Giroux
ASAE - Original Message - From: "Ray Walters" To: "RE-wrenches" Sent: Monday, August 17, 2015 4:10 PM Subject: [RE-wrenches] AC Coupled with Generator HI Esteemed Wrenches: I am consulting on a system I have never seen, that consists of a 6.7Kw Enphase roof m

[RE-wrenches] AC Coupled with Generator

2015-08-17 Thread Ray Walters
HI Esteemed Wrenches: I am consulting on a system I have never seen, that consists of a 6.7Kw Enphase roof mounted system, and 2 backup generators. Each generator has an automatic 200 amp transfer switch to back up its own 200 amp panel. Both 200 amp panels are fed by a 400 amp service from