Re: [RE-wrenches] Outback programing question

2016-04-29 Thread Ray Walters
Hi Jay; Ah, its for load shedding. How come the max input amps setting doesn't limit the total power drawn from the generator? That should throttle back the charging rate to maintain full power thru to the loads. Giving the batteries a 56 v for 5 min and dropping back to float wouldn't const

Re: [RE-wrenches] Outback programing question

2016-04-29 Thread jay
Hi Ray, I guess my answer is that its way easier to switch one button with easy access than go deep into the menus and have to change 4 inverters. This situation is a short term thing. In this case it is an issue as the generator cannot handle both the chargers and the load. And he doesn’t wa

Re: [RE-wrenches] Off Grid Generator

2016-04-29 Thread Travis Jordan
I have found the local Cummins rep to be very happy to set us up as a dealer for their generators. We buy through Cummins Northwest in either Missoula MT or Spokane WA. Last time I bought one I thought it was a bit over $4k if you hit me up off-line I will forward you my sales reps name and inf

Re: [RE-wrenches] Goofy roofing

2016-04-29 Thread August Goers
Benn, We’ve done it several ways including putting four 14 x 1.5” TYPE 17 screws per attachment point through the metal and into the 1” x wood purlin. The key is that the load path all the way down needs to be capable of handling the worst case loads. So we had to check that too. Some racking ma

Re: [RE-wrenches] Goofy roofing

2016-04-29 Thread Benn Kilburn
August, et al; If the purlins are only 1"x4" or 1"x6" or1"x anything, are you only relying on the 1" purlin as the attachment point or are you hitting the vertical trusses below the purlins? We are working on a corrugated roof right now and using a Schletter roof bracket. The name of it esc

Re: [RE-wrenches] 480 single phase delta

2016-04-29 Thread Jason Szumlanski
If it's 240V single phase center tapped between two legs of a 480V delta transformer, then one of the 240V legs *is* technically a neutral. What you have is two 240V legs between two of three 480V phases. That said, if the service from the utility is this type of 480/240V "split-phase," which presu

Re: [RE-wrenches] 480 single phase delta

2016-04-29 Thread Chris Mason
If it's delta there is no neutral. On Apr 29, 2016 12:40, "jay" wrote: > HI Jerry and all, > > I’m sorry if I confused the issue. > I haven’t seen this, I’m doing the research for a friend. > It has been measured at numbers provided. 480 line to line, 240v line to > neutral, 2 hots wires, not 3

Re: [RE-wrenches] Goofy roofing

2016-04-29 Thread Chris Mason
I would use Everest Express rail pop riveted to every trapezoid, it will add a lot of strength to the roofing. You may not bee able to get it any more though. On Apr 29, 2016 09:54, "frenergy" wrote: > Recently, a customer had a metal roof (not standing seam) installed by a > "handyman". Pretty

Re: [RE-wrenches] Goofy roofing

2016-04-29 Thread Jason Szumlanski
Look into the Versabracket. We get quite a lot of metal roofing installed around here over existing shingles with horizontal 1x4 battens. Spacing is usually 2', however. Jason Szumlanski On Fri, Apr 29, 2016 at 9:55 AM, frenergy wrote: > Recently, a customer had a metal roof (not standing se

Re: [RE-wrenches] 480 single phase delta

2016-04-29 Thread don
Hi Jay -Usually 408 delta will have 3 legs.  See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three-phase_electric_powerUnlike Wye, the neutral is center tapped from the winding between two of the legs.The third is a hi leg or "stinger" leg that is 1.5 times the others voltage to neutral.Sounds like what you have

Re: [RE-wrenches] Outback programing question

2016-04-29 Thread Ray Walters
What's wrong with the chargers being on? Just set the charge settings (absorb 56 v, and absorb time 5 minutes) fairly low. It will lightly charge for a few minutes, and then go to float. Just because your customer imagines this to be a problem, doesn't mean it actually is. Its not going to hur

Re: [RE-wrenches] Outback programing question

2016-04-29 Thread Darren Emmons
When the generator is auto started, the inverter's charger will be enabled. After the generator is stopped, the inverter's charger will be returned to the mode before the generator started. The logic is if you are running the generator the Inverter's charger should be enabled. You could lower t

Re: [RE-wrenches] Generac EcoGen problem

2016-04-29 Thread Rich Nicol
I've seen a number of Eco Gen's go with no issues for a long time and 2 others blow all the oil out just as Drake noted. Rather worrisome! Rich -Original Message- From: RE-wrenches [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf Of Drake Sent: Friday, April 29, 2016 1:18 PM To

Re: [RE-wrenches] Generac EcoGen problem

2016-04-29 Thread Drake
The one and only EcoGen I installed blew out its oil in within the first couple hours of running. It severely damaged the engine. Generac did the service and ultimately replaced the unit. It had something to do with the two reservoirs and the hoses. At 11:59 AM 4/29/2016, you wrote: Wrenche

Re: [RE-wrenches] Goofy roofing

2016-04-29 Thread Gordon Woodcock
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Re: [RE-wrenches] 480 single phase delta

2016-04-29 Thread jay
HI Jerry and all, I’m sorry if I confused the issue. I haven’t seen this, I’m doing the research for a friend. It has been measured at numbers provided. 480 line to line, 240v line to neutral, 2 hots wires, not 3. The client has been told by 3 different installers that its impossible syste

Re: [RE-wrenches] Goofy roofing

2016-04-29 Thread jay
Hi Bill, What about installing unistrut to the roof on those attachment points, then installing the racking to the unistrut? jay peltz power > On Apr 29, 2016, at 6:55 AM, frenergy wrote: > > Recently, a customer had a metal roof (not standing seam) installed by a > "handyman". Pretty clean

Re: [RE-wrenches] Siemens P4JF 75 watt PV module spec sheet

2016-04-29 Thread billbrooks7
Dana, Reaching back into my brain archives, having done a few projects with these modules, I know that many, if not all, of these modules were rated for a maximum system voltage of 48-volts. They can’t be used on higher voltage PV arrays. This was a budget version of their standard produ

Re: [RE-wrenches] Goofy roofing

2016-04-29 Thread August Goers
Hi Bill, It sounds like you’re talking about a purlin type setup – 4’ sounds a little far apart but I guess that’s what you have to deal with. If you have a corrugated metal roof, we’ve used S-5 CurruBrackets screwed through the metal and into the purlins and then either run the solar rail up an

Re: [RE-wrenches] Off-grid generator update?

2016-04-29 Thread Dana
Hardy has been purchased by SW Prod.; they are in of PHX, AZ. Great unit I agree, but 1 - not everyone is happy or comfortable with owning a diesel & 2 - at elevation here in CO with –F° temps it is not always a good choice without a warmed shed. -

Re: [RE-wrenches] RE-wrenches Digest, Vol 9, Issue 129

2016-04-29 Thread Drake
Hi Travis, Can you recommend a good supplier for the Onan RV #HGJAB units? Thanks, Drake At 10:59 PM 4/28/2016, Jordan Solar Sales wrote: For off-grid generators I have found that the Onan propane RV units like model #HGJAB are a great unit. (Onan is owned by Cummins, same units as Cumm

Re: [RE-wrenches] Off-grid generator update?

2016-04-29 Thread RE Ellison
Check out the hardy Diesel15 kW Perkins It's available and integrated fuel tank single or double walland a whole bunch of other goodies including autostart comes along with it Like I mentioned in the last message the The folks I know they're in real cool places put them in a small insulated buil

Re: [RE-wrenches] Goofy roofing

2016-04-29 Thread Kirpal Khalsa
Panels in landscape mode with rails running peak to gutter? On Apr 29, 2016 6:54 AM, "frenergy" wrote: > Recently, a customer had a metal roof (not standing seam) installed by a > "handyman". Pretty clean installation however for some reason he ran 1X6 > stringers across the roof on the 1/2" pl

[RE-wrenches] Goofy roofing

2016-04-29 Thread frenergy
Recently, a customer had a metal roof (not standing seam) installed by a "handyman". Pretty clean installation however for some reason he ran 1X6 stringers across the roof on the 1/2" plywood deck spaced about every 4 feet (as you go from ridge to eaves). Of course the roofing screws are at

Re: [RE-wrenches] 480 single phase delta

2016-04-29 Thread Garrison Riegel
The newer Tripower STP3 can be configured for delta, but the 12000-24000 cannot. A step up transformer sounds like the way to go. Best, Garrison Garrison Riegel Solar Service Inc From: RE-wrenches [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf Of jerrysgarage01 Sent: Thursda

Re: [RE-wrenches] 2014 NEC 705.22 disconnect for inverter capable of being locked

2016-04-29 Thread August Goers
Hi Jesse, A regular visible blade lockable AC disconnect will satisfy our plan checker’s concern. However, the utility does not require an AC disconnect in our area for most residential applications so oftentimes we just use the beaker as our disconnect. If we just use a back-fed breaker, he wan

Re: [RE-wrenches] Off-grid generator update?

2016-04-29 Thread Dana
Ditto here, if there is a 10-15KW, 1800 RPM water cooled generator out there, please share. The EPA requirements & definitions have killed every source I have had. An air cooled 3600 RPM generator is good for about 2000+/- hours before rebuild or replacement. Add to that the noise levels @ 3600 RPM