Re: [RE-wrenches] Aqueous Hybrid Ion batteries

2014-11-10 Thread Dave
Marco, How many Watt Hours is the AHI battery bank? Dave Palumbo From: RE-wrenches [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf Of Marco Mangelsdorf Sent: Monday, November 10, 2014 8:13 PM To: 'RE-wrenches' Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Aqueous Hybrid Ion batteries Incl

Re: [RE-wrenches] Aqueous Hybrid Ion batteries

2014-11-10 Thread Dave
Wrenches, Thanks for all the info on this topic today. Big question for me is. What are 3,000 (manufacturer claimed) deep cycles at 100% DOD worth vs 2,000 real world 80% DOD cycles on a HUP battery when the AHI battery's voltage drops below inverter operating voltage range at 50% (more or

Re: [RE-wrenches] Aqueous Hybrid Ion batteries

2014-11-10 Thread Marco Mangelsdorf
Including shipping from PA. to Hawaii ~ $12K. Without shipping $10,700 if memory serves though that was several months ago. The price may have come down. From: RE-wrenches [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf Of jay peltz Sent: Monday, November 10, 2014 3:07 PM To: RE-

Re: [RE-wrenches] Aqueous Hybrid Ion batteries

2014-11-10 Thread jay peltz
Hi Marco, what sort of price are we talking about? thanks jay On Nov 10, 2014, at 4:31 PM, Marco Mangelsdorf wrote: > This battery module—I have one sitting in my warehouse—is rated at 3,000 > cycles @ 100 percent DOD. I don’t know of anything else that’s comparable on > the market these d

[RE-wrenches] Aqueous Hybrid Ion batteries

2014-11-10 Thread Marco Mangelsdorf
This battery module-I have one sitting in my warehouse-is rated at 3,000 cycles @ 100 percent DOD. I don't know of anything else that's comparable on the market these days with those kinds of specs. If it performs as advertises, it's hot stuff.and not cheap. marco From: RE-wrenches [

Re: [RE-wrenches] Aqueous Hybrid Ion batteries

2014-11-10 Thread Jerry Shafer
I have been asked also and i have the same issues sure you can tank the battery but will never reconnect and the inverter so having the capibility to do to 100 % DoD does not work. Our customer likes the safety issue but i am not convinced yet. On Nov 10, 2014 9:28 AM, "Larry Crutcher" wrote: >

Re: [RE-wrenches] Aqueous Hybrid Ion batteries

2014-11-10 Thread Jarmo . Venalainen
Hi: We looked at these batteries for use with our product. One other thing to consider is that they have quite a high operating impedance. If there are large peak loads, this makes a minimum battery bank physically quite large. No doubt the technology will improve though. JARMO _

Re: [RE-wrenches] Aqueous Hybrid Ion batteries

2014-11-10 Thread b...@midnitesolar.com
Yes, that voltage range is a problem but it has evidently been improving. It used to be much worse. We will see. boB On 11/10/2014 11:37 AM, Baxter, Gary wrote: We have been asked to lower the DC input voltage to take advantage of these batteries. What engineering is saying is we can't go lo

Re: [RE-wrenches] Aqueous Hybrid Ion batteries

2014-11-10 Thread Baxter, Gary
We have been asked to lower the DC input voltage to take advantage of these batteries. What engineering is saying is we can't go low enough on the low side and still produce peak AC voltage. Seems these batteries are catching on might need to revisit this again. Gary Baxter Product Manager Magn

Re: [RE-wrenches] Aqueous Hybrid Ion batteries

2014-11-10 Thread b...@midnitesolar.com
Aquion's technology is evidently getting better and better from what we have seen. Ryan Stankevitz from MidNite may be able tell you more if you would like an external opinion boB On 11/10/2014 9:10 AM, Dave wrote: Wrenches, I have a customer with a grid-tied w battery back-up (former

Re: [RE-wrenches] Aqueous Hybrid Ion batteries

2014-11-10 Thread Larry Crutcher
David, Something does not add up to me. The cell has a voltage discharge curve way outside of RE equipment, 1.75 Vpc down to 0.5Vpc. I can't see how this technology could be scaled to RE applications without wasting much of the capacity. From what I see, only about 40% could be used before LVD

Re: [RE-wrenches] Comp roof care

2014-11-10 Thread jay peltz
Google yellow spaghetti roof walkway Best stuff ever Jay Peltz power > On Nov 9, 2014, at 9:27 PM, Jerry Shafer wrote: > > Like you said if the roof gets hot get off, we do use carpet strips but they > are messy, i have been on a roof since i could walk (ya really) and i was > tought not

Re: [RE-wrenches] LBX with Magnum?

2014-11-10 Thread Baxter, Gary
Hi Jeremy, I think you are talking about two different things here. LBX mode in the SW was for connecting to an AC input which is the same using Connect VDC with the Magnum. I think what you are referring to here is the cut in voltage after a low battery cutout. On all Magnum inverters the VDC

Re: [RE-wrenches] Aqueous Hybrid Ion batteries

2014-11-10 Thread Dave
Wrenches, I have a customer with a grid-tied w battery back-up (formerly off-grid) with failing LA batteries. He found these batteries on the web and asked me to check them out. Anyone out there know anything about this AHI technology and or this company, Aquion Energy? http://www.aquionene