Re: [RE-wrenches] Flickering LED lights on and Outback Dual 7248VFXsystem

2014-01-06 Thread frenergy
sorry, in my $.02 worth below I forgot to mention, none of my LEDs are on dimmers. Todd, I have never noticed an issue when using the 2 meter and the LEDs are on. I'll have to keep a keener ear next time. Bill - Original Message - From: toddc...@finestplanet.com To: RE-wrenche

Re: [RE-wrenches] Deka AGMs

2014-01-06 Thread Howie Michaelson
Kevin, I would be interested in the "factory testing process and inspection sheets" as well. Thanks, Howie -- Howie Michaelson NABCEP Certified Solar PV Installer™ Catamount Solar, LLC Renewable Energy Systems Sales and Service VT Solar Electric & Hot Water Incentive Partner http://www.Catamoun

Re: [RE-wrenches] Deka AGMs

2014-01-06 Thread Howie Michaelson
Kevin, What 2 volt battery charger do you use for either SLA and/or flooded deep cycle batteries? What are the specs on it? Availability? We have tried to source a 2 volt charger in the past and the only ones we found were cost prohibitive. Does anyone have any good leads for such an item? Tha

Re: [RE-wrenches] Flickering LED lights on and Outback Dual 7248VFX system

2014-01-06 Thread toddcory
the only ones i have on a dimmer are in the bathroom and they flicker. being we are grid tied (GVFX-3648) and the grid is up, i suspect this is because of a bad dimmer/lamp combo. anyone find the RFI from led lamps a problem? i have to shut all mine off when using the 2 meter ham rig. todd

[RE-wrenches] Flickering LED lights on and Outback Dual 7248VFX system

2014-01-06 Thread frenergy
Another $.02 I have 2, FX3524's and 35 KWhrs of HUP's behind themjust cleaned and torqued the terminals/cables. I run 6-7 brands, sizes, styles of LEDS and some of them of them flicker while, in my case, the convection oven is running. It quickly pulses (~10-20 times/second)

Re: [RE-wrenches] Flickering LED lights on and Outback Dual 7248 VFX system

2014-01-06 Thread Jerry Shafer
I have had this same thing happen with a off grid application using SMA SI's it rooted back to programming one inverter was going to sleep and under some loads the lights would flicker and they were over the dinning room table and suspended from a 16 foot ceiling so it lit up the entire room. I kno

Re: [RE-wrenches] Flickering LED lights on and Outback Dual 7248 VFX system

2014-01-06 Thread Exeltech
There may also be a technical aspect of the dimmer that's adding to the flicker, depending on the type of dimmer(s) in use. Some dimmers use a device called a "silicon-controlled rectifier" .. or "SCR". They allow only half of the sine wave to pass. Half-wave power wasn't very noticeable when

Re: [RE-wrenches] Flickering LED lights on and Outback Dual 7248 VFX system

2014-01-06 Thread Kirpal Khalsa
Thanks folks for the ideas! So far I have advised a few things.I will report back any successes.. Here is the advice I have shared. 1. Get some different makes and models of LED light bulbs to try out 2. Get some different dimmer switches to try out 3. Try some lights on non dimmer ty

Re: [RE-wrenches] Flickering LED lights on and Outback Dual 7248 VFX system

2014-01-06 Thread Dan Fink
I think it's for sure how fast LEDs react boB. That's why I don't see it with other lighting technologies like CFL etc. But I don't understand a fridge that causes constant flicker when it is on. Too bad it's not easy to just try another fridge! Trying another light is much easier ;-) Dan Fink, E

Re: [RE-wrenches] Flickering LED lights on and Outback Dual 7248 VFX system

2014-01-06 Thread b...@midnitesolar.com
Only during Big load surges ? Could it be current limiting and because LEDs are so fast on and off, you notice the drop in momentary voltage ? Any inverter might do that under the right conditions. Just a thought. boB On 1/6/2014 3:45 PM, Dan Fink wrote: I consider LED flicker as very c

Re: [RE-wrenches] Flickering LED lights on and Outback Dual 7248 VFX system

2014-01-06 Thread Dan Fink
I consider LED flicker as very common when a fridge starts up, but NOT while it's running. Both dimmed and not dimmed LEDs. I see flicker more often on systems with smaller (or aging) battery systems of course. The only particular appliance I have found causing constant flicker here and with my cli

Re: [RE-wrenches] IBE Battery Flags

2014-01-06 Thread Allan Sindelar
William, We have used numerous sets of IBEs over the years; I have them in my home. Well made. There's no standard. Every aspect of cabling is up to you. We have ordered all flag and one flag/one terminal, and even 4V cases with one welded series term

Re: [RE-wrenches] IBE Battery Flags

2014-01-06 Thread Ray Walters
Hi William; I haven't seen any standard really.  I noticed that HUPs switched from 5/16" hardware to 1/4".  I'm old school like you, and prefer 5/16" hardware, however I think if you look at the lbs of compression that the 1/4" bolt can provide, it's still

Re: [RE-wrenches] Deka AGMs

2014-01-06 Thread Kevin Pegg
Hi August, I have many of these batteries in service. They are generally very good batteries but they must be charged properly. Which goes for any battery, really, but these are not as easily recovered from under-charge. At 12 years old I would expect they are approaching end of service, so g

[RE-wrenches] IBE Battery Flags

2014-01-06 Thread William Miller
Friends: We replaced a set of 24 IBE batteries recently. The original set had all batteries with captive cables (and one flag) except one, which had two flags. This made it easy to connect the leads from the BOS: there was a flag on the positive and negative ends. The new set had all b

Re: [RE-wrenches] Flickering LED lights on and Outback Dual 7248 VFX system

2014-01-06 Thread Jay Peltz
Dimmers are super specific to light brand/type. You'll have to do the research For now swapping to regular switches should work Jay > ___ List sponsored by Home Power magazine List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Change email address &

Re: [RE-wrenches] Flickering LED lights on and Outback Dual 7248 VFX system

2014-01-06 Thread Kirpal Khalsa
Thank you DanI will have customer check that! Good idea.That is always a good idea!! Sunny Regards, Kirpal Khalsa NABCEP Certified PV Installation Professional Renewable Energy Systems www.oregonsolarworks.com 541-218-0201 m 541-592-3958 o On Mon, Jan 6, 2014 at 1:38 PM, wrote: > Migh

Re: [RE-wrenches] Flickering LED lights on and Outback Dual 7248 VFX system

2014-01-06 Thread dan
Might be worth checking battery connections.. Dan BrownFoxfire Energy Corp.Renewable Energy Systems(802)-483-2564www.Foxfire-Energy.comNABCEP #092907-44 Original Message Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Flickering LED lights on and Outback Dual 7248 VFX system From: Jay Peltz

Re: [RE-wrenches] Flickering LED lights on and Outback Dual 7248 VFX system

2014-01-06 Thread Kirpal Khalsa
Jay...yes the lights are on Lutron dimmer switches which are made specifically for CFL and LED lights.it doesn't seem to make a difference if they lights are on full tilt or dimmed downthe flickering is there at any power level Thanks!! Sunny Regards, Kirpal Khalsa NABCEP Certified PV

Re: [RE-wrenches] Flickering LED lights on and Outback Dual 7248 VFX system

2014-01-06 Thread Jay Peltz
Hi Kirpal Are the lights on dimmers? Jay Peltz power Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 6, 2014, at 1:09 PM, Kirpal Khalsa wrote: > > Hi All.have a puzzling problemcustomer has a fully LED lit house. > All LED lights are flickering when the fridge compressor, tile saw, grinder, > washin

Re: [RE-wrenches] Deka AGMs

2014-01-06 Thread Ray Walters
I finally found a cycle life chart on these: they're rated at 1200 cycles to 80% DOD, and about 2000 cycles @40% DOD. In an "average" off grid system at 12 years old, I'd say they're near the end of their life. In a back up setup, who knows. I've tested systems like this before, I basically turn

[RE-wrenches] Flickering LED lights on and Outback Dual 7248 VFX system

2014-01-06 Thread Kirpal Khalsa
Hi All.have a puzzling problemcustomer has a fully LED lit house. All LED lights are flickering when the fridge compressor, tile saw, grinder, washing machine etc come onThe inverters are about 6 years old Dual Outback VFX7248 power system with rolls surrrette batteries.they are bui

[RE-wrenches] Deka AGMs

2014-01-06 Thread August Goers
All Battery Wrenches, I’m servicing an existing battery backup system with some big Deka AGM battery banks. I believe they are about 12 years old. Does anyone have any general comments about Deka batteries? Any suggestions about how I would test these would be greatly appreciated. Here’s a link

Re: [RE-wrenches] CA Fire code

2014-01-06 Thread David Brearley
With regards to the second part of your question, Trina has a glass-on-glass PV module: http://www.trinasolar.com/us/product/PDG5.html I suspect that the glass-on-glass module from SolarWorld is Class A fire rated as well. ___ List sponsored by Home

Re: [RE-wrenches] CA Fire code

2014-01-06 Thread David Brearley
Lars, Back in October, UL was in the process of finalizing a new fire test method for for roof-mounted PV systems. This new test method will bridge the gap between the fire tests for roofing coverings (UL 790) and those found in UL 1703, the standard for flat-plate PV modules. Long story short,

Re: [RE-wrenches] CA Fire code

2014-01-06 Thread Dan Fink
Wow Lars. setbacks and signage are ICC 2012, and auto rooftop discos NEC2014, where did this Class A bus you got thrown under come from? It's not ICC or NEC from what I can read. Is there an SEIA person on this list? Pretty much every install I do here in Colorado is wildland/urban interface. W

[RE-wrenches] CA Fire code

2014-01-06 Thread Lars Ortegren
Wrenches, If you are in a wild land fire zone in CA, it looks like we are all in for a rude awakening. Our local AHJ is requiring not only set backs for ventilation of roofs, but also THAT ALL PANELS ON THE ROOF CARY A CLASS A FIRE RATING! It doesn't take allot of research to realize that this pret