Re: [RE-wrenches] Reliable Cheap Modsine Inverter

2013-03-13 Thread Ray Walters
That looks great Eric; thanks for sharing.  For this particular market (under 1000 watt inverter) UL/ ETL listing is just not an issue.  As soon as we're going for a full on code compliant house system, complete with Finicky AHJ, we're looking at Magnum or Outback

Re: [RE-wrenches] Reliable Cheap Modsine Inverter

2013-03-13 Thread Jesse Dahl
The point Dan makes about boxes and strain reliefs is a big second for me. I actually do many of this type of systems each year. Jesse Sent from my iPhone On Mar 13, 2013, at 12:57 PM, Dan Fink wrote: > Bob; agreed! > > And to add to your 24v issue from my own Morningstar SureSine wish lis

Re: [RE-wrenches] Reliable Cheap Modsine Inverter

2013-03-13 Thread Ray Walters
The Exeltech was my original choice, but the 100 watt load is a bit too close to the rating for an inverter in an uncooled location. Exeltech tech support recommended the 250, but the inverter was pushing 1/4 of the total budget per unit, so the customer asked if I could reduce the cost. I foun

Re: [RE-wrenches] Reliable Cheap Modsine Inverter

2013-03-13 Thread Dan Fink
Eric; Please contact me off-list. Very interested. And no, I have never done a single install where the SureSine needs to meet any code whatsoever, UL or otherwise. We want solid, secure and reliable. We are moving these things around in backpacks, canoes, helicopters. Dan Fink, Executive Dire

Re: [RE-wrenches] Reliable Cheap Modsine Inverter

2013-03-13 Thread maver...@mavericksolar.com
How about the Exeltech XP125? We have used a few of those and of course many of the Morningstar units. Thank you, Maverick Maverick Brown BSEET, NABCEP Certified Solar PV Installer ® President & CEO Maverick Solar Enterprises, Inc. Office: 512-919-4493 Cell:512-460-9825 Sent from

Re: [RE-wrenches] Reliable Cheap Modsine Inverter

2013-03-13 Thread Eric Youngren
Hi Dan, We build a pre-wired power center based around the SureSine 300. So far we've been sending most of them to East Africa to power computers, lights and phone chargers in schools and clinics. The chassis are made by the same sheet metal fabricator who builds boxes for Midnite and Magnum,

Re: [RE-wrenches] Reliable Cheap Modsine Inverter

2013-03-13 Thread Ray Walters
Thanks Dan. The loads are very small (under 1 A @120 VAC), so I don't see the need for a breaker box. It's not an NEC compliant install and the inverter is literally incapable of exceeding the wiring ampacity. Grounding/ bonding may be an issue, but I don't have a problem with the bond being

Re: [RE-wrenches] Reliable Cheap Modsine Inverter

2013-03-13 Thread Dan Fink
We have a nice old Tripp-Lite inverter in the attic somewhere here that would be a *great* baseline of square wave from which to compare any sort of "modified" square wave! Oh sorry, they now call it modified "sine" wave. My bad. Dan Fink, Executive Director; Otherpower Buckville Energy Consulting

Re: [RE-wrenches] Reliable Cheap Modsine Inverter

2013-03-13 Thread Larry Crutcher, Starlight Solar Power Systems
Hi Ray, Since you have no budget for sine wave, the best, low cost modified square wave we have sold is the GoPower GP-300W. We sell it in our retail store for $39. Actually that statement needs to be qualified; the BEST mod. square wave inverter we have ever sold/installed was the Powerstar 13

Re: [RE-wrenches] Reliable Cheap Modsine Inverter

2013-03-13 Thread Dan Fink
Bob; agreed! And to add to your 24v issue from my own Morningstar SureSine wish list Some sort of "power panel" type box, but deep, that houses the SureSine inside with easy mounting of the inverter, secure strain relief on everything especially the DC input wires, DIN rail for PV input DC a

Re: [RE-wrenches] Reliable Cheap Modsine Inverter

2013-03-13 Thread bob ellison
I can second the Morningstar SureSine, it just works! To bad it is not available in 24 volts. I keep hoping. Bob Ellison -Original Message- From: re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf Of Dan Fink Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2

Re: [RE-wrenches] Reliable Cheap Modsine Inverter

2013-03-13 Thread Jesse Dahl
I have to agree with the Morningstar. I've had countless people come to me for fish house and hunting shack projects that used "truck stop" inverters when they fail (and they do). Some take my recommendation, some don't. The ones that upgrade to the Morningstar love them. The others call again.

Re: [RE-wrenches] Reliable Cheap Modsine Inverter

2013-03-13 Thread Dan Fink
Ray; Keep in mind that with truck stop inverters, everything *must* be plugged into the front 120vac outlets on the inverter. You can use a power strip, but can NOT run a wire to a breaker box. The ground/neutral bond will fry most of these inverters, and you could see some significant leakage on

[RE-wrenches] Reliable Cheap Modsine Inverter

2013-03-13 Thread Ray Walters
Hi Guys; I have a project that will need multiple small battery based inverters. Each one will only be running a 100 w max. computer power supply, so there are no significant surges, and modsine will be fine (most small UPS systems only put out modsine) Avg load will be 20 watts. I know the