[RE-wrenches] 690.4B discussion

2011-04-10 Thread Nick Vida
200.6(D) mentions the separating and labeling of conductors of different systems thumb through that one and you should be able to get a guy on your side. I agree with the zip tie idea as a suitable partition and you see it everywhere.___ List sponsored

[RE-wrenches] 690.4B discussion

2011-04-10 Thread greg
Hi Kirk,I believe this may be solved by good old definitions within 690. I do not have my 08 here as a Journeyman borrowed it to study, but these definitions have not changed, this is from 2011 NEC:Photovoltaic Source Circuit: Circuits between modules and from modules to the common connection point

Re: [RE-wrenches] SLDs with Mac

2011-04-10 Thread Keith Cronin
Max, et al. I've also found parallels to be clunky a couple of years ago as well. Rumored that the new version is catching up to VMWare. Even when VMWare first came out, it was a little slow to boot the OS- aka, Windows XP. They've made some great strides since then, so perhaps consider an upg

Re: [RE-wrenches] SLDs with Mac

2011-04-10 Thread Max Balchowsky
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Re: [RE-wrenches] 690.4 (B) ???

2011-04-10 Thread Max Balchowsky
Kirk, we put a 4x4 gutter under the equipment (inverters, disconnects, AC and DC, if not using an Inverter with the DC disc integrated) it looks neater and then you tie wrap the DC together And AC together in the gutter. 3/4 inch conduit risers to the equipment from the gutter and you have a nea

Re: [RE-wrenches] 690.4 (B) ???

2011-04-10 Thread William Miller
Dan: Just to be clear, I am not suggesting that Kirk draw anything. I suggest he refer to the drawing identified as Figure 690.1(B) in the 2008 NEC. If the inspector will still not accept the facts, there is usually an appeal process. I'm all for being polite, but I am also in favor of not

Re: [RE-wrenches] 690.4 (B) ???

2011-04-10 Thread Exeltech
Kirk, Show an ohmic connection between the main panel, the sub-panel, and and the inverter output, you've met the burden of proof pertaining to the "connected together" aspect of the NEC, and thus the allowance for the sets of conductors to co-exist in the same conduit. Politely point out that th

Re: [RE-wrenches] 690.4 (B) ???

2011-04-10 Thread Kirk Herander, VSE
My situation does not concern AC and DC in the same raceway. It concerns an AC conductor from the utility main panel to a load subpanel, and a separate AC inverter output from an inverter combiner panel, back to the main panel, not being allowed in the same conduit - at least that's the interpretat

Re: [RE-wrenches] 690.4 (B) ???

2011-04-10 Thread William Miller
Kirk: When you say inverter combiner, I am confident you mean the device combining the AC output conductors of multiple inverters. I got the same jive from an over zealous inspector once, but he and your inspector are just plain wrong. Examine and show them the diagram in the code book of