Re: [RE-wrenches] Skystream 3.7 experiences?

2008-12-23 Thread Matt Tritt
Roger, etc., All reports that have come my way basically concur; with one interesting exception - that being from a SkyStream owner (and "urban wind dealer"). They are claiming about "500 kWh/per month" from their machine, which is located smack-dab in the urban heart of San Francisco. This is

Re: [RE-wrenches] Generartor Auto-Start Issues

2008-12-23 Thread Eric Andrews
I am curious, as a somewhat green off-grid installer, are those of you having such bad luck w/ the AGS/MATE using a GSCM, such as the Atkinson products? Or just relying on the OB relay and two wire start gennies? I seem to be having better luck than others thus far (knock on wood) w/ our off-grid

Re: [RE-wrenches] Skystream 3.7 experiences?

2008-12-23 Thread roger dixon
I support and second the thoughts and comments Roy has voiced, as the real world experience does not yet marry up to the projections and subsequent client/owner expectations. Without a customer production meter, owners are basically happy with their units (they rotate so they make power J). With

Re: [RE-wrenches] Skystream 3.7 experiences?

2008-12-23 Thread Roy Butler
Phil and all, The industry insiders have a great saying that sums this all up Skystream owners without production meters love their turbines. Those with meters hate them. Let's hope SWWP does what it must to turn this around and do what's right for the industry. Hey...I can dream ca

Re: [RE-wrenches] Generartor Auto-Start Issues

2008-12-23 Thread Christopher Freitas
Season's Greetings - We have been having severe weather in the NW since last week and we elected to close OutBack today due to the snowy roads. I am actually traveling but will check for messages for the remainder of the holiday break. Fell free to email me directly if you have any tech supp

Re: [RE-wrenches] Skystream 3.7 experiences?

2008-12-23 Thread ASAP POWER! 2
Louis, Remember when you, me, Hugh P, and Michael W. went a few rounds regarding my earliest foray into the renewable energy biz? It was a 7ft. spruce prop attached to used automotive alternators in a steel plate welded and spray-painted box. Boy, was I green (so to speak, I guess that means som

Re: [RE-wrenches] small grid-tie wind

2008-12-23 Thread Phil Schneider
This is similar to our experience. The price tag of wind sometimes looks appealing, but it is hard to convince a potential buyer that it is going to cost them much more than PV over 25 years for the equivalent kWhs. I am putting an increasing effort into steering prospects towards PV. I will say

Re: [RE-wrenches] Skystream 3.7 experiences?

2008-12-23 Thread Phil Schneider
Our experience with the Skystream here in Wyoming has been good so far. We have installed 6, the oldest one being in operation for about 14 months. One is part of a battery based grid-tie system, and operated well when tested. One of the turbines is in world-class wind in Southeast Wyoming. I ju

Re: [RE-wrenches] mate issues AND MORE ISSUES

2008-12-23 Thread robert ellison
This makes it hard to decide if the problem is auto starting (it is) or lousy gear and poor support? Anyone notice a pattern of support here? I avoid auto start because murphy moves in on the better designed systems and bites you in the rear sooner that later, on the lousy ones like the start of th

Re: [RE-wrenches] mate issues AND MORE ISSUES

2008-12-23 Thread Tom Elliot
Todd, Excellent points to which I'd add I've been wondering just how well-designed these off-grid homes are that need generators to be running when the home is unoccupied for long periods of time. A home that uses that much power with no one in it is simply badly designed. Tom - Origi

Re: [RE-wrenches] mate issues AND MORE ISSUES

2008-12-23 Thread Walt Ratterman
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Re: [RE-wrenches] small grid-tie wind

2008-12-23 Thread Wind-sun.com
Our sales in dollar amount over the past couple of years are probably around 4% wind and 80% solar (the rest is misc batteries etc). Of that 4%, I would guess that it accounts for around 15% of our problems, warranty, phone and email time spent. While some brands are worse than others, the si

Re: [RE-wrenches] mate issues AND MORE ISSUES

2008-12-23 Thread Todd Cory
I know this is not the topic, but I never set up auto genny starts and this thread only confirms the correctness of that decision. Having a machine automatically start/stop while unattended is IMO a recipe for, at best damage to gear and, at worst a fire that could destroy the entire homestead.

Re: [RE-wrenches] small grid-tie wind

2008-12-23 Thread Kurt Albershardt
--On Tuesday, December 23, 2008 8:57 AM -0800 Randy Brooks wrote: I had a Bergey Xl.1 grid tied through an OutBack GFX2524 for a couple years as a demo project at my home/office.  It worked fine.  I did not keep track of production because I had it on a 40' tower in a poor wind site.  I've s

[RE-wrenches] XL.1 grid tie

2008-12-23 Thread Randy Brooks
Kurt, I had a Bergey Xl.1 grid tied through an OutBack GFX2524 for a couple years as a demo project at my home/office. It worked fine. I did not keep track of production because I had it on a 40' tower in a poor wind site. I've since sold the turbine and inverter. I'm still looking fo

Re: [RE-wrenches] Skystream 3.7 experiences?

2008-12-23 Thread Kurt Albershardt
--On Monday, December 22, 2008 6:23 PM -0500 Roy Butler wrote: In a nutshell.this unit is not ready for prime time yet. Lots of bugs and glitches. Not to mention much lower than expected energy production. --On Monday, December 22, 2008 5:13 PM -0700 Louis Woofenden wrote: We've in

Re: [RE-wrenches] Info on Bill

2008-12-23 Thread Mark Frye
Peter, Here is a link to the City of Berkeley program. http://www.ci.berkeley.ca.us/ContentDisplay.aspx?id=26580 I believe the bill you are refereing to has to do with the status of California cities. Previously, if you were a "charter" city, you had the right to establish special assessment

[RE-wrenches] Info on Bill

2008-12-23 Thread Peter Parrish
Does anyone know of a good article that discusses the CA Bill that passed a while ago that authorizes Counties (Cities?) to issue bonds to finance the issuance of low interest loans to homeowners so that they can finance the purchase solar systems and pay them back over 20 years as an add-on to the

Re: [RE-wrenches] Skystream 3.7 experiences?

2008-12-23 Thread Travis Creswell
These folks are "eagerly" sharing their real world experiences. http://blog.keepturning.com/ Their comments mirror what we are hearing from owners in our region. You can also go to the Fat Spaniel and find some production numbers. Remember they advertise 400kWh month in a 12mph site. I was rece