Re: [RE-wrenches] Braided grounding wire

2008-08-22 Thread Sky Sims
Good point Jay. I'm sure we all strive for uniformity and a one size fits all solution, but I agree, in the end every site is unique and requires custom solutions tailored to its actual conditions. Always appreciate your thoughtful take on things, Sky Sims Ecological Systems http://www.ecological

Re: [RE-wrenches] Braided grounding wire

2008-08-22 Thread jay peltz
One issue that has been troubling me is the 1 size fits all. We live and work in many really different environments. Because of this, what works here might not work there, but just because it doesn't work there, does not mean that I shouldn't be able to use it here. Lets look at the the dese

Re: [RE-wrenches] Braided grounding wire

2008-08-22 Thread jay peltz
Hi Robert, Yes quick cable # 50401 for 100' roll. Size is #4 jay peltz power On Aug 22, 2008, at 5:38 PM, robert ellison wrote: Try Quick Cable, seems that they have it if I remember correctly. Bob On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 11:41 AM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Anybody know a source for braide

Re: [RE-wrenches] Braided grounding wire

2008-08-22 Thread robert ellison
Try Quick Cable, seems that they have it if I remember correctly. Bob On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 11:41 AM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Anybody know a source for braided grounding wire? Internet search > fruitless.. > > Holt E. Kelly > Holtek Fireplace & Solar Products > 500 Jewell Dr. > Waco,

Re: [RE-wrenches] offgrid system question

2008-08-22 Thread Peter Parrish
Darryl, see my post yesterday (I think). If you have the tonnage and the SEER/EER you know the operating current, period. As for start up transient, I think we need to get help from someone who has actually measured the transient (I think I saw a post about that a couple of days ago?). And, when

Re: [RE-wrenches] offgrid system question

2008-08-22 Thread Darryl Thayer
I use for a short cut 1 AC ton is 1 HP mechanical or 1kW electrical. So If I have a 3 ton heat pump I figure the compressor is about a 1 horse power motor and about 1 kW running load. If that is 240 volts that is about 4 0r 5 amps. Because I have had some starting problems, I say that the runni

Re: [RE-wrenches] Braided grounding wire

2008-08-22 Thread Sky Sims
Braided wire works great for grounding and lasts a long time. I've seen it sit in a puddle of water for over 20 years. I will say that the green oxide coating occurs pretty soon after installation usually in the first 6 months to 1 year whether its solid wire or braided. Its caused by the interacti

Re: [RE-wrenches] Braided grounding wire

2008-08-22 Thread R. Walters
We don't use braided for direct burial. We use it to bond to the array, run with the PV wires, and switch to regular copper as soon as we go into conduit at the first J box. We zip tie it together in a bundle with all the MC cables. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Braid tends to "wick" water, and we

Re: [RE-wrenches] Braided grounding wire

2008-08-22 Thread R. Walters
We've used braided, plated ground strap for over a decade. We inherited the practice from commercial size tracking systems installed in the 70s and early 80s. Anixter wire is our supplier. I can get you a part number if you need. We isolate it from direct contact with aluminum, with stainless

Re: [RE-wrenches] Braided grounding wire

2008-08-22 Thread Wind-sun.com
The problem is not stranded, it is fine stranded, such as braid or welding cable. The Navy banned the use of it ages ago for mainly that reason and went to flexible grounding copper sheet straps, but of course corrosion is a much bigger issue there. Braid tends to "wick" water, and we have see

Re: [RE-wrenches] Braided grounding wire

2008-08-22 Thread Walt Ratterman
When you get into the larger sizes - such sd what ised for ground loops around buildings the ground wire is stranded. Braided wire is used for flexible connections such as expansion fittings. Movement over time tends to break solid wire. Thanks Walt SunEnergy Power Int'l) www.sunepi.org Wal

Re: [RE-wrenches] Braided grounding wire

2008-08-22 Thread Peter Parrish
You might give the guys at NorthWest Data Comm, Reno, NV a call. Peter T. Parrish, _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 22, 2008 8:41 AM To: RE-wrenches Subject: [RE-wrenches] Braided grounding wire Anybody know a

Re: [RE-wrenches] RE-wrenches Digest, Vol 1, Issue 76

2008-08-22 Thread Jeff Blick
Randy, We installed fronius inverters outdoors in Durango, CO. I did not do the designs for these systems, however they were installed in December, and operated just fine throughout a very burly winter. Hope this helps. You may want to contact Allan Ross at Bland Solar as he did the designs for

Re: [RE-wrenches] Braided grounding wire

2008-08-22 Thread Wind-sun.com
I was under the impression that braided or fine strand wire was a no-no for grounding because it corrodes so much faster and easier than solid wire. .. Northern Arizona Wind & Sun - Electricity From Th

Re: [RE-wrenches] offgrid system question

2008-08-22 Thread jay peltz
Hi Peter and others, This has been super helpful. My customer's electrical designer has calculated the AC units 2.5 ton at 9.5Kw. so this really helps me to be able to go to him armed with good data. thanks again, jay peltz power On Aug 22, 2008, at 8:29 AM, Peter Parrish wrote: There ar

[RE-wrenches] Braided grounding wire

2008-08-22 Thread holtek
Anybody know a source for braided grounding wire? Internet search fruitless.. Holt E. Kelly Holtek Fireplace & Solar Products 500 Jewell Dr. Waco,Tx. 76712 254-751-9111 254-228-9621 (cell) [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Kurt Albershardt To: RE-wrenches Sent:

Re: [RE-wrenches] offgrid system question

2008-08-22 Thread Peter Parrish
There are two figures of merit that can be used to make the conversion. The simplist is EER. First, how many "tons" the AC is rated at? Multiply that number by 12,000 BTU/hr per ton, to get the number of BTU/hr the AC system can pump out of the house. Second, EER is the ration of the BTU/hr to e

Re: [RE-wrenches] offgrid system question

2008-08-22 Thread holtek
http://www.onlineconversion.com/power.htm Holt E. Kelly Holtek Fireplace & Solar Products 500 Jewell Dr. Waco,Tx. 76712 254-751-9111 254-228-9621 (cell) [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: jay peltz To: RE-wrenches Sent: Friday, August 22, 2008 9:23 AM Subject: Re: [

Re: [RE-wrenches] offgrid system question

2008-08-22 Thread jay peltz
Hi Travis, thanks for the great insite, this helps a lot. So the higher the SEER number the more efficient the unit is. thanks, jay On Aug 22, 2008, at 7:40 AM, Travis Creswell wrote: 1 ton = 12,000 BTU's SEER = how many BTU's per kW (Since you asked about "rough electrical load" for thi

Re: [RE-wrenches] Summer cooling

2008-08-22 Thread jay peltz
Hi Ray, I hadn't heard about condensation from infloor cooling but makes sense that it could happen. Most of the infloor cooling that you are mentioning is from a regular AC unit not say using solar thermal panels at night? thanks, jay On Aug 20, 2008, at 3:33 PM, R. Walters wrote: H

Re: [RE-wrenches] offgrid system question

2008-08-22 Thread Travis Creswell
1 ton = 12,000 BTU's SEER = how many BTU's per kW (Since you asked about "rough electrical load" for this equation we're going to ignore the complexities for EER vs. SEER, COP at varying outdoor temps and so on. We'll leave that for someone else to discuss if they desire) Plus you'll want to add

Re: [RE-wrenches] offgrid system question

2008-08-22 Thread jay peltz
Can someone tell me how to convert AC "tons" to rough electrical load? or is there a way? I've got a customer who is wanting to install a AC unit and they tell me its a 2.5 ton and uses 9000 watts. ( they haven't given me make or model yet) thanks, jay ___