[RBW] Re: Wheel-building Advice

Every amateur wheelbuilder has their own preferred spokes; DT Swiss, Sapim from Belgium and Phil Wood are generally regarded as excellent by everyone. I like double-butted Sapim Race or Sapim Laser, which used to be available in all lengths for the crazy cheap price of $0.40 for the Races from

Re: [RBW] Re: Ro-Deux-No build notes New Bike Day

Mark, Have you checked that the seatpost binder bolt is greased? On my new Appaloosa, it wasn’t. I was having slipping issues until one day I tried to tighten it too hard and the bolt snapped. A new bolt, well-greased, and I never had a problem again. Didn’t need to tighten much either! All thi

Re: [RBW] Re: Looking for a 59cm Clem

Thanks, Garth. I hadn't followed the model's genesis. Can any owner and rider say how the H compares in handling and overall "fit and feel" to the L? Does anyone know where to find the geom specs for the H? Thanks. On Tue, Sep 3, 2024 at 11:27 AM Garth wrote: > Patrick, the first Clems were m

Re: [RBW] A Different Kind of RR

I am waiting to hear the write up from a Bill L/Leah anything goes ride! Bill, just to play devil's advocate... what bike are you going to take?!!! On Saturday, August 31, 2024 at 6:36:07 PM UTC-7 Bill Lindsay wrote: > "when are you going to meet me in GR so we can experience this lunacy > si

Re: [RBW] Re: Looking for a 59cm Clem

Thanks, Kim; that is very doable and in fact the list for a built-up Clem on the Riv site is very attractive. Color is of least concern, especially as, for now, I am thinking of one to use as a beater; patchwork or primer with a few dents would be ideal. I'm much more interested in the ride feel (

Re: [RBW] Re: Looking for a 59cm Clem

Hi Patrick! bikeinsights.com has the geometry. I can’t link the geo chart directly but you can look it up there! I can’t say if it is 100% accurate but it seems to be. They also have the new L model so you can compare the two! On Wednesday, September 4, 2024 at 6:58:57 AM UTC-7 Patrick Moore wr

Re: [RBW] Re: Ro-Deux-No build notes New Bike Day

>> busted << Hi Dan - no, I did not grease the binder bolt when I built up the bike. Rivendell's instructions even called that out - grease the binder bolt. I'll do that today and give it a go. (i'll probably try to replace the bolt, as i probably went beyond the elastic stretch of the bolt)

[RBW] Re: Shoes/sandals for wide feet

Some great recs and ideas here, thanks to everyone for sharing their Wide Shoe Resources! On Wednesday, September 4, 2024 at 10:32:32 AM UTC-4 frank.b...@gmail.com wrote: > I have the same problem and found that the Birkenstocks with the 'rugged" > sole work for me. Birks are super comfy and a

[RBW] Tech question: Rene Herse pulley-style brake yoke -- what am I doing wrong?

I'm posting this here because I am indeed a Rivendell owner, albeit this topic in particular isn't specific to Rivendell, and only "of interest" to this particular crowd :-) I have Rene Herse brakes -- a couple sets of the cantilever style, and a set of the center-pulls that I'm about to set-up

Re: [RBW] Re: Roaduno v.1

Coming along step by step: a few more pictures here, showing clearance with gravel king 38s https://flickr.com/photos/90785999@N06/albums/72177720319888300/ Edwin On Saturday, August 31, 2024 at 1:19:10 AM UTC-5 nlerner wrote: > Thanks for the comments, all. > > @shoji, I think there’s ample ro

[RBW] Re: Wheel-building Advice

My opinions, as an amateur wheelbuilder who must have built about 50 pairs of wheels over the past several decades: 1. With modern spokes, 32h rims & hubs will be more than sufficiently strong for loaded touring. I haven't built a wheel with more than 32 spokes since the last pair of t

Re: [RBW] Craigslist, etc 2024

50 cm Roadini frame $800 obo (mine!) https://newyork.craigslist.org/que/bik/d/brooklyn-rivendell-roadini-50cm-frame/7781731719.html On Wednesday, August 28, 2024 at 4:19:59 PM UTC-4 Chris Halasz wrote: > 60cm DTT Sam Hillborne $2350 > > > https://losangeles.craigslist.org/lac/bik/d/santa-monica-

Re: [RBW] Tech question: Rene Herse pulley-style brake yoke -- what am I doing wrong?

To confirm: yes, absolutely positively passing the cable all the way through so that it protrudes out the other side by the correct amount. I start with the cable all the way through the hole and much longer than needed. I then move the yoke as described in the instructions, cut the cable, and

Re: [RBW] Re: Wheel-building Advice

I use Wheelsmith spokes when I can find them and Sapim when I cannot. Lately I have been getting them from Peter White. I prefer 36 spoke patterns to 32 because the spoke patterns other than radial pull the rim together at the rim seam, probably more of a habit than a necessary practice at this poi

Re: [RBW] Re: Wheel-building Advice

I am still using the same green Park nipple tool that I started out with 46 years ago. Laing Conley On Wed, Sep 4, 2024 at 1:20 PM Laing Conley wrote: > I use Wheelsmith spokes when I can find them and Sapim when I cannot. > Lately I have been getting them from Peter White. I prefer 36 spoke >

Re: [RBW] A Different Kind of RR

If I ever go Wilding with Leah, I would proudly wear a powder blue tuxedo and be her prom date. In my office in Michigan I keep a Crust Florida Man fixie as well as my Rivendell Sam Hillborne. My assumption with that demographic is that I'd ride the Florida Man. That would go better with my

Re: [RBW] A Different Kind of RR

Bill should we grab Patch and make our own prom ride down the greenway? Maybe that would be enough to convince Leah to come to the Bay. 😂 Ben R On Wed, Sep 4, 2024 at 11:12 AM Bill Lindsay wrote: > If I ever go Wilding with Leah, I would proudly wear a powder blue tuxedo > and be her prom da

Re: [RBW] A Different Kind of RR

Bill! The pressure! You’ll be the more stylish one for sure! What do I have in my closet to go with powder blue?!? Ben, I gotta make it back to the Bay…too bad we didn’t know each other when I lived in Southern CA or in Vegas. Would have been an easy drive!On Sep 4, 2024, at 2:12 PM, Bill Lindsay

Re: [RBW] Tech question: Rene Herse pulley-style brake yoke -- what am I doing wrong?

Michael, You mentioned having several sets of RH brakes. Are you experiencing the same issue with all the yokes? Is it possible that the hole in the bolt in question is off by a tiny bit and isn’t allowing the assembly to draw up as far as it needs. Ray On Wednesday, September 4, 2024 at 10:3

Re: [RBW] Tech question: Rene Herse pulley-style brake yoke -- what am I doing wrong?

Hi... the same thing happened to me with those Rene Herse yokes on my most recent build . (Rivendell did the build for me.) The cable popped out of the front brake yoke after a couple of super short rides. I tried to put it back t

Re: [RBW] Re: Wheel-building Advice

I'll throw-in some "seconds" on things already said, here, and follow-up with some other info. As far as materials sourcing, I tend to go to the following: bikehubstore.com (they have more than just hubs) wheelbuildingparts.com prowheelbuilder.com wheelfanatyk.com I'll definitely concur with ot

[RBW] Re: Silver shifter surgery and corrosive metal welding

Thanks for sharing Eric, that would be galvanic corrosion... [image: GalvanicCorrosion.png] On Wednesday, September 4, 2024 at 11:58:20 AM UTC-4 eric...@gmail.com wrote: > *Before we begin I must admit that I should have documented the process > below in greater detail. I realize it would have

Re: [RBW] Tech question: Rene Herse pulley-style brake yoke -- what am I doing wrong?

Hi Michael, I don't have experience with the RH straddle hangers. Is the acorn nut bottoming out, and not permitting enough pinching of the brake cable? As a test, take a nut of the appropriate size and use that instead of the acorn nut. You might be able to get more pinch of the brake cable to

Re: [RBW] Tech question: Rene Herse pulley-style brake yoke -- what am I doing wrong?

Thanks for the confirmation on similar experience, JJ. Again, I love the brakes, except for the yokes. My feeling on it is that even if I'm doing something "wrong," if the part is that fiddly and prone to error, then I really don't want to mess with it. Something is wrong at another level and I

Re: [RBW] Tech question: Rene Herse pulley-style brake yoke -- what am I doing wrong?

To answer some of the other queries here -- Yes, I've tried with more than one iteration of the yoke, and get the same results. The cable is most definitely passing through the yoke assembly, through the bolt hole, and then through the lower part of the assembly. I've definitely followed all th

[RBW] Re: Silver shifter surgery and corrosive metal welding

To add to JohnS's response, in this specific case, brass, being the "more noble" of the metals (see Wiki on Galvanic Corrosion) is causing the degredation of the "less noble" of the metals. The more distant the metals are on the Galvanic Chart the more likely the reaction. So, for example the

Re: [RBW] Re: Wheel-building Advice

Tips just for fun… If you smile at them, some LBS have a loaner truing stand that they will let you take home and try. Still, let them do the final tweaks for your first batch. Be prepared to pull your first wheel apart at least twice. When you look through the valve hole, you should be able to

Re: [RBW] Craigslist, etc 2024

No affiliation with either of these: 55 cm Custom Road-ish Riv in CA: https://monterey.craigslist.org/bik/d/monterey-rivendell-custom-road-55cm/7763735306.html 60cm Green Cheviot in NC https://asheville.craigslist.org/bik/d/asheville-rivendell-cheviot-60cm/968048.html On Wednesday, Septem

Re: [RBW] Silver shifter surgery and corrosive metal welding

h. This got me thinking about my beloved Blue Lug brass crank caps on my riv silver cranks - especially living in the pacific northwest. Curious of ample grease and yearly teardown will prevent the galvanic corrosion. On Wednesday, September 4, 2024 at 1:29:48 PM UTC-7 Patrick Moore wrot

Re: [RBW] Silver shifter surgery and corrosive metal welding

A friend swore off the brass self extractors (White Industries, Blue Lug, Etc.) for exactly these same reasons. He’s been encouraging me to do the same for over a year now.I really should replace the two sets I have, even here in arid Southern California.P. W.~(917) 514-2207~On Sep 4, 2024, at 1:29

Re: [RBW] Re: Looking for a 59cm Clem

That's what I need; many thanks. On Wed, Sep 4, 2024 at 8:03 AM Ryan Frahm wrote: > Hi Patrick! bikeinsights.com has the geometry. I can’t link the geo chart > directly but you can look it up there! I can’t say if it is 100% accurate > but it seems to be. They also have the new L model so you ca

Re: [RBW] Silver shifter surgery and corrosive metal welding

@Patrick, perhaps these kind of products... https://www.cytech.training/uploaded_files/study_documents/7.%20Lubricants%20and%20Greases.pdf ...suggesting a copper-based grease to be used between dissimilar metals. This seems like a prevention of the symptom (corrosion) rather than the cause (us

Re: [RBW] Silver shifter surgery and corrosive metal welding

Thanks for the write-up Eric. I'll give my brass parts a once over a couple times a year after reading this. Did you grease your ferrule exteriors before installing? I typically give any brass part a liberal greasing before installing, which in theory should help prevent, or at least slow galvanic

Re: [RBW] A Different Kind of RR

Here I am, reading the ride description: *"-Dress appropriately for mid-70s to mid-60s..."* OK! bell-bottoms, paisley cowboy shirt, fringe, headband *"... temperatures"* Oh, never mind. BL in EC On Wednesday, September 4, 2024 at 2:35:53 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote: > Ok, ok LOOK

Re: [RBW] Tech question: Rene Herse pulley-style brake yoke -- what am I doing wrong?

You're welcome, Michael. I can't claim to have anything close to your experience setting up brakes, but I love cantis and I can figure my way around them. What's scary about the RH yoke is that it very well could have been a catastrophic failure. I'm grateful it happened during a very gentle sh

Re: [RBW] Silver shifter surgery and corrosive metal welding

Hey eric, Yeah ive had similar issues. Had a mildly stuck cable end in a silver 2, think i was able to get it out with a needle and small hammer, basically punched it out. Noticed the brass ferrule corrosion too. I’m still working through a stash of them, but ive also been getting over my bra

Re: [RBW] Re: Ro-Deux-No build notes New Bike Day

Just to close the loop, when I said in my Original Post that I disassembled 100% of the stuff that was assembled, the purpose of that step was to grease everything that needs grease, including the seat post bolt. The most important place for grease is between the head of the bolt and the lug i

Re: [RBW] Tech question: Rene Herse pulley-style brake yoke -- what am I doing wrong?

On Wednesday, September 4, 2024 at 2:32:06 PM UTC-4 J J wrote: It's either defective or plain awful design and manufacturing. It's certainly not the latter as mine work fantastically. And considering how simple the device is it's hard to see what could be defective. The hole? The nut? The en

Re: [RBW] A Different Kind of RR

Ben, I've got a dress I can wear for a Greenway Prom. If Bill gets his blue suit ready maybe that will be the critical mass we need to get Leah back out to CA. But it needs to cool down because right now it is too hot for the amount of sparkles I plan to wear. On Wednesday, September 4, 2024 a

[RBW] Re: FS: Pair of Antelope Hill tires 700x55 in unopened packages

Both tires are sold. Tom On Saturday, August 31, 2024 at 8:12:55 AM UTC-4 Tom wrote: > These are the standard tan casing variety, and were meant for a build that > never materialized. They sell new for $78ea on Rene Hearse. Will sell > each for $60, or both for $100, shipped. More info here

Re: [RBW] A Different Kind of RR

Hold up hold up, message me if this is happening in the Bay Area, my kid and I will attend if possible!On Sep 4, 2024, at 16:37, Sarah Carlson wrote:Ben, I've got a dress I can wear for a Greenway Prom. If Bill gets his blue suit ready maybe that will be the critical mass we need to get Leah back

[RBW] Re: FS: Suntour Bar Cons, Nitto Noodle 46cm HT, Shimano Dura-Ace 10 Speed Shifters, etc.

The seatpost is sold. *Suntour 7 Speed Bar Cons with compatible Suntour XCE Front & Rear Derailleurs. Really nice condition with seemingly little use. - $75 *Nitto Noodle 46cm HT. Light use. - $75 *Shimano Dura-Ace ST-7800 10 Speed Shifters. Work great & come with a few hood options. The pink

Re: [RBW] Silver shifter surgery and corrosive metal welding

citing another instance of brass ferrule stuck in a deore RD, this time in NYC (where summers and winters can both be humid) On Wednesday, September 4, 2024 at 6:41:25 PM UTC-4 Stephen wrote: > > Hey eric, > > Yeah ive had similar issues. Had a mildly stuck cable end in a silver 2, > think i wa

Re: [RBW] A Different Kind of RR

Now see I like how this is turning into a massive crowd insisting Leah come visit us in California. Come ride, Leah! On Wednesday, September 4, 2024 at 5:07:28 PM UTC-7 Lucky wrote: > Hold up hold up, message me if this is happening in the Bay Area, my kid > and I will attend if possible! > >