[RBW] Re: Who says Rivendells have to be heavy?

2009-05-10 Thread nick . bike . bull
I love my Rambouillet, and I've never been unhappy with it because of its weight, but it is hardly a lightweight at 24-1/2 pounds for the bike itself (i.e., the basic bike with no add-ons like water bottles, luggage, fenders etc.) Similarly equipped, my Gunnar Sport with S&S couplers weighs about

[RBW] Re: Who says Rivendells have to be heavy?

2009-05-10 Thread James Warren
Just gotta share my Ram's weight data. First complete bike details: 64 cm frame Dura Ace Hub/Open Pro Rims with 32 Wheelsmith spokes F and R Ritchey Logic Triple Crank Jack Brown Green tires Brooks Ti rail saddle Nitto Frog seatpost (two-bolt) Technomic Deluxe Stem and Nitto Noodle Bar basic Tang

[RBW] Re: Who says Rivendells have to be heavy?

2009-05-10 Thread Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery
All my bikes eventually weigh at least 40 pounds. I try to start out reasonably light, but then I add this or that, and soon any notions of light weight fly out the window. On May 8, 5:46 pm, PATRICK MOORE wrote: > Just weighedem, as I was cleaning them (for a change -- I *do* keep the > drivetr

[RBW] Re: Who says Rivendells have to be heavy?

2009-05-10 Thread Tim McNamara
On May 10, 2009, at 10:02 AM, James Warren wrote: > Just gotta share my Ram's weight data. First complete bike details: > > 64 cm frame > Dura Ace Hub/Open Pro Rims with 32 Wheelsmith spokes F and R > Ritchey Logic Triple Crank > Jack Brown Green tires > Brooks Ti rail saddle > Nitto Frog seatpo

[RBW] 400k on Hilsen

2009-05-10 Thread Mike
Yesterday I did my first 400k. Jeez, was that tough. The last 25 miles were totally psychedelic. My Hilsen performed well, no mechanicals. The Jack Browns also continue to perform well (no flats). There was also a Rivendell custom, an Atlantis and a Saluki on the ride. Anyway, here's a photo set i

[RBW] Re: 400k on Hilsen

2009-05-10 Thread rcnute
Well done! I did a measly fifty yesterday (though it included Cougar Mountain, probably the toughest climb right around Seattle) on the Saluki and felt it. Got my first sunburn of the year too. On May 10, 10:56 am, Mike wrote: > Yesterday I did my first 400k. Jeez, was that tough. The last 25

[RBW] Re: Who says Rivendells have to be heavy?

2009-05-10 Thread James Dinneen
If you do decide to experiment with a single speed on the trek, you might want to start with a single speed, instead of a fixed gear. I found that it the downside of the hills that were killers. You either brake and go slow or you spin like a mad man.  Jim D. Massachusetts --- On Sun, 5/10/09,

[RBW] Re: 400k on Hilsen

2009-05-10 Thread Esteban
Loved the slide show - looks like a beautiful day for some victorious suffering! On May 10, 11:04 am, rcnute wrote: > Well done!  I did a measly fifty yesterday (though it included Cougar > Mountain, probably the toughest climb right around Seattle) on the > Saluki and felt it.  Got my first sun

[RBW] Re: 400k on Hilsen

2009-05-10 Thread David Estes
That's some toughness there, Mike! Brevet riders always amaze me as I'm usually wiped at 30 miles! You're awesome!!! DE On Sun, May 10, 2009 at 10:56 AM, Mike wrote: > > Yesterday I did my first 400k. Jeez, was that tough. The last 25 miles > were totally psychedelic. My Hilsen performed well

[RBW] Re: Who says Rivendells have to be heavy?

2009-05-10 Thread James Warren
Exactly. Tim's bike would give up a lot of good stuff just to be a couple of pounds lighter. Not worth it. -Original Message- >From: Tim McNamara >Sent: May 10, 2009 8:15 AM > > >I could readily get my 60 cm 1996 All-Rounder under 25 lbs and >probably under 23, but the fenders, genera

[RBW] Re: Who says Rivendells have to be heavy?

2009-05-10 Thread PATRICK MOORE
"A nice bike is a nice bike, but a * light* nice bike is a *very* nice bike." Amen. (Bet my 2007 Redline Monocog 29er, with fenders, 44 mm rims and 60 mm Big Apples -- 2 lb each!!!, discs, drops, Nelson, and VO bag support, weighs more than any of y'alls measly road rigs. It has a Honka Hoota,

[RBW] Re: Who says Rivendells have to be heavy?

2009-05-10 Thread nick . bike . bull
Nokian Extreme 296's in the winter. Man are those things hard to spin up! But they sure make you feel confident in the icy stuff. On May 10, 3:03 pm, PATRICK MOORE wrote: > "A nice bike is a nice bike, but a * light* nice bike is a *very* nice bike." > > Amen. > >  (Bet my 2007 Redline Monocog

[RBW] Re: Who says Rivendells have to be heavy?

2009-05-10 Thread nick . bike . bull
On May 10, 1:15 pm, James Dinneen wrote: > If you do decide to experiment with a single speed on the trek, you might > want to start with a single speed, instead of a fixed gear. I found that it > the downside of the hills that were killers. You either brake and go slow or > you spin like a ma

[RBW] Re: Who says Rivendells have to be heavy?

2009-05-10 Thread Tim McNamara
On May 10, 2009, at 2:54 PM, James Warren wrote: > -Original Message- >> From: Tim McNamara >> Sent: May 10, 2009 8:15 AM >> >> >> I could readily get my 60 cm 1996 All-Rounder under 25 lbs and >> probably under 23, but the fenders, generator lighting, front rack >> and handlebar bag wo

[RBW] Re: 400k on Hilsen

2009-05-10 Thread PATRICK MOORE
All of you riders who do double centuries and brevets (on heavy Rivs): how old are you? Patrick "seeking for any excuse" More --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this

[RBW] Re: 400k on Hilsen

2009-05-10 Thread Randy Graves
65 PATRICK MOORE wrote: > All of you riders who do double centuries and brevets (on heavy Rivs): > how old are you? > > Patrick "seeking for any excuse" More > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "R

[RBW] Re: 400k on Hilsen

2009-05-10 Thread David Faller
Although I don't do them, my buddy does DC's. He just did his first a few months ago, and he's about to do his third. We're both 51! Dave - Original Message - From: PATRICK MOORE To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, May 10, 2009 2:36 PM Subject: [RBW] Re: 400

[RBW] Re: 400k on Hilsen

2009-05-10 Thread Eric Norris
I've done about 150 double centuries--I will be riding my 26th Davis Double next weekend. I'm 49. --Eric campyonly...@me.com www.campyonly.com www.wheelsnorth.org On May 10, 2009, at 2:36 PM, PATRICK MOORE wrote: > All of you riders who do double centuries and brevets (on heavy > Rivs): ho

[RBW] Re: 400k on Hilsen

2009-05-10 Thread Ralph Rognstad Jr.
56 PATRICK MOORE wrote: > All of you riders who do double centuries and brevets (on heavy Rivs): > how old are you? > > Patrick "seeking for any excuse" More > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RB

[RBW] Re: 400k on Hilsen

2009-05-10 Thread Joe Bartoe
Define "heavy Riv". I do doubles and brevets on mine. I tend to use a minimalist approach, using a Camelback that has cords to tie stuff down if I need to lash clothes and stuff to it. On longer rides, I'll also use a banana bag with toe straps lace through those lash points on the top of the

[RBW] Re: Who says Rivendells have to be heavy?

2009-05-10 Thread Bill M.
On May 10, 2:02 pm, Tim McNamara wrote: > I'd guess I could take at least 5 pounds off by just unbolting stuff,   > but then the bike loses a lot of it's utility- as well as much of its   > difference from my other bikes.  The point of having multiple bikes   > IMHO is to have *different* bikes

[RBW] Re: 400k on Hilsen

2009-05-10 Thread BPustow
A young and handsome 61. In a message dated 5/10/2009 5:36:53 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, bertin...@gmail.com writes: All of you riders who do double centuries and brevets (on heavy Rivs): how old are you? Patrick "seeking for any excuse" More **Recession-proof vacation i

[RBW] Re: 400k on Hilsen

2009-05-10 Thread Gino Zahnd
I've ridden some brevets and centuries on my (relatively) lightweight Saluki. No doubles though. I'll be 35 in June. Bike weight: 24.5lbs w/fenders, front rack and Schmidt hub/light. Here's a photo, minus the hub/light: http://www.flickr.com/photos/gzahnd/3352703418/sizes/l/ I could knock off

[RBW] FS: Brooks B17 N (Narrow)

2009-05-10 Thread Eric Norris
Offered for your consideration is a Brooks B17 N, the narrower version of the B17. No hiding the fact that it's been used, but it's a Brooks, and it has tons of miles left in it. Wallingford Bike sells the B17 N for $111. This used saddle is yours for $50 *with shipping* in the CONUS. Re

[RBW] Re: 400k on Hilsen

2009-05-10 Thread Lynne Fitz
(for the record, I did not do that particular ride. I have done others ) I'm 53. My riding buddy who did the ride in just over 21 hours is, oh, 48. She rides a custom Sweetpea which weighs a ton. More than my fully-loaded Bleriot. Two other women on the ride, at least one in her 50's. Four wo

[RBW] Re: 400k on Hilsen

2009-05-10 Thread Esteban
I'm 35, and have ridden centuries and want to start riding some brevets next season. I know on my regular road route, the guys passing me on their cervelos are usually older than my parents. With cycling, age doesn't seem to matter much...unless its racing. On May 10, 4:40 pm, Lynne Fitz wrote

[RBW] Re: 400k on Hilsen

2009-05-10 Thread PATRICK MOORE
Thanks for the responses. I'm 54, and I guess I have no excuse. Patrick "but riding fixed gives you an advantage of a factor of 10" Moore --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To p

[RBW] Re: RBW group for Minnesota

2009-05-10 Thread Rick
Headed that way at the end of the month. Where should one go when in Hennepin County? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@g

[RBW] Another 200k On an Atlantis

2009-05-10 Thread Larry Powers
Last week Jim Thill posted that he finally completed a 200k on his Atlantis. First congrats to Jim on that. About the same time I read the post my LBS called and said the Phil Wood bottom bracket On my Rambouillet was toast and would need to be sent out, turn around time 2 weeks. There was o

[RBW] Re: Who says Rivendells have to be heavy?

2009-05-10 Thread CycloFiend
on 5/10/09 1:48 PM, nick.bike.b...@gmail.com replied to: > > what James Dinneen wrote: >> If you do decide to experiment with a single speed on the trek, you might >> want to start with a single speed, instead of a fixed gear. I found that it >> the downside of the hills that were killers. You e

[RBW] Re: 400k on Hilsen

2009-05-10 Thread Mike
For a randonneur I'm on the younger side--42. There were times when I was riding alone but for the most part I kept riding with various folks that seemed to range in age from the late 20s to the... oh I'll say mid to late 50s. The older guys were strong as hell. I think there's a lot to say for ex

[RBW] Re: 400k on Hilsen

2009-05-10 Thread BPustow
It's not just cycling. The same applies to ultra running (50k, 50 miles, 100miles). Many of the competitors are the same ages listed here. In a message dated 5/10/2009 8:38:07 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, proto...@gmail.com writes: With cycling, age doesn't seem to matter much...unless its

[RBW] Re: RBW group for Minnesota

2009-05-10 Thread Bill Connell
On Sun, May 10, 2009 at 8:20 PM, Rick wrote: > > Headed that way at the end of the month.  Where should one go when in > Hennepin County? For riding around, the best thing to do is to stop at a fine local bike shop (Hiawatha Cyclery, One on One, Freewheel Bikes, among others) and pick up a Twin

[RBW] Re: Who says Rivendells have to be heavy?

2009-05-10 Thread nick . bike . bull
OK, where'd that fixie wheel go? And I wonder if one of the cogs off my '79 Shimano 600 cassette will work? On May 10, 8:41 pm, CycloFiend wrote: > on 5/10/09 1:48 PM, nick.bike.b...@gmail.com replied to: > > > > > what James Dinneen wrote: > >> If you do decide to experiment with a single spe

[RBW] Re: Rough Riders ride May 17 in L.A.

2009-05-10 Thread Aaron Thomas
I went on a reconnaissance ride in the Santa Monica mountains today, covering some of the trails that could conceivably comprise the Rough Riders ride, and I'd have to say that Dustin is right on this one. I put some 35mm Paselas on my Romulus, which were the widest I had on hand. I was able to d

[RBW] WWYD?

2009-05-10 Thread Tim McNamara
Why, he'd go back to riding his bike. There's a note from Rick Smith on the Yehuda Moon site that Yehuda rolls again starting June 17 with Joe King comics on Sunday! --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Group

[RBW] Re: Rough Riders ride May 17 in L.A.

2009-05-10 Thread David Estes
Aaron, awesome that you got out there!!! I hope we can do a Riv ride this fall up there, so keep on scouting! Funny how Dustin immediately picked up on the implications of the ride, based on the choice of bike. Hey, hope you can make it out here Saturday, a Romulus w/ Paselas will be right at ho

[RBW] Re: 400k on Hilsen

2009-05-10 Thread benzzoy
On May 10, 6:54 pm, Mike wrote: > [...] My > time for the event was 12hrs 44mins which qualified me for R70 honors > with 10 minutes to spare which was my goal. One guy, on a recumbent, > finished in just under 14hrs! You did 400 km (250 miles) in 12 hrs 44 mins? That's an average speed of 19.5

[RBW] Re: 400k on Hilsen

2009-05-10 Thread Gino Zahnd
Yeah, no doubt, Mike. You're a freaking mutant! On Sun, May 10, 2009 at 9:32 PM, benzzoy wrote: > > > You did 400 km (250 miles) in 12 hrs 44 mins?  That's an average speed > of 19.5 mph.  That's equivalent to a 5-hour century, but maintaining > the same rate over 250 miles. > > My hats off to

[RBW] Re: RBW group for Minnesota

2009-05-10 Thread Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery
Hennepin County is mostly urban, but almost all great for cycling. The top spots to go would be Minnehaha Parkway (including Minnehaha Falls), the Minneapolis Chain of Lakes, Fort Snelling, Midtown Greenway and/or Cedar Lake Trail out to Hopkins (and beyond that to Lake Minnetonka), and along both

[RBW] Re: 400k on Hilsen

2009-05-10 Thread David Estes
Wow, way to put it in perspective! On Sun, May 10, 2009 at 9:32 PM, benzzoy wrote: > > On May 10, 6:54 pm, Mike wrote: > > [...] My > > time for the event was 12hrs 44mins which qualified me for R70 honors > > with 10 minutes to spare which was my goal. One guy, on a recumbent, > > finished in

[RBW] Re: 400k on Hilsen

2009-05-10 Thread Chicken Sandwich
38 On Sun, May 10, 2009 at 4:36 PM, PATRICK MOORE wrote: > All of you riders who do double centuries and brevets (on heavy Rivs): how > old are you? > > Patrick "seeking for any excuse" More --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscrib

[RBW] Re: 400k on Hilsen

2009-05-10 Thread Chicken Sandwich
Yea, really! That's a very strong ride. My best time for a 400K is 18 hours. On Sun, May 10, 2009 at 11:32 PM, benzzoy wrote: > > On May 10, 6:54 pm, Mike wrote: >> [...] My >> time for the event was 12hrs 44mins which qualified me for R70 honors >> with 10 minutes to spare which was my goal.

[RBW] Re: Rough Riders ride May 17 in L.A.

2009-05-10 Thread Dustin Sharp
Just swapped out the Jack Browns for some ³700x40² Schwalbe Marathon Supremes for the Rough Riders Ride this Wednesday here in SD, and for the Riv ride up in Redlands this Sat. I wish they measured a true 40mm as they are labeled, but at 37-38ish, they should at least have a bit more cush than the

[RBW] Re: 400k on Hilsen

2009-05-10 Thread Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery
When I signed in for a 200k last weekend, I noted that the 40 people who signed in ahead of me were in general 15-30 years older (I'm 32). Of the people who finished within the time limit, I was among the last. The guy who finished a few minutes after me was about a year younger than me, and may h

[RBW] Re: May 16 Rivendell Ride

2009-05-10 Thread Harry
I am going have to figure out a way to get down there for one of these rides. On May 9, 5:13 pm, David Estes wrote: > Just pre-road the second pass over the Pisgaw Peak > saddle:http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/sets/72157617914264630/ > > Weather is projected to be very similar to toda

[RBW] Re: Rough Riders ride May 17 in L.A.

2009-05-10 Thread David Estes
You nailed it on the head: what do you want your hands/wrists to feel like. Knobbies are completely unnecessary, but some cush is nice! 37mm Supremes will be perfect! Hope nobody is getting scared off... really, this is a Rivendell ride on fire roads. Nothing agro-downhill-cowabunga-dude about

[RBW] Re: May 16 Rivendell Ride

2009-05-10 Thread David Estes
Yes you do! On Sun, May 10, 2009 at 11:18 PM, Harry wrote: > > I am going have to figure out a way to get down there for one of these > rides. > > On May 9, 5:13 pm, David Estes wrote: > > Just pre-road the second pass over the Pisgaw Peak saddle: > http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/set