I've been commuting by my bike to my work with varying frequency over the past
30 years.
For myself, and as a driver, I go by the philosophy that cars are not my
friends when I'm bicycling.
I choose routes that expose me to the least amount of traffic.
When I commute by car I realize how other
No one said that their sins are equal; I agree that motorists take their
responsibilities far, far too lightly, They just said that even motorists
have rights and that even cyclists have responsibilities.
On Sun, Nov 18, 2012 at 5:33 AM, Matthew J wrote:
> Having difficulty conceptually with all
Having difficulty conceptually with all forms of rude driving behavior being
equal.
Cyclists can and do often annoy. They rarely kill or maim.
Bus drivers may be reported and in Chicago at least fired for reckless
behavior.
While auto casualties overall have declined, this is mainly because
I drive and bike equally. I also bus and train a bit. The worst specimens of
all those who take a form of transit are those who set no a dichotomy (or
quadchotomy?) of exclusivity. I loathe terrible drivers and cyclists equally.
Buses terrify me with their blatant disregard for the law here in
Golly, I drive a car, does this make me a 'cager'?
I suspect most of us are guilty of this car thing.
Us vs them doesn't work so well when many of us are both us and them.
-JimD
On Nov 17, 2012, at 8:58 AM, Marc Irwin wrote:
> Every thing I have heard on this thread makes perfect sense, but h
This is excessively cynical. It is not at all irrelevant for a cyclist to
obey the law where appropriate and where not to do what ever keeps him safe
-- which means, to ride predictably and reasonably as part of traffic where
this is possible.
I've had motorists tell me in effect to get off the ro
Weird. In PA we have to do all from the left too. Did not know that.
-J in PHL
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Every thing I have heard on this thread makes perfect sense, but here in
Michigan the law still requires the left hand signals exclusively. It's
not as if anybody enforces it, we use whatever will be visible (maybe
flares?). In the final analysis, the legality, visibility and usefulness
are i
Those signals were designed for car drivers to use, since you can only
effectively signal with the arm that is easy to stick out of the window.
Tim
On Nov 16, 2012, at 10:30 AM, Eric Norris wrote:
> My point exactly. Pointing your arm *up* to mean *right* is not intuitive.
> "Up-means-right"
My point exactly. Pointing your arm *up* to mean *right* is not intuitive.
"Up-means-right" is a code that has to be learned. Per Steve's email, you have
a one-in-four chance of getting your message across by pointing up.
If you want to turn *right*, tell the cars behind you by pointing *right*,
On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 7:01 AM, Steve Palincsar wrote:
> On Wed, 2012-11-14 at 23:24 -0700, Bertin753 wrote:
>> Didn't the left arm/right turn signal originate with motor cars, where
>> you can't stick your right hand out of the right window when you are
>> sitting in the left seat? I've not cond
I've used the same Edeluxe on three bikes now. First two bikes had racks
with mounts to the right. The new Clockwork is set to use Tubus Duos so I
mounted it at the fork crown which is the mandatory mount point in Germany:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/57976152@N07/8176882194/
There may be a
I use both signals, depending on the situation. For example, my commute home
from work features a right hand turn that many cars execute from the middle
lane (inappropriately), as well as the right lane in which I am happily riding
along. I signal the right turn with my left arm in this case b
On Thu, 2012-11-15 at 05:32 -0800, Ron Mc wrote:
> at the stem, bell takes priority over the light, because you need to
> operate a bell with your left hand, so you can brake with your right
> hand.
My front brake is on the left, as is typical in the USA. Also, I have
my bell set up on the stem
at the stem, bell takes priority over the light, because you need to
operate a bell with your left hand, so you can brake with your right hand.
As far as mounting the light lower on racks or lugs, you have to make sure
you can see the right-curb near your tire, but logically, on the left side
On Wed, 2012-11-14 at 21:35 -0800, Brian Hanson wrote:
>
> This also begs the question of what side to mount a headlight and
> taillight on your bike, if not in the center line...
With a headlight like the Edelux it makes absolutely no difference
whatsoever. The beam fills the entire lane no ma
On Wed, 2012-11-14 at 23:24 -0700, Bertin753 wrote:
> Didn't the left arm/right turn signal originate with motor cars, where
> you can't stick your right hand out of the right window when you are
> sitting in the left seat? I've not conducted a rigorous experiment,
> but it seems to me that any dri
Didn't the left arm/right turn signal originate with motor cars, where you
can't stick your right hand out of the right window when you are sitting in the
left seat? I've not conducted a rigorous experiment, but it seems to me that
any driver ought to be able to see a cyclist's right arm extende
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