This is excessively cynical. It is not at all irrelevant for a cyclist to obey the law where appropriate and where not to do what ever keeps him safe -- which means, to ride predictably and reasonably as part of traffic where this is possible.
I've had motorists tell me in effect to get off the road, but when I explain to them that I am under law part of traffic, and that I expect them as well as myself to use the public thoroughfares reasonably and courteously, they usually agree. And I am by no means a shrinking violet when it comes to taking my rights on the road, or to letting motorists know when they are wrong. What does make me angry (and I am not accusing Marc of doing this) is stupid cyclists, whether clueless or arrogant urban hipsters or clueless or arrogant roadies, needlessly inconveniencing motorists -- I've spoken up to such cyclists just as I have done to motorists. OK. Now let's talk about helmets. On Sat, Nov 17, 2012 at 9:58 AM, Marc Irwin <irwin7...@gmail.com> wrote: > Every thing I have heard on this thread makes perfect sense, but here in > Michigan the law still requires the left hand signals exclusively. It's > not as if anybody enforces it, we use whatever will be visible (maybe > flares?). In the final analysis, the legality, visibility and usefulness > are irrelevant, the only thing the the cagers remember is the middle finger. > > Marc > > On Friday, November 16, 2012 12:11:03 PM UTC-5, Tim McNamara wrote: >> >> Those signals were designed for car drivers to use, since you can only >> effectively signal with the arm that is easy to stick out of the window. >> >> Tim >> >> >> On Nov 16, 2012, at 10:30 AM, Eric Norris <campyo...@me.com> wrote: >> >> > My point exactly. Pointing your arm *up* to mean *right* is not >> intuitive. "Up-means-right" is a code that has to be learned. Per Steve's >> email, you have a one-in-four chance of getting your message across by >> pointing up. >> > >> > If you want to turn *right*, tell the cars behind you by pointing >> *right*, not up. >> > >> > --Eric N >> > www.CampyOnly.com >> > CampyOnlyGuy.blogspot.com >> > Twitter: @CampyOnlyGuy >> > >> >> >> >> Yeah. I was surprised (sort of) and appalled (a little) when I read >> >> fewer than 25% of drivers taking their written license exam knew that >> >> the traditional bent left arm pointing up meant a right turn.... >> >> >> >> Steve, E.L. MI. >> > >> > -- >> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >> > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.**com. >> > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bun...@** >> googlegroups.com. >> > For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/** >> group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en<http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en>. >> >> > >> > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/SAuU6glSo40J. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > -- ------------------------- Patrick Moore, Albuquerque, NM, USA For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW http://resumespecialties.com/index.html ------------------------- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.