Re: [RBW] Re: The way I design a build, and the first chapter

2024-12-03 Thread brendonoid
*Jason Fuller:* *Crust makes some really light-for-their-width options but I've seen too many crack at the eyelets for me to buy them.* Ah, you just saved me a lot of money. Thanks. Well not really because Quills cost a lot more but you know what I mean... -- You received this message because yo

Re: [RBW] Re: The way I design a build, and the first chapter

2024-12-03 Thread Richard Rose
Interesting. I did not think the quill could take a 55. But even that is a far cry from my 2.6” tires.Regarding the dynamo - I got a nice deal on the wheels & envisioned some possible nighttime adventures in addition to standard MTB duties. So far it’s been exclusively MTB - nothing at night.Sent f

Re: [RBW] Re: The way I design a build, and the first chapter

2024-12-03 Thread Richard Rose
I almost forgot. The wheelset I kind of fell into (Cliffhanger’s) came with a Son dynamo hub. I still do not own a dynamo powered light two years on. I think it’s a relative boat anchor? So yeah, an alternate wheelset might make a difference I would notice. Lastly there is the Silver double crank v

Re: [RBW] Re: The way I design a build, and the first chapter

2024-12-03 Thread Bill Lindsay
It sounds to me like you have a good handle on the trade-offs. Good luck if you decide to do something BL in EC On Tuesday, December 3, 2024 at 10:53:08 AM UTC-8 Richard Rose wrote: > Fair points. FYI, the Susie is (I think?) 8 ounces lighter. If I was truly > concerned I could shed the B17 &

Re: [RBW] Re: The way I design a build, and the first chapter

2024-12-03 Thread Richard Rose
Fair points. FYI, the Susie is (I think?) 8 ounces lighter. If I was truly concerned I could shed the B17 & steel Albacore handlebar for instant weight loss, but I love both.Sent from my iPhoneOn Dec 3, 2024, at 12:29 PM, Bill Lindsay wrote:A gram-shaving Gus build sounds to me like a Susie build

Re: [RBW] Re: The way I design a build, and the first chapter

2024-12-03 Thread Bill Lindsay
A gram-shaving Gus build sounds to me like a Susie build ;-). Rim-brake rim options for wide tires are indeed slim. I've heard of an Alex DX-32 which may be ~75g lighter than a Cliffhanger. In my stable, when the tires get that wide, that's where we switch over to disc brakes, which opens up

Re: [RBW] Re: The way I design a build, and the first chapter

2024-12-03 Thread Richard Rose
Thanks for that. I love every single thing about my Gus & it’s build - except its weight. It’s a heavy beast & it only bothers me going uphill on singletrack. When I built it up from bare frame I paid no attention to weight. I even (foolishly?) sold a Cane Creek ee wings Ti crankset to fund the fra

Re: [RBW] Re: The way I design a build, and the first chapter

2024-12-02 Thread Armand Kizirian
Sure, feels a bit snappier off the line and surprisingly fast for an upright bike (nice tires with light wheels mostly help here). If you get really active with the bike, go for a spirited sprint, or chuck it in some turns at an aggressive speed, the weight shift does feel more noticeable. It's

Re: [RBW] Re: The way I design a build, and the first chapter

2024-12-02 Thread Richard Rose
Very fascinating stuff. Two questions; how much did the 4+ pound weight loss cost & how does it feel? Sent from my iPhoneOn Dec 2, 2024, at 7:06 PM, Armand Kizirian wrote:Whoops! Good catch. From what's identified on that list, the correct total is 1938g / 4.27lbs. I feel silly after all that wei

Re: [RBW] Re: The way I design a build, and the first chapter

2024-11-30 Thread Ted Durant
On Saturday, November 30, 2024 at 10:34:03 AM UTC-6 John Dewey wrote: Gram counting is primarily an intellectual exercise is it not? I don't think so. In some sense it's purely a physical exercise, removing mass from the bike. Or, as Bill has noted, it can be a financial exercise, calculating

Re: [RBW] Re: The way I design a build, and the first chapter

2024-11-30 Thread John Dewey
Gram counting is primarily an intellectual exercise is it not? For sure, light wheels are sublime if you can get away with it. I gave up on sew-ups long ago but I’ll never forget my first ride on those I built for a Torpado race bike I owned while living on Nantucket. Transformative, oh my! I’m not

Re: [RBW] Re: The way I design a build, and the first chapter

2024-11-30 Thread Ted Durant
Fun thread. Reminds me of "It's All About The Bike" by Robert Penn. I'm also a spreadsheet jockey (I recently said to a retired-actuary-biking friend, "If it can't be done in a spreadsheet, it's not worth doing."), and I have a column for component weights, but I haven't used that column in a l

Re: [RBW] Re: The way I design a build, and the first chapter

2024-11-29 Thread brendonoid
I look forward to the next part Bill, Thanks. My usual method is throw my parts bin at a frame and see what sticks then open 50+tabs in my browser and see what arrives in the mail a month later. This method seems more organised. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Go

Re: [RBW] Re: The way I design a build, and the first chapter

2024-11-29 Thread Patrick Moore
Sheesh: 12-21. I sometimes swapped in a 13-23. On Fri, Nov 29, 2024 at 4:23 PM Patrick Moore wrote: > … 12-19 Am Classic 10 spee > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails fr

Re: [RBW] Re: The way I design a build, and the first chapter

2024-11-29 Thread Patrick Moore
Xpedo. On Fri, Nov 29, 2024 at 4:23 PM Patrick Moore wrote: > … Xpedia ti-spindle 2-sided SPD-type pedals > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email t

Re: [RBW] Re: The way I design a build, and the first chapter

2024-11-29 Thread Patrick Moore
Forgot to add that the Curt frameset, 58 c-c with fork with long steerer and 2003 Ultegra headset weighed a surprisingly heavy 7 lb. On Fri, Nov 29, 2024 at 4:23 PM Patrick Moore wrote: > … the Curt came in at 19 lb even with 1X10 (TA Pro 5 Vis 48 pulling 12-19 > Am Classic 10 speed with retrofr

Re: [RBW] Re: The way I design a build, and the first chapter

2024-11-29 Thread Patrick Moore
Bill: pedals: if you wan them, I’ll send you (no cost except patience) my hitherto hoarded Xpedia ti-spindle 2-sided SPD-type pedals at IIRC 260 grams, 180 lb weight limit. I’m well under but still have qualms about torquing a 76” gear uphill with them. (My lovely DA SPDs weigh 100 grams more.) No